Norway explain this please

it better not be real because i'm pretty pissed at the moment bratan

>rote-and-remember
kys

t. never done anything creative in his life but just follow recipe
right or wrong?

Pharmacists don't just work in drug shops and the education itself isn't "rote-and-remember".

More like 30k, you'd be paying 45% in taxes on a salary like that

8k euro monthly? Did you mean 800?

Also pharmacists don't make that much, certainly not on average and they are not the highest paid on avg. either.

where do pharmacists work then? some big tier chemical company? genuinely interested btw (not busting your balls or anything)
no. i meant 8k. i got a job offer for that money, but i turned it down because norway just doesn't seem like a country i'd like to work/live in. no hard feelings i hope, but your country is the most boring shithole on earth

Where can I see taxes?

armata

A pharmacist in Norway is not just some dude selling drugs in the drug-store (in fact pharmacists don't sell drugs normally).
Those who are "pharmacists" here are actually developing medicines.

those are pharmacologists, they are doctors.

probably utter lack of suitable workers in the field

pharmacists are not just the ppl standing behind the counter, the pill industry is huge, they need them to discover new pills that wont kill you if you eat them by the gallons, i had a friend who went to sweden for astronomical salary once she finished her studies, which are 5 years and you get to use dr. infront of your name, its no easy business and apparently nords dont like to become anyhing thats related to healthcare, theres an infite need there for anything related

They can be involved in hospital work and in research and development of drugs in the pharmaceutical industry. In Croatia, MDs can specialise pharmacology and replace some of those roles, but for example, in USA, they employ pharmacists to take part in managing the hospital's meds. Some work as drug reps, but those are cancer. I'm not one, though, I'm a med student.

kind of weird from my perspective because here a pharmacist is someone who mixes drugs and sells them in a pharmacy while chemists do the developing work

Probably just some mislabeling issue then. Do people in norway have a speical term for pharmacy clerks then ?

>Probably just some mislabeling issue then.
i get the feeling we have a lot of that itt

>to discover new pills
>chemists do the developing work
There a whole series of degrees involved in that, though. I know a professor who is involved in developing a new potential drug, he's an MD specialised in pharmacology. Other MDs and dentists are involved, while a chemist is the one who created the synthetic modified version of what was a naturally occurring peptide. He was also involved with a pharmaceutical company here, but is now working mostly with the state university's money. Also, there's a physicist subspecialised in biophysics involved.

It all ends up mixing up into a multidisciplinary effort.

I don't know what you call them, but I know people who took the pharmacy educaton here, they work as chemists and they work on the development on medicines, and their salaries are high. Those who work at the drug stores have very normal salaries, and clearly not the group which is in OP's info-thingy. Trust me, drug store people do NOT make anything remotely close to what it says in OP. You must be completely crazy to even entertain that thought as a serious possibility.

Also, this info is probably not accurate anyway, they've been telling us for years here in Norway that lawyers are those who have the highest average salaries. Why it says here that they make less than I do is beyond me, but it's not true. They earn a lot.

> no hard feelings i hope, but your country is the most boring shithole on earth

dunno why people keep saying Norway is boring.
It has stunning landscape and enough space for everyone.

maybe you are the boring one here

wtf engineers are poorfags in Norway, there melts my dream into thin air

You're a lawyer? What's your salary after tax?

The median salary for Norwegian pharmacists was about $81,500 according to SSB in 2017, and Oslo's median most definitely isn't 50% higher. I wouldn't trust salary figures outside this official page ssb.no/en/statbank/table/11418

They kind of are compared to other fields of similar prestige but that list is full of garbage. It's wrong on nearly everything

Here's Germany for example
Would you say the figures are accurate?

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if you like camping/hiking, norway is definitely
not a boring place for you, but if you like drugs and hard parties it is compared to germany a kindergarten sleep time

And after tax, appartment&groceries you're left with 20k. Hm

No I'm not a lawyer. I'm just saying my salary is higher than that which OP-info says a lawyer supposedly is making (which is not true). In fact, I just checked, they make $87,918 on average (i.e. average for the whole country, not just Oslo).

Here's a link teleport.org/cities/munich/salaries/

Not true, but if your point is that we have taxes and high costs, then yes.

>electrical engineers make less money than iShit software monkeys
ffs i thought this meme was only true here. why teh fuck do those imbeciles get so much money?

And how much money you have in the end of the year? I'm sure Norway isn't poor, but that was just my calculations for Oslo.

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itt retards who don't know what a pharmacist actually does. they don't just sell drugs but they have also to know the chemical stuff and shit like that. here in Germany you have to go like 2 or 3 years to school before you can become a pharmacist.

pharmacists in oslo makes around 80~85ish'k before taxes
120k must be a glitch of some kind

in london people know how retarded javashit developers are so they charge them accordingly

>80~85ish'k before taxes
And after tax it's like 40?

I personally have $1k left each month, after taxes, groceries, mortgage downpayment, and all other expenses that I have. In other words, about 1k more than I need, living a pretty decent life. I normally put most of that 1k into paying down even more on the mortgage tho, but I also save some on a buffer saving account that I keep.

I have a couple of questions left
1. How long till you pay off the mortgage?
2. What's your occupation and how long did you study for it?

57-63k would be normal.

Originally I am supposed to pay it off in 20 years, but it will be much faster because I'm putting so much more money into the downpayment. Maybe somewhere between 10 and 12 years, I haven't done any calculations on it.

I work in the post office. I did not need higher education for it.

I want to find a job in Scandinavia as a chemist. is it possible tell me

So they let you have a loan if you have a stable job even if you've got no degree? Even if you're alone, without a partner?

no its about supply, we have too many code monkeys

Of course, as long as you have 15% equity

What website is that, rusbro?

And what's the interest rate?

tell me about scientists in norway

It seems like it's bullshit

Oh I didn't see that. Thanks anyway

2,3% for me.

In Finland if you're getting a loan young (until you hit 30) you get 1.2% interest rate but you are sometimes required to pay like 20% upfront downpayment. Are you in Oslo or just a medium-sized town?

Is this list real? My brother was offered ~56k as a elementary school teacher in Oslo straight out of college. And I also worked as a full time substitute teacher for a year before i begun in college and earned 47k. How can median salary be ~48k?

Stavanger, so I guess medium-plus? It's the 3rd largest.

Not bad, not bad.
In Russian reality you can, maybe, suck a dick instead of getting a loan if you work the post office job.

Is teaching hard? I thought it was mostly women who work these kind of jobs unless you are a university professor

Seconding this. I think I chose the wrong job

What are your questions about it?

How's the salary? How difficult is it to get a job? How many labs are there? How do they fare salary-wise compared to the average Norwegian with a decent diploma?

That's pretty cheap
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270k $ in a town with an average salary of 3,700$