What is the Jow Forums consensus on Germany?

>WW1 ends
>Wilson begs allies to be nice to poor Germany, American investment rushes in to rebuild Germany in the interwar years
>WW2 ends
>Truman spends millions rebuilding Germany, sends American troops to defend their former enemies and half of Germany's debt was forgiven even though they started the war
>Soviets block western ground and water access to West Berlin, America and Britain risk war with USSR to supply West Berlin entirely by air with four planes landing every minute loaded with food and supplies and airmen even personally buy and drop candy for the children
>Cold War ends
>Thatcher, Mitterrand, and Gorby all are against German reunification, but Bush convinces them to accept it
>Today
>Germany has the lowest support of the USA out of all EU nations and all NATO countries save Turkey
>American soldiers are on German soil pledged to give up their LIVES for a country that hates them while Germany's leader calls America an unreliable ally
>meanwhile America nuked Japan and dropped more explosives on Vietnam than were used in all of WW2 but they still like America more than Germans do
>Britain also helped them a ton after having been attacked by Germany in two wars but now 90% of Germans want to hurt Britain in the Brexit negotiations

Why are Germans such ungrateful, mean, and self-righteous people?

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I used to have a decent opinion of them before browsing Jow Forums. Now I have a very negative opinion of them

A bunch of arrogant cunts who could have conquered Europe if not for their autism

Some of them are alright

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Never trust a G*rman, they're priming the gas canisters as we speak

and sending them to Ghouta

You just described the French
>destroy the HRE and subjugate Spain to ensure your control over Europe
>can't hold on your empire for more than 10 years

>>Truman spends millions rebuilding Germany, sends American troops to defend their former enemies and half of Germany's debt was forgiven even though they started the war
>>Soviets block western ground and water access to West Berlin, America and Britain risk war with USSR to supply West Berlin entirely by air with four planes landing every minute loaded with food and supplies and airmen even personally buy and drop candy for the children

You're joking right? Brits and French killed 1M young german men in prisoner of war camps post-war, while using them for slave labor

At least we did conquer Europe.

French & Germans are cut from the same cloth

Yeah and then you became Germany's bitch in 1870 and in 1940. Also you only survived WW1 thanks to foreign help.

They're actually already in use again.

Why can't the German resist his urge to gas people?

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Germans hate themselves now so helping them makes them think you're bad

yea well America only survived the war of independence thanks to French help, how about that

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Not that user but it was an alliance of convenience; thank you but kindly fuck off

What do nice Frenchies think of the relation speciale between France and America?

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you still owe us though
also that might have been the case politically, but Lafayette quickly became one of Washington's closest friends and he was probably helping you out of commitment at some point

You're right. It was very convenient that you had France to fund your entire war

the french usually see everything with a tint of nihilism but in that case we're usually very enthusiastic to celebrate d-day and stuff

>Wilson begs allies to be nice to poor Germany, American investment rushes in to rebuild Germany in the interwar years
>Truman spends millions rebuilding Germany, sends American troops to defend their former enemies and half of Germany's debt was forgiven even though they started the war
>Soviets block western ground and water access to West Berlin, America and Britain risk war with USSR to supply West Berlin entirely by air with four planes landing every minute loaded with food and supplies and airmen even personally buy and drop candy for the children

You forget a few key points:
>Wilson had an interest in keeping Germany intact because it . In any event, a good deal of the money that the US gave the Weimar found its way to France as reparations, which in turn found its way back to the US as repayment for war debts.
>Really, the same applied to Truman's decisions regarding Germany, with the additional complications posed by the threat of Soviet takeover. Initially, there was considerable support by Roosevelt to permanently partition Germany so that it could never be a threat.
>The US and the UK very much had an interest in drawing the line at Berlin and this should really go without saying. That said, "Uncle Wiggly Wings" is one of those few moments in history that don't make me feel like shit.

One of the main reasons why everyone laughs at Americans because they cannot grasp the realpolitik behind most of their leaders' decisions.

Yes, but there was in fact extraordinary interest on the part of a few individuals to support the American cause, namely people like Beaumarchais and the Marquis Lafayette. Much of this was rooted on an ideological basis.

Why are Americans so desperate to be liked? Who gives a shit?

>you still owe us though
We repaid whatever debt you think we owed at Normandy
>he was probably helping you out of commitment at some point
Fair enough, but we were in no position to help you out with your own Revolution. We did try to pitch in the Napoleonic Wars but it didn't work out

Stay mad :^)

Yes, the Republics both here and in France were experiments. Ours needs reforming can't say much about France tbqh

T-thanks

I like France and our relationship with the country.

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>relation speciale
sounds gay desu

Nothing gay about two friends being close

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Meanwhile, this is how the Brits see it.

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>visited /deutsch/ thread once

You did some good i understand and i'm grateful for that but still ami go home dumb mutt

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Germany is our old good friend. :3
They are diligence and smart and a little silly.
And they are hentai same as us.

hello, davido-kun

In principle, well summed up.
America is the cancer of the West. Brutal, barbaric, uncultured, superficial, fake, plastic.
The Americans think they are the greatest, only their power is disappearing after only 70 years. A curious chapter in the history books is reserved for you.

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Ivan, you are not fooling anyone.

nuke the us

why are you guys so ungrateful

us is our enemy
nuke the great satan

nuke it

this

It is an insult to all which is good and sacred that it still exists.

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germany is a country that over compensates as trying to be the good guy to get away from the nazi stigma. they should learn from america and do whatever the want and call themselves the good guys anyway.

spain and the dutch helped after valley forge

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They helped. But France earned us victory.

>mfw there are no german flags in this threads.

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Check again.

only a few, and all of them are meme answers.

>they should learn from america and do whatever the want and call themselves the good guys anyway.
they cant

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No we don't hate you.

You just constantly fuck shit up in the middle east, and we have to suffer for it

Their people, from experience, are nice.
Their gov wants to discreetly, quietly, leads Europe. Unfortunately, they totally failed.
Know they are just the number one problem about the EU politics (their governement).

The people? Probably okay (known some creepers from there though).
The country? Rightful Austrian vassal.

What about the future of Germany?

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What can be done about them?

Based Germanbro. I wish our nations had better diplomatic relations.

There will be no future for us

Don't say such a thing ;_;

It's true, kamerad, we'll meet in Valhalla

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I wish it never existed
Warsaw would still be pretty

Very negative. I also find this kinda funny that some American rednecks like G*rmans while G*rmans are the people who hate Americans the most in Europe after people like Russians and some others, but Russians do have their reasons to not like you and still I don't think it's the same hatred. I think many Russians like Americans as individuals.

I don't want to appear rude, but Warsaw is one of the ugliest capital in Europe because of them.

I dont care about them, i know no way to benefit off them.

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Russians on Jow Forums are nicer to Americans than anyone else for some reason.

this please end this shithole

GAS THE KRAUTS RACE WAR NOW

I used to have a negative opinion, Jow Forums just confirmed the things that have already been confirmed in real life

based

like what

>call themselves the good guys anyway
That is what they do.

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>Reparations
Yeah, sucks for you, but you're almost 30 years too late for that.

pay reps
and denbts

I hate that they're basically us but even more successful when you disregard per capita shenanigans.

They're insufferable on Jow Forums though, which I attribute to angry turks, russians and other diaspora being the only ones posting here.

1. No
2. Yes, I'd like to see that happen

pay

scumbags

So because your grandpa helped my grandpa, I should be eternally your slave?

Just shut the fuck up and stop talking shit about germany. Germany is the most single greatest nation of the WORLD

fuck you cuck

Shut the fuck up france germany is superior. Germany is the most important nation in the world

More relevant than you Jean-Mohamed

>I should be eternally your slave?
The concept of Germany paying reparations to so many countries when there are barely any remaining Germans who fought in the war is mind boggling. Should the Italians have to pay reparations to the Germans on account of wrongdoing by the Romans two thousand years ago? How about the English to the Irish, the Turks to the Armenians, or the Russians to the Poles? Why is a special case made for Germany?

You forgot say Heil Hitler.

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US is the most hated country on the Earth today, shut fuck up.

As if Mexicans were without sin.

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>being thankful or at least not resentful makes one a slave

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>Merkel visits the white house few days ago
>all german mass media saying how unfriendly Trump was towards our Kanzlerin and he made swiftly backhanded remarks
>"He's such a mean guy :("
>forgetting that the german politicians and they (the media) badmouthed Trump and USA politics in every way possible
>acting suprised when they don't receive the "old friendliness" they expect

The absolute state of this country. I don't even know anymore.

Don't have a big issue with them really.
I just wish they and everyone could move on from the nazi shit.

why do they expect niceness after being mean?

a nice, tolerant and progressive country

That's my point. It's irrational. They made two critical mistakes: (1) Not being neutral (like journalism should be) (2) Keep their opinion out of international election processes

Can't expect a kid suddenly to be nice to you when you insulted him daily for months up to years.

I wish we were friends but they should pay us for what they did to us in the past. Instead they cooperate with Putin and make another Ribbentrop-Molitov pact (Nord Stream)

>but they should pay us for what they did to us in the past.
not gonna happen, we settled this (legally) decades ago
>another Ribbentrop-Molitov pact
>(Nord Stream)
lmao
>I wish we were friends
you guys should stop constantly antagonizing us if you truly want that
(non-autistic Poles and Germans don't give a fuck and get along fine, I can tell you that)

Dude, people that were not even born until after the war are still paying reparations. They have no reason to be thankful towards us.

They're scum who destroy Europe every chance they get.

I hate them so fucking much. We should've encouraged the Russians so they destroyed/raped them out of existence once and for all. Their flag looks like three shit stains. Even their demon language repulses me.

>yellow shit
Found the curry nigga