Nordic countries

You need to go back, Sergei.

You need to go back, Volodya.

The fact that you're familiar with a nickname like "Volodya" is in itself enough proof that you're relocated Russian scum or one of their rape babies. Real estonians are christians.

>projecting this hard
holy shit the level of retardo in your posts just went up by 100%
get rekt dumbass

I don't think you understand the concept of projecting or "getting rekt".

the eternal ryssä scum strikes and misses, again

Are Estonians normally this akward?

>being this bad at posting
and to think you wanted to filter ME

I don't know normally they just vacuum my floors and empty the garbage without causing a ruckus.

your mum is estonian? wow. hello brudda

I think he meant your mom.
Vacuuming and emptying trash is a metaphor.

or maybe he meant you? cleaning after your basic bitch after she gets the north african seed? idk could be you know

I don’t have gf, vlad

truly a shocker, pjotr

I love how we're in everyone's heads rent free. I can't remember the last time I talked about Finland before this thread.

>I’m a woman
You did this, I will never forgive.
youtu.be/V5tbah19qo8

the russian scum did that and i will also never forgive this because my parents died on that ship

can we drop the act and be bros now?

Yeah, sure buddy.

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Their obsession really is pathetic.

You realize it's a purely a positive thing you don't think about us, right? You probably didn't spend much time thinking about Switzerland or Austria or other safe and high quality of life places either because NOTHING NOTEWORTHY HAPPENS. Which is what we're aiming for.

Both are shit. You're cunts are just as degenerate as ours.

>embracing religion at all

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>being an atheist

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this

Christianity is by far the largest single reason why Europeans achieved global dominance.

yeah.. ships, iron working and money had nothing to do with it

kys brainlet finnshit

how's being an atheist stupid?
you can shitpost about fedoras and euphoria all you want, but at the end of the day you know that religion is fucking retarded.

>christianity is by far the largest single reason why Europeans enslaved and ruined 5 continents
superb.

Abrahamic Religions are all like this though. I would argue that european dominance had more to do with Europeans constantly competing with each other. Islam is extremely imperialistic like the other two abrahamic religions but competition in the Islamic world had been stifled repeatedly by a religious hedgemon time and time again whether it be the Ottomans or the older Caliphates.

Are you really this stupid or just pretending? Of course it was technological advancements and not god's will that enabled us to beat other peoples, but what do you think it was that allowed Europe to have such stable socities where scientific advancements could be made? Dumb fuck. The chinese were literally a hundreds years ahead of us in terms of ships, iron working and money. We copied paper money from the chinese thanks to Marco Polo. Zheng He's ships were more advanced than those used to discover America and they started exploring the oceans 200 years ahead of Europeans.

>pic
The only way the ruined them was by changing the balance of the local fauna so they became overpopulated with niggers and spics

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brainlet post once again. keep going finnshit. you amuse the whole world by being a literal idito

>european dominance had more to do with Europeans constantly competing with each other
That was a major component but christianity played a large role there too. The whole concept of feudal states and later nations competing with each other but because of a shared religion still respecting each other enough to bother with diplomacy and lineages etc. In Asia and Africa the new warlord just wiped the others out and they acted like savages in general.

MYÖ

>but at the end of the day you know that atheism is fucking retarded

ftfy

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Once you grow a little older you'll realize there's a good reason religion exists, and whether some guy parted a sea 3000 years ago is completely irrelevant.

ok, explain why atheism is retarded.

>Once you grow a little older you'll realize there's a good reason religion exists
oh please, enlighten me.

The reasons I would give to you are the same reasons I rejected myself when I was a teenager so I know from experience it would be a waste. In the end it boils down to cultural cohesion. If you get a man to act in a desired manner to please a god, does it really make a difference in the end whether that god exists or not?

>The reasons I would give to you are the same reasons I rejected myself when I was a teenager so I know from experience it would be a waste.
jesus christ, you can't even give me this "good reason" you preach of.
fucking pathetic.

>If you get a man to act in a desired manner to please a god, does it really make a difference in the end whether that god exists or not?
yes, it matters, that's indoctrination, it's literally wrong.

I did give you the reason. Cultural cohesion.
>yes, it matters
Why? What difference does it make? If you live well in the hopes of getting to heaven, or because you're afraid a judgmental god is watching you, then die and don't go to heaven because one doesn't exist, have you not lived well? All those people you treated fairly because christianity told you to, did they not get treated fairly?

>a cuckold semetic doctrine is the reason why Europe ruled the whole world

I guess greece and rome were not a thing

Greece and Rome never achieved global dominance.

>Cultural cohesion
what kind of retarded argument is that? what the fuck does culture have to do with religion?
you think that I'd feel closer to my people through religion or through tango?
little hint: it's not religion.

>because you're afraid a judgmental god is watching you
that's straight up psychological abuse and if you disagree then you're an idiot.
indoctrination is not a good thing.

>what the fuck does culture have to do with religion?

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and who achieved global dominance?

Reminder that this argentinian is a sodomite that prefer having a dick inside his ass than believing in god

that's not an argument.

Jesus was a gay cuck

what the fuck are you even talking about?

Are you not using a European language to communicate using a European tool from a land conquered and exploited by Europeans that since adopted a European form of government and a European form of economy?

>let me lump all of these cultures and societies together so that it fits my argument
let's go one step further and say that Eurasians achieved global dominance.
no, wait, let's go with Afro-eurasia.
you know what, while we're on it we might as well just say that humanity conquered the world.
yeah, there we go.

Those are all European christian cultures and societies which is what I said in the first place, kiddo.
Just as soon as this fucking spam filter lets me post a link.

http://
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10.1093/
acrefore/
97801902286
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acrefore-9780
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thanks hiroshimoot

what's the fucking point of the argument if you're just gonna post links?
I can do that too.
you either argue or stay silent, don't post links.

The connection between culture and religion is so fucking fundamental and basic that you should've been taught it in elementary school. I'm not going to manually recite you all the ground that's covered in K-12 just so you can catch up to grown ups.

>While religion affects cultures, it itself is also affected by culture, as religion is an essential layer of culture. (Beckford & Demerath, 2007)

>as religion is an essential layer of culture
It isn't, but religion has been integral to most, if not all, cultures in the past.

all you keep saying is
>religion is related to culture
>hurr durr you don't know how it's related to culture because you're a child
>they should've told you how religion and culture are related
>it's fundamental
and then you give me a random ass quote from a literal who.
you have literally no argument whatsoever.
religion isn't even remotely necesary for a culture, and it has nothing to do with it.

I think by prefacing that with "it itself is also affected by culture" they're also signifying how they're referring to situations where a religion does exist, even if theoretically you could have a culture without one.

I gave you a very comprehensive and quick to read summary by Oxford encyclopedia, citing dozens of peer reviewed sources. You could've read it in this time, but instead you're here bitching like a baby with colic.

If you cannot understand something as simple as the connection between culture and religion, I'm not interested in continuing this discussion with you. It would be like discussing mathematics with a man who doesn't know how to add and substract.

you're a fucking idiot.
have fun.

Honestly I don't have any stake in this shitflinging contest, but you're pretty much proving him right. He posted a proper academic reference, to which you responded with a literal display of autism. Moreover, it's quite ironic that you accuse him of not substantiating his claims, while yourself making a completely outlandish claim ("it has nothing to do with it") without providing any arguments yourself.

ameriflag

>there are no atheist cultures

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Based leaf.

What exactly is an "atheist culture"? Most Western countries for example are currently quite irreligious, and have relatively high rates of atheism (though you seem to greatly underestimate just how many people are still superstitious to some extent without being religious), yet Christianity is still deeply engrained in the culture, for better or for worse. And so, unless you count that as an "atheist culture", then no, "atheist cultures" don't seem to be particularly present.

In any case, what you posted is completely unrelated to what I posted. Your exact claim was "it has nothing to do with it". Claiming that there exist atheist cultures is not at all a supporting argument of this claim. And finally, you're still ignoring the fact that the Finn posted an actual source whereas you've done nothing but post drivel which reeks of arrogance and unwarranted self-importance.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_Argentina

it's been like 100 posts and I have yet to see a single argument as to why it's good that religion exists.
the only thing you mongoloids keep babbling about is "it's related to culture", which you haven't argued for.
no, posting links is not arguing.

what does that have to do with anything?

I was hoping seeing the link would be sort of an eureka experience for you but I guess I was being overly optimistic.

>yet Christianity is still deeply engrained in the culture, for better or for worse
There are more remnants of paganism than Christendom for a lot of Europe when it comes to culture, from minor things to major things. Some things are fusions of the two, some are Christian only and merely done out of tradition, but largely there are more pagan aspects to certain European cultures than Christian ones. Even the Christianity practiced in some were a pagan-Christian fusion rather than pure Christianity.

Just my two cents on the matter.

>posting links is not arguing.
He posted an academic, peer-reviewed reference. That's literally what scientists do all the time in scientific publications. The actual written text in the scientific publication is mostly their own work, while the work of others is simply cited with the author and year of the publication.

why would that link even matter?
this isn't a secular country, so what?
you think that a fucking holiday is the reason why religion is important and should exist? that's the extent of how religion and culture are related?
fucking pathetic.

I'm not going to make an estimate as to which one makes up the larger part, but there really is no such thing as "pure christianity". All forms and of christianity are shaped by the pagan religions that preceded.

the American one is closer to true Christianity

Fair point, though regardless of whether the exact faith is Christian, pagan, or a form of syncretism combining the two, I think we both agree that remnants of the faith in question are still present even in countries with high rates of irreligiosity and atheism.

>what the fuck does culture have to do with religion?

Nah, the story of god and lucifer is just a metaphor.
Only dummies believe of god and the devil in a literal sense.

>I think we both agree that remnants of the faith in question are still present even in countries with high rates of irreligiosity and atheism
Yes, I do not oppose that fact.

>but there really is no such thing as "pure christianity"
Not anymore, no. All living incarnations are mutations from its original source.

It's closer to the early interpretations of the texts, that's for sure. But can we really decisively say it's closer to "true christianity"? I think there's an argument to be made that if the character Jesus Christ ever did live, he would've preferred the other one. And as we all know Jesus Christ is god, so that's an authority over any preacher or apostle.

>Not anymore, no. All living incarnations are mutations from its original source.
I don't really share the idea that at some point there was this complete and untouched christianity that ever since has been degrading. The bible is a series of writings by many different authors that were compiled over time and interweave with one another. It's a tough book to decipher, that's why people still find it interesting. In my mind just because one interpretation came first that doesn't make it the pure or clean one. Those early interpretations were just as much products of their time and incorporated existing beliefs from "outside christianity".

With something like scientology etc. you could argue there was a point where it was "pure", because it all came from the head of one guy but that's not how christianity got started. My analogy is weak but you wouldn't argue a thousand year old map to be more accurate than a modern one just became it came first. Interpreting text is not completely unlike mapping something.

>I don't really share the idea that at some point there was this complete and untouched christianity that ever since has been degrading.
>The bible is a series of writings by many different authors that were compiled over time and interweave with one another.
My dude... Christianity started as Jewish cult with a few dudes, the bible was not even around at the time. The bible is ALSO a result of Christianity mutating and evolving, you know.

My analogy is weak but you wouldn't argue a thousand year old map to be more accurate than a modern one just became it came first.
I would actually, because modern maps are not accurate representations of geographical landmass (in global context).

Forgot to meme arrow this
>My analogy is weak but you wouldn't argue a thousand year old map to be more accurate than a modern one just became it came first.

Shame on me, but I am tired and drunkish

Leftists when arguing against christianity:

>Christianity is evil! Just look at all the evil right wing stuff in the old testament! ignore the new testament, look at how right wing the old one is!

Leftists when arguing against the right wing, using christianity:

>Christianity is left wing! Just look at the new testament! You right wingers need to start being left wing, it's what God wants!

OP: You are a fedora tipping retard. Giving away your country is a bad thing.

>All those people you treated fairly because [insert religion] told you to
Like that's what's happening all over the world now and throughout history.