Is the Russian language still relevant in eastern Europe?
Is the Russian language still relevant in eastern Europe?
No. It was never really well taught anywa, since commies fucked that up too. Incompetent bottom of the barrel people, their system collapsed on its own from sheer incompetence.
no, since 1990 most of the schools don't even have it in their program as an optional language
even fucking italian is more common
I was forced to learn it in middle school and high school. In some schools, they learned Spanish, Portuguese, and even French. Some places even had German.
I think I got royally shafted, since I forgot everything soon after, anyway. Russian wasn't a language I would use at all, be it in real life, or with media.
I was using English more than my own fucking language at one point, and I learned it organically, through following my interests. School helped me get to the point where I'd be able to read words and form gramatically-correct sentences, but by following my interests and immersing myself in English, I quickly became better at it and even participated in Olympiads in High School, reaching the Nationals.
But I had no opportunity to do that with the Russian. There is nothing interesting in Russian beyond some old novels and poetry.
Most schools have it as an optional language since you gotta learn at least two foreign languages here and German is way too hard for some people.
the Russian language*
No.
>German is way too hard
literally what
i had english & french in elementary school and middle school
then in high school there was no french language at all and i had to learn German, i was the only one in my class who never had German classes before, and i had zero problems learning it
German is hard compared to Russian/English. Literally only """hard""" thing about Russian is their retarded alphabet
Less retarded than your's, pepik.
Not really. When I was in high school they had to lay off Russian teacher because literally nobody from my year chose Russian as second foreign language.
we're at least using latin alphabet like the rest of the civilized world, Ivan
It's like doing drugs, because "cool" kids are using them.
cyrillilc is objectively worse than latin
If a Russian tries really hard and uses a lot of gestures or even doodles a picture, he can get a message across.
It's theirs tho and it fits their language perfectly
that's a pretty retarded comparison. Using latin is way more practical than using those weird as shit letters you guys use.
how is it actually worse
cyrillic was designed to accommodate sounds that are used in slavic languages. so instead of having to put together foreign puzzle pieces to spell out their sounds and end up with crap like pszhzs, they have a single moonrune that does the job.
it's objectively a better script for slavs
I have to agree. At least, with the Russian alphabet. They have THREE fucking "E"s, one of them which isn't pronounced like an "e", it's pronounced like "yo". Also, why the fuck does "Ы" exist? Fucking redundant, the Russian alphabet is.
The extra letters are just useless. Bulgarian has 30 letters and we're doing just fine. We have various rules regarding sounds and it all works out well.
>German is hard compared to Russian/English. Literally only """hard""" thing about Russian is their retarded alphabet
I took German and it definitely has more cases and rules than English but I heard Russian was harder.
>Also, why the fuck does "Ы" exist?
Maybe because it's a specific sound different from "И"?
i agree that the russian cyrillic might not be the most optimized script, but if we talk about cyrillic in general, it's vastly superior to latin scripts in slavic languages
russian is definitely harder for an anglo, that's for sure. and for western europeans in general. in terms of cases, all slavic languages except for macedonians have them (they have some ridiculously simplified replacement in the form of articles i think), but it's not the cases that are the most important, people can understand you even if you fuck up cases all the time, it's mostly the word base that is different
>Russian was harder
for you
Είσαι μαλάkας Τσέχε...
It could've been handled more elegantly, though. Different sound, yeah, but they could pull make some rule regarding the pronunciation of an existing letter. All of these extra letters just add clutter.
Also, IIRC, the Ukrainians have ditched the "Ы" and they're doing just fine.
Mы нaвceгдa бyдeм вмecтe
>how is it actually worse
It looks disgusting. As expected form something that is bastardization of something else (Greek).
>cyrillic was designed to accommodate sounds that are used in slavic languages
No, it was designed for specific Slavic language and doesn't suit all of them. For example Polish has several sounds that don't have corresponding characters in Cyrillic and would still require diacritics.
Also, if you people are just about perfect accomodation of sounds, why have I never seen any of you propose for example Glagolitic? It too was designed for (some) Slavic languages and looks much better than Cyrillic.
>muh alphabet is better that yours
:)
>it's vastly superior to latin scripts in slavic languages
It's not. And no, Polish is not the pinnacle of Latin script in a Slavic language.
good one
it's actually ours
We just accepted Cyrill and Methodius into our country and let them finish their new alphabet here, but then, later on we added our own polish and suited it to our needs and that was what was spread around. Not completely "ours", but it's still a cause of pride.
Two greek brothers from thessaloniki
>ours
Whatever floats your boat
Cyrillics is literally Greek with few minor changes.
>Literally only """hard""" thing about Russian is their retarded alphabet
What? You can learn it in 1 - 2 days
We all know which is the best script anyway.
Honestly, in here it probably would be a better option as a second languange than Swedish.
But really, it isn't that relevant.
Yes, it's more and more relevant. I feel like at least one out of ten people I come through on the street are Russian-speakers. And most of them can only speak hi, thank you in Polish and that's it. I can see often people can't get what the cashier means so they start speaking Russian. But it's just about Ukrainians. Not that many Russians or Belarussians here. If that's what you mean saying relevance
And then, no one learns it in the school now. I learned it by myself in 4-5 years and when I admit I speak Russian or help some Ukrainian on the street most people look down on me. So I can get why no one studies it. But on the other side, that's why it was worth it. It's easier to find a job
Its even pretty relevant in Germany.
I never been in US, but I heard official documents in NY are released in 3 languages - English, Spanish and Russian. I even saw online NY traffic rules PDF in 3 languages.
Considering numbers of Ukrainians in Poland, and Russians/Baltic Russians/Ukrainians in London/Spain, Russian should be pretty relevant/
>official documents in NY are released in Russian
that's so the sleeper agents have an easier time reading them
Isn't Russian and Polish the same thing?
The Latin and Cyrillic alphabets literally came from the middle east so neither are civilised unlike the Old Turkic alphabet which Turkey must implement or it will not survive ok shit master?
Yes it is, just like Greek and Turkish.
Hard to admit, but unironically this
I'd rather say Greek and Bulgarian, since their alphabets are similar and they understand each other, just as Poles and Russians
I mean don't understand*
>I never been in US, but I heard official documents in NY are released in 3 languages - English, Spanish and Russian. I even saw online NY traffic rules PDF in 3 languages
They come in a lot of languages and it varies by local immigrant population.
oh come on, i can clearly hear the similarity between polish and russian, i consider them both "north slavic" languages
Yeah. At least in the post-soviet republics. For two reasons:
1. They sent a lot of Russian colonizers and workers here back in the USSR, so you'll encounter a lot of Russians and half Russians, especially in the capital. While most of them are alright, some are turbo-vatniks or just really old people who refuse to learn the language. If you want to work in a shop or something, you'll need Russian to speak to these folks.
2. It is to the older generations what English is to us and remains the lingua franca to people over 30-35 years old. When my dad gets a call from his friend in Latvia, they speak to each other in Russian.
Funny thing, the reason why I took Russian in school is because whenever adults were talking about adult matters around kids, they'd use Russian.
I think Serbian and Polish are more similar than Polish and Russian. I can speak Polish and Russian though. Well at least pronunciation, since Serbian probably would have more Turkish words and you so called northern Slavic languages more German words. But then Russia still is a partly Asian country
Polish is further away from Russian than Croatian is.
The Czech version of the Latin alphabet is literally the best.
Are you serious? The alphabet is piss easy, my nanny taught me most of it when I was like 5. And the amount of inflection and cases in Russian is Lithuanian tier. It might be easier for us to wrap our heads around it, because our grammar is similar, but objectively speaking, German is much easier.
that's beacuse russian took loanwords from old church slavonic, which was based on a south slavic dialect
but polish still isn't that hard to understand for me
ukrainian and czech are. their pronounciation is closer to south slavic, but they have a different vocabulary
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>The Czech version of the Latin alphabet is literally the best.
Because it's very similar compared to yours?
Yes :)
It suits our language very well, the only things we added are the useless ą ę į ų.
Maybe it would suit Polish too. č>cz
Shut the fuck up you asshurt polacks
Fucking kek
Just admit Polish looks ugly as shit with latin and change to Cyrillic.
There is no shame in it.
they called Coney Island the playground of the world
In Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova and baltic states - yes. Lithuanian and latvian singers can sing in Russian without accent.
In Poland you have to know Polish.
Not him but I would agree. The only reason we don't is probably because Russians were cunts for us during the world war so we can't steal their alphabets
very much so, especially now that there are half a million ruskies with property on the seaside and we're about to be Crimea'd
>Chinese? Japanese? Vietnamese? Same gooks languages
Nam prišlos by vybirať drugoj dialěkt štoby pisať latinicej, v literaturnom jazykě mnogo mǎgkich okončǎnij.
hold on a second didn't millions of Russians give their own lives to liberate your country from Germany and then give you almost all of the land they conquered from Germany? how were they cunts?
Кyдa жe мы блядь дeнeмcя, кoнeчнo мы бyдeм вмecтe, ecли бы я мoг, yлeтeл бы oбpaтнo в coзвeздиe Opиoн, тaм cлaвянcкaя poдинa, тaм нaш дoм.
I can agree that Polish looks ugly when compared to say Czech but still it looks a lot better than it would look with cyrillic which is probably one of the shittest looking alphabets in existence.
Side question. Who allowed you in Switzerland, Boris?
Stop
not an argument
Bullshit, I speak Polish and in latin it looks better. Cyrillic Polish probably would be a different language. More closer to eastern polish dialekts.
Polish doesn't look ugly, don't listen to him.
Polish cyrillic has a potential problem (like russian/ukrainian latin).
Please, say it again, i didn't understand.
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It doesnt.
Cyrillic is better by far. It is the thinking mans alphabet.
However you may be right. Russian is generally a much more beautiful language than Polish. Maybe changing the alphabet wouldnt help after all, Grzerzrorzczsch
Cyrylica to faktycznie alphabet wschodnioeuropejski.
Of course, it's still the language of our elite.
>Its even pretty relevant in Germany.
bullshit
I am from a town near the Polish border, only old people know a few words of Russian ans we are glad you are gone
That is my point tho
did you two digit IQ retards not notice the " " or what
is this the power of mutt education system?
this looks better desu desu
Visit any city, especially Berlin, you'll be surprised how much Russian language on the streets.
>When I was in high school they had to lay off Russian teacher because literally nobody from my year chose Russian as second foreign language.
There's hope for this country after all
There are more Russian native speakers in Germany than Turkish ones according to our census all the Russian Germans, Russian 'Germans' and Russian jews that came here make up a pretty big number but they are not a visible minority. Just go to you local chess club.
>Russian is generally a much more beautiful
Indeed genuine sound of heavens.
t. krokodil zombie
Loled, what peasant will do in chess club?
>every slavic language has the same sounds
>let me tell you about your language
>abloobloo muh sz cz!
What a load of horseshit
Lepiejbyście przyjeżali do nas niż do anglików. To jest moja opinia.
Well to people from other places, Slavic languages do have a certain "ugly" sound to them. It sounds like how you would talk like if you are chewing a very sour candy for example
>my Polak ass is on FIREEE!!!!
Chociaż sam po prawdę czasem już myślę na temat emigracji.
They made us their satellite while being inhuman towards Polish people.
> and then give you almost all of the land they conquered from Germany?
Picture related: Russians took A and gave us B
>when I admit I speak Russian or help some Ukrainian on the street most people look down on me.
Hah, good
Give those ukrop imigrants a decade or two and they'll speak nothing but Polish. Pan is a powerful word.
Wy byliście przeciwko Janukowicza, a on ma polskie korzeni.
A is worthless swampland. B is resource-rich, and more compact and generally better in every way. Poland was much better off after Soviet armies swept through your lands then before is my point
No surprise, Croats and Poles are literally the same people
Mы пoляки, нa пepвoм мecтe, пpoтив дpyгим пoлякaм и тoлькo пoтoм пpoтив вceм