>e""""u""""
>relevant
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>greece point of view
dont bully cyprus
You sure get your statistics from credible sources.
it's a fact not a view
it's an IMF chart
seems anti eu to me
not a fan of the eu but biased points of view are pathetic
that shit countries are less poor while european counties are still growing their gdp each years, what a news !
Probably a Turk in Germany
might be right, britain sold turkey guns and fighter jets despite the eu telling britain no trade deals while brexit happens
>less poor
which means that day by day they become more relevant while the e""""u"""" less
>britain sold turkey guns and fighter jets
fake news
e*rofighter a shit
ur guns a shit
Fils de pute
sure macaroni
no, they become less irrelevant, here is the shade
Image marked with "Left" shows you GDP per capita, PPP chart of European Union. Image marked with "Right" shows you GDP based on PPP, share of world. Now you should understand that if GDP based on PPP (share of world) decreases, it does not mean that EU GDP based on PPP is falling. It means that there are other countries in world with developing economies which outpaces EU growth.
yes and they present more innovation, investment and disposable capital
more players, more desire to win and succeed compared to the decadent yuros
no, they started so fucking low that it pretty easy to have 10% gdp growth a year using western economic tactics, doesnt mean they are more innovate or dispose more cpital investments.
it's not about ppp but share of world gdp
smaller share = less relevancy
>2018: USA becoming nearly entirely irrelevant, Europe already in a union. China's communist economy showing supremacy of planned economy
>2030: European Union of Socialist Republics formed, Beijing-Brussels axis is supreme authority of world affairs
>2035: Second Russian revolution, Russian Socialist Federation joins Eurasian Socialist World Republic
>2040: USA is an outlier on the brink of collapse, looked down upon as a rogue state of capitalist oppression
>2050: Fully Automated Luxury Communism worldwide
>2075: Interstellar faster than light travel, Cold Fusion, Discovery of alien life. Human colonisation and terraforming of the galaxy begins
>2100: United Socialist Federation of Planets founded, immortality achieved for humans
Following your retarded logic we can conclude that United States, European Union and China (2.4% difference) are irrelevant? All of those economies has similar share of world GDP.
no but both USA and China are more innovative to the e""""u"""" and therefore more relevant
>USA and China are more innovative
how so ? by coming from nuclear plants to coal burning ? lol
China is the world leader in solar panels r&d for example
solar panels use silicium tho, its just impossible to only use this for electricity production.
correct, China is moving forward
The life expectancy of solar panels is no longer than 30 years. Lots of toxic chemicals are emitted in their manufacturing process as well. China is building insane amounts of solar energy facilities yet they don’t have technology to recycle the disposed panels.
many hi or low tech industries are notorious polluters.
i never understand why the people of greece decided to join the eu.
They were a shitty balkan/turkish level economy that never should've been allowed to join. Once they joined they found they couldn't keep up and started struggling even harder.
Did you know that during the financial crisis, some baltic nations, with lower gdp per person, and a lower standard of living had to help the greece because they were too proud to cut back in costs?
i would be so ashamed to be greek.
>i would be so ashamed to be greek.
same can be said about dutch banks and dutch people. said baltic peoples' money actually bailed your corrupt and failed banks. you should apologise to them and Greece actually, show some gratitude
Source?
You do know that coal does the same, right?
dutch people bailed out their own banks. and the greek central bank.
they didn't take a single euro from the EU for it and are large (per person some of the largest) contributors of the imf and ecb.
Also, not only are the dutch lending large sums of money to the greek, they actually relieved some debts (as in, you don't have to pay. it turned into a gift instead of a loan).
Clearly you have no shame whatsoever.
You poor grease. Facts are not in your favor.
That is exactly why the EU must federalize. Just think how little influence the disunited European countries would hold when even all of them together would still have under 20% of the world GDP.
>You do know that coal does the same, right?
I didn’t even mention anything about coal.
spectrum.ieee.org
Disclaimer: If anything, I strongly advocate choosing nuclear energy over the meme-tier renewable energy as a viable replacement of fossil fuels.
>dutch people bailed out their own banks
wrong
yours and others' major yuro corrupt banks went bust in 2008 and the e""""u"""" budget bailed them out. it was simply masked as the infamous ""greek bail out"",have no delusions
>lending
right, which means you're getting payed interest on top of everything
>relieved some debts
nope
restructuring and haircut only happened on domestic assets and institutions, banks etc. No foreign capital was harmed. You're making good money out of this crisis. Show some gratitude and stop lying and playing stupid.
federalise on your own then. debt colonies have no place in such a union
>forced to feed Germany all your winnings
>forced to buy and sell by German rules
>punished for success with higher "membership responsibility" fees
>bankrupt countries get free gibsmedat to save face and pretend the union works
EU does not encourage success, at all.
meh
there's still a wide gap between research and actual industrial application. most of yurops scientific papers and innovation is meme tier and that's why there's little industrial application
see AI research for example. Only now, that the e""""u"""" is falling far behind, have they decided to invest in it.
you can't just blatantly lie on the internet and expect people to join your illusion.
may 2010:
IMF helped greece.
Dutch banks got saved by dutch state. not the eu: nytimes.com
nbcnews.com
Direct loans from countries: 52.9 billion. (3.2 dutch). 0 repaid.
IMF loans: 20.7 billion. 0 repaid.
feb 2012:
EFSF loans: 141.8 billion (13.25 dutch). 10.9 repaid.
IMF loans: 12.1 billion. 1.4 repaid.
earlyer loans' interest rates are lowered and time to repay is increased.
ECB declares it will return all profits of greek obligations to greece.
Aug 2015:
ESM loans: max86 billion, used: 45.9. (2.5 dutch). 2.1 repaid.
IMF loans: 1.6 billion. 0 repaid.
>You're making good money out of this crisis.
Classic. blame the people lending you money. It's almost as if they forced you to take the loan.
How about... if you don't want to pay interest, don't take the loan?! You've been living well above your means for years and now it's time to pay back what you owe. tough bullet to bite but you did this to yourselves.
and please. if in the coming year(s) the greek state comes knocking for more free moneys, which they might as well even get, and maybe even get some reliefs,
Please remember how horrible the lenders are. Please claim that greece can do it on their own. Or.. you know... just pay back what you owe and go your merry own way.
you need us. we don't need you.
From fathers of philosophy to this I see that you are not interested in facts. You are holding your own opinion even if it's has no basis. You are backfiring with statements that has no supporting arguments. This is below retarded. This is actually most primitive mindset a man can adapt.
can't wait to see the cliff when brexit happens
post got mixed up.
>Dutch banks got saved by dutch state. not the eu: nytimes.com
nbcnews.com
was supposed to go below the overview of greek loans.
This overview is from march 2018:
may 2010:
IMF helped greece.
Direct loans from countries: 52.9 billion. (3.2 dutch). 0 repaid.
IMF loans: 20.7 billion. 0 repaid.
feb 2012:
EFSF loans: 141.8 billion (13.25 dutch). 10.9 repaid.
IMF loans: 12.1 billion. 1.4 repaid.
earlyer loans' interest rates are lowered and time to repay is increased.
ECB declares it will return all profits of greek obligations to greece.
Aug 2015:
ESM loans: max86 billion, used: 45.9. (2.5 dutch). 2.1 repaid.
IMF loans: 1.6 billion. 0 repaid.
greece owes the dutch alone about 20 billion. around 10% of its dgp.
You shouldn't be shitposting on Jow Forums.
you should be working your ass off. once you repaid all you owe you can be stupid as much as you like.