Can you believe that deluded eurofags actually believe that this picture displays their countries as a better place to live? Oh my God look how progressive we are, we let our prisoners read books isn't it awesome! Whole point of prison is to reeducate criminals, not make them worse, amirite? Imagine if tomorrow peace truck kills 10 people in Norway. 20, this is how many years Muslim terrorist is going to spend in prison, and he will certainly enjoy it. He will read Quran, enjoy halal food and praise Allah. Meanwhile in America he would get life sentence or end up in gas camera, and that's exactly what criminals deserve.
Can you believe that deluded eurofags actually believe that this picture displays their countries as a better place to...
russians are cute when they are angry
Kill yourself, Vlad
kys ivan
You can read in US prisons too. And I think legally they must give you a Quran too (due to freedom of religion they cant refuse you the Quran in fact lot of guys convert to Islam in prison)
ahha klol xd
T. Future criminals
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whats a gas camera
Good thread dimitri
Norwegians have a much lower Recidivism rate than Americans though, so it must be working.
Keep living, Nigel ;)
Because they are white that is the only reason
I will, I guess?
Are you sure?
shit posts, didn't guess my name good post and also actually knows my real name
Why do Russians understand that certain peoples just can't play nice like the rest of us better than europoors?
>This flag
>This post
How is Scandi prison even prison? They're all shut-in autists anyways.
I am, you muhammad
Fuck off chink
They top eastern europe that is even more white
He looks terrible now, very gaunt. He was complaining about wanting to kill himself from the isolation not long ago too. It's not like he hasn't suffered.
Poor guy, they probably haven't even given him any children to murder. How barbaric.
yeah that poor guy only got a playstation 2 like holy shit
I disagree with that picture. I don't see why we should rehabilitate someone who did a disgraceful crime. They should be punished. I literally don't buy the muh civilised meme.
>we are better than them so we shouldnt get revenge
How come we didn't follow this advice in WW2? Face it when we're comfortable we change our values.
honestly I'd be fine with decent prisons (not THAT decent) for victimless and some white collar crimes but murderers and shit don't deserve anything short of hell
let them suffer
an alive person is more useful to a state than a dead person
Hmmm, I agree with rehabilitating minor crimes. But people like brevik? No. He will never be useful.
You don't know that desu. He is pretty far gone, but you never know. With death penalties there is also the fact that, occasionally, innocent people will be put to death. I also think that focusing too much on punishment encourages spite in the general population, which I'm not a fan of.
Don't worry comrade, while Euros sit around wanking over how progressive they are we'll be colonizing the galaxy.
Yeah they should let him out soon, he might get depressed in there which would be awful.
That's because europeens focus on rehabilitation. US prisons sometimes have programs that can make criminals better people but it's mostly about during your time for your crime
>USA prisons
get fucked in the ass by a horde of niggers
>Norwegian prison
play vidya game and live a comfy life??
our prison is pretty depressing too, not as crowded as our neighbours but can drive one mad even before getting the necktie treatment. Sometimes i wonder why western countries have very pretty prison, refurbished, tv, buddy buddy system.
pic related is not even isolation confinement, its your day-to-day prison cell
t. someone who awol during national service and sentenced 3 weeks detention
I had a nog friend in high school named 'Tehran' because hid dad converted to Islam while in prison.
>Muh feeeelings
our recidivism rate is one of the lowest in the world, so it clearly works unlike third world countries where crime is rampant
your country have way more crime and corruption than norway! Please explain why harasser punishment haven't reduce crime in your country?
Based.
Ruskies are our brothers and i hope our countries become friends again
>I literally don't buy the muh civilised meme.
you literally don't? well you're not civilized then.
translate.google.no
>Of men convicted of violence and who have previously been sentenced to imprisonment, more than 60 percent will be back in jail within just two years of release.
That's for a specific crime, not the general redicivism rate.
no fucking shit. the article states that we inprison people for things that other countries don't, these prisoners have low chance of relapse, which is why the general rate is low
I pointed out that in crimes that really matter, the relapse rate is high
Why the fuck would be against people bettering themselves? No one will enjoy it because there are books. People want freedom.
Were you trying to say gas chamber or is gas camera a euphemism for asshole? Eitherway we dont use the gas chamber anymore, we almost exclusively use lethal injection and usually at least 10 years after the initial conviction.
American prisons are literal slave colonies.
the vat is right, I'm not a huge prison industrial complex fan but there's a point when you just make prisons purposeless by giving all the amenities or more the person would have on the outside. People don't like to admit it but prison for the most part isn't about rehabilitation, humans are naturally inclined to fuck over others for their benefit and for many or even most people you can't change them. The purpose of prison usually just comes down to punishment, you administer punishment to increase the risk involved in committing crimes, it serves as a warning, a threat.
We'll be partying in Tehran by 2019
Civilization and "being civilized" are spooks
A friend of mine's daughter was killed and he used to believe criminals should be coddled. Changed his tune pretty quick on that one.
>for many or even most people you can't change them
You're peddling psuedo-science. Different methods of incarceration have different recedivism rates.
>its about punishment
Harsher punishments don't correlate with deterrence of criminal activity. There's been studies on this.
how she go out?
Stabbed to death by some mentally unstable dude
varg?
lmao if only
Chinese know to enact the death penalty. In America, death row is a $10m affair. China? 17 cents for the bullet.
>pic related
>*Chinese know how to enact the death penalty
based China knows what it's doing
Well the US does have a serious problem with revolving door prisons where people go in for their crimes only to go back in 5 years later. Don't forget the private prison system that's ran for profit so they already have an incentive to keep people in their jails.
>canadian flag
>posts positively about china
hey there chang, if chingchongland is so much better why don't you fuck off back home?
>You're peddling psuedo-science
I would be peddling pseudo science if I claimed to be supporting an actual scientific practice, which I'm not. The people who you got
>Different methods of incarceration have different recedivism rates.
probably do push their statistics as science, even though human behavior and humans in general are so varied in so many different factors you couldn't possibly hope to actually conduct a controlled experiment with multiple people.
> Harsher punishments don't correlate with deterrence of criminal activity
What exactly constitutes "harsher" is completely subjective, and again I doubt you do any kind of rigorous controlled test on this.
I bet it doesn't get more progressive than this. In Finland, there is an open prison where work brings freedom.
I can be Canadian and be for castle law, stand your ground and the death penalty without all the BS.
I mean really, $10m to put someone on death row. Or how about life in prison for $80k/yr. Why not just mulch the human garbage and use whats left for fertilizer? I'm not so generous to let the scum continue to be a drain on society.
I also agree with China's attempt at an engineered society and economy vs unbridled capitalism and a democracy where only the rich elite can win anyway.
ching chong ding dong
>prison where work brings freedom
where have I heard that before
If anything prisoners should be a net contributor to the economy and cover the cost of incarceration plus pay their debt back or off to the wood chipper for state sanctioned mulching.
Nope, opinion is my own, but by all means justify your position.
two chow mein and a can of tango please xx
>I can be Canadian and be for castle law, stand your ground and the death penalty without all the BS.
that's because you're a low IQ rice nigger who don't understand the purpose of "all that BS"
you deserve execution van ride for shitposting
$10m and 10 years is ridiculous to execute someone. Also, why keep someone in jail for life at huge cost to society?
Mass murderers like Breivik get released and for what? Why spend $1.6m keeping him for 20 years before you do? What's your reasoning to keep the garbage alive and costing your society even more?
If you don't like it you can fuck right off back to chinkland, you parasite.
We should have. The Nuremberg trials were extremely harsh in the punishments it gave, by modern standards.
Unlike America, here a life sentence automatically means you will NEVER get released.
Although the EU wants us to force us to change that. Because the EU of course can't stand justice.
>we let our prisoners read books isn't it awesome!
But there are libraries in Russian prisons too.
>new evidence shows that victim was in fact innocent
>still can't get out because a life sentence automatically means you will NEVER get released
retarded. the EU is in the right for once
It's very rare that cases get reopened, but that is theoretically possible. I meant there is no parole and people don't get released due to old age.
Technically the King can pardon you. But he normally never does. It has only happened once in the last 45 years.
I don't want to pay more taxes so that prisoners can serve sentences in hotel-esque cells, I don't understand how anyone can argue against this, does it make you feel better?
>hotel-esque
it's just a bunch of IKEA shit
There are prisons in the Third World with a similar model that experience a similar phenomenon.
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muh emotivism means nothing when euros have a less crime and a wholly superior system for improving society. If you start executing everyone, then you take away from society by removing potential skilled workers and consumers. If you don't correctly rehabilitate and improve a prisoner, then you've just got useless and dangerous fucks on what amounts to welfare for their whole lives.
because russia and brazil have an excellent justice system and crime rate
can't blame him, sony is fucking shit
Prisoners should be forced to learn a trade and then be released on parole to work in their field for a set period of time. That'll teach those sick fucks to be poor on my tax payer dollar
>prison in norway
>still all brown people
Northerners are so pathetic, that's not a fucking prison, might as well keep committing crimes to have free housing.