Hey Germans, how do you feel about the current situation in Korea?

How can the meeting of the two leaders of two countries who discuss possible reunification make reunification less likely?

no war -> no forced reunification through annexation of the north
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Why is that? They'll get rid of the DMZ, form closer economic and cultural bonds. Maybe not likely but more so than in a state of war, I should think.

1. They already had a war in the 1950s
2. Germans united without annexation too

So? That's a bad way of thinking, that reunification will only come by violently overthrowing the ebil regime of the North. That kind of viewpoint only makes peaceful reunification less likely.

The annexation of East Germany by West Germany was a mistake.

I think it will be much more difficult for the Koreans than it was for us.
While North Korea is an absolutely totalitarian regime, in which the citizens have no contact with the South, East Germans could correspond with West Germans, send Christmas parcels, etc., but this is not the case. The East Germans were able to receive West radio and television, in North Korea there are jammers blocking these signals (as far as I know). Even though East Germany was a dictatorship, it was almost liberal compared to North Korea.
I hope the best for the Korean people, but it will be very difficult for them.

GDR was a qt

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who the fuck cares if they reunify or not. the goal is denuclearization and peace. beyond that the gooks can do whatever the fuck they want

yeah the other option is the peaceful collapse of North Korea
but I imagine Kim-Jong Un now wants to try a different strategy of preserving his power without risking to lose it all...
indeed

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>reunification korea
like the Goku Fusion With Mr. Satan

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Also North Korea is several magnitudes poorer than South Korea. The GDR was the most successful economy of the Eastern Bloc for what it's worth. Living standards were fairly high considering the circumstances. Meanwhile the North Korean regime struggles to feed its citizens. Plus East Germany was comparatively small - it only had a fifth of the West's population. South Korea is only twice as large as North Korea.
A Korean reunification process would be much, much MUCH harder than the German one, which was just an annexation for all intents and purposes.

north korea sits on a trillion dollars worth of natural resources and is an untapped market for huge growth and development. think big kim

As the only person old enough to remember this, it's amusing to see people that say it would be impossible to do.

Why?

There is still a chance Kim might conquer the south by sending them millions of "refugees".

Worked on Europe for sandpeople.

I dreamed of going to the DPRK, it seems that now I will have to search again for the country, in which is hard to get in.

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>which was just an annexation for all intents and purposes.
Your problem is that you are still treating this as one. As though South Korea will just annex North Korea and then have to deal with the troubles of integrating it into their preexisting infrastructure. What we are seeing now is why that won't happen. A reunification will happen on equal terms, with both governments working together to preserve the progress that the two societies have made for the sake of the korean people.

the GDR was DESTROYED by based Hasselhoff

youtube.com/watch?v=TheW5eqAbx0

Still pretty hard to get in. I don't think China has lifted its restriction on tourism to North Korea yet.

Another destination is Mecca, it's theoretically hard to get there.

is this about fat kim meeting with the south korean president?
that doesn't mean reunification is on the agenda right?

Only if you are female.

Nah, people here are just going crazy over the smallest hints of new developments. But then, it's not just a meeting, they've also agreed to end the war between north and south korea.

>they've also agreed to end the war between north and south korea.
in other words, korean war went from stalemate to US victory

If you're someone who believes that the US entered the war "only to defend south korea youguiz" then sure.

Although even then, it only counts as a "US victory" within america, since the war wasn't between the United States and North Korea.

Good for them. I don't really care.

victory how?
the border is still around the 38th parallel and the north regime still exists
it's just a status quo

There are official tours from Russia to the DPRK, 7 days for $ 1000 is the cheapest.

>Mecca

You can find tour agency for NK in lot of countries.
And they got very strict rules there, limit for annual number of tourists and obligatory interview in embassy. You need to prove yourself to get there even as a tourist.

is this possible?
at present, our's gdp per capita is estimated at $ 32,774 and Nork's at $ 1,500(assumption)

i.imgur.com/Bw8SGbY.jpg

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I can't wait to ride the restored Gyeongui Line train.

Who knows, Japan might finally approve the Strait tunnel

because our armed forces will have formally secured the existence of the republic of korea, which was the stated goal of the korean war

Reunification would have to mean the ROK shares a border with China, which neither country wants.

you will have 25 million people who can work for food and a lot of minerals.

It actually was pretty hard.
For the west it meant mostly a horrible debt rate (pic related). The east on the other hand suffered really badly. Most of their industry got wiped out and the whole region got structural problems (everyone that could was/is running to the west for jobs). They untill now have a way higher unemployment rate, lower wages, less retirement money and if you go far enough to the east you pretty much find ghost towns, at best inhabitated by a few old people that do not even have doctors/banks/shops/post offices....

Nö.
But 1 trillion € for the DDR was quite a price to pay.

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How much does Japan have to pay in reparations to North Korea now?

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why not

>Reunification would have to mean the ROK shares a border with China
It would not. You only think that it must because americans are incapable of viewing the world through anything other than a lens of hegemonic imperialism. What you are describing is annexation, not reunification of the two Korean governments.

just as a jackal cannot become a lamb, the yank imperialist cannot change his rapacious nature

I think if it happened, a buffer zone of some kind would be established in the northern third of the peninsula; also China would undoubtedly like to keep their mining rights in North Korea and access to ports.

>Before reunification
>being drafted to fight commie rebels

>after reunification
>being drafted to fight commie chinks

Nothing changed. Or maybe worse

Britain and France were against German reunification for balance of power reasons, but I guess they didn't factor in that absorbing the DDR wouldn't strengthen Germany, rather the opposite.

No....Kim would only unify if he could rule and that shit isn't happening.

>DDR
>is surrounded by First World democracies
>is also a safe distance from Russia
>reunified Korea
>not near any First World democracies except Japan, which they don't share a land border with anyway
>the only land border would be with China
>also a population in the North that is vastly more starved/terrorized/incapable of functioning in a normal country than was the DDR's population

>after reunification
>being drafted to fight capitalists

>and if you go far enough to the east you pretty much find ghost towns, at best inhabitated by a few old people that do not even have doctors/banks/shops/post offices

foreignpolicy.com/2016/01/06/building-a-new-life-in-communisms-ghost-towns-east-germany-migrant-refugee-crisis/

Welp...

>>safe distance from Russia
What has this to do with Russia?

Why not go back to being a vassal state like before Japan tore you out of the Qing's bosom.

I'll be quite jelly of them if they actually do get a peace treaty, we still don't have one to this day. When it comes to international law even they would be less cucked than occupied Germany is right now

is it tho?
if it were just that why did you push all the way to Pyongyang and the Chinese border?
it isn't amiss to anyone that the goal of the allied forces once they landed in busan was reunification otherwise the war it wouldn't have lasted long as it did

>if it were just that why did you push all the way to Pyongyang and the Chinese border?

MacArthur was a dumbass who disobeyed orders from Washington to not go near the Yalu.

so you're saying it's wasn't allied policy to dismantle the DKRP?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

DRPK*
fucked that one up

They got permission to cross the 38th parallel, but MacArthur was told not to go too far northward and provoke China. He didn't listen and he thought if the Chinese did come, they would just be some ragged peasant mob with no shoes that would run at the first sight of the US Army.

>sending troops into the mountains in northern Korea with no warm clothing as winter was approaching

Does it even get more stupid than that?

not saying he wasn't stupid but the goal was also clear contain the communist threat in korea
once pyongyang fell would il-sug have sued for peace? idk
but that's not really the issue the strategic and and political goals of the US and it's nato allies weren't achieved in korea and the situation returned to the pre-war conditions
Thus as by definition a status-quo

Korea is nowhere near reunification.

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This MacArthur sounds like a troublemaker. Is he the same guy who became de facto dictator of Japan? Guess getting drunk on power would make you pretty lowsy at following orders.

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he was also the guy who tried to nuke china without the president's approval, which led to him being forced to resign

Both West and East Germany were shit colonies to begin with so it didn't make any difference. South Korea is definitely an american colony in the vein of West Germany and will spread their mental illness to the North.

I hope an united Korea will become a strong independent country who needs no USA or China, and an regional powerhouse

He had not even been in the United States for 13 years when the Korean War began. A lot of people questioned the wisdom of appointing a 70 year old "untouchable" to command the war effort instead of a younger, more flexible general without so much of a god complex.

MacArthur was also the darling of Jow Forumstards in the US back then and rather indiscreetly corresponded with various alt right organizations who were convinced that the New Deal was the ruin of America and all that.

After he was fired following the disastrous rout from North Korea, Matthew Ridgeway rallied the US forces, got them better clothing and food, and launched a counteroffensive to drive the Chinese back to the 38th parallel, where they were held for the rest of the war.

I hope United Korea nuke US intowasteland, and China a little, just to make it weaker

>He didn't listen and he thought if the Chinese did come, they would just be some ragged peasant mob with no shoes that would run at the first sight of the US Army.

In fact when they first went into Korea, they assumed same of the North Korean army; nobody realized that they were facing a professionally trained military with the latest Soviet equipment.

FUCK KOREA

Today ABBA has announced to reunite!

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>Is he the same guy who became de facto dictator of Japan?
Indeed he was and he was also the guy who made it that they have to censor genitals in porn. He was very much a Victorian kind of person who believed in the whole "take up the white man's burden" thing and he had to bring civilization to the yellow people.

Thanks Trump, and GREAT American people, for unification of ABBA!

Intervention in the war was also mostly Mao Zedong's idea. His generals were not enthusiastic about it since they didn't believe they could take on the US military and were still busy mopping up KMT holdouts in China.