United Europe

I'd rather not be controlled by the French and Germans

Doesn't really matter. For now it's growing. You could say the same to the US or any other Federal State. Why would you ask this to yourself? Isn't it still better to be backed by alot, than just yourself?

Common, that's utter bullshit. Just look at the percentage of mendates we have. It's about 8% of decisions. In addition, we have less power, because muh small states said, we need more power.

>Germans and the French wanting to control over europe
some things never change

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America is not our enemy.

>Small countries have as much saying as Germany and France
oh no he actually believes this HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
youtube.com/watch?v=SpwGkfdPNlI

how do europeans keep falling for this every time

Just count it yourself together, we have 12% to say in the union

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you are retarded, give a decent argument, or leave this union, if you like Russia so much, nobody will miss you

>the europarl is relevant meme
gawd

>That's why Greece doesn't leave
In reality we voted out in 2015

>why yes those countries with 100 smaller economies have as much of saying as us in EU yeah totally xD
oh no he actually believes this HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I guess germans are incapable of basic logic

>he isn't a European federalist

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You didn't your gov didn't accept your vote. It's your gubments fault, not the fault of the EU.

>why yes those countries with 100 bigger economies wouldn't absorb smaller countries into their control believe me xD
>WOOOOOOO EU army we'd have to spend less money that way
>uses sticks and non working submarines

Because normally, France, Netherlands, Demark, Belgium, Germany, Luxemburg, Austria, Spain, Italy and Portugal are in close opinion, maybe concerning the things in the union? If you would have more inhabitants than 500k you would probably get more seats. Why would you have more power than a country with 60 million people?

that's exactly why everything should stay as it is so that small countries wouldn't get controlled by bigger countries like germany and france

>UK flag in the sails

piss off frog

Yes and who actually benefits from this?
Oh increase "your" fucking GDP?
Where does this increase go?
If you want your cultures erased, even less democratic representation and even more economic inequality while they tell you how great everything is going because the giant investors are doing great... go ahead and welcome to the USE.

That's right. But under e""""u"""" pressure and threats of sanctions too. Never forget that detail.

That's how every Federal State works. If you would live in one, you would understand it. You are free to leave.

So what is it, do you want support or not?
swissinfo.ch/eng/reuters/lithuania-wants-more-nato-anti-aircraft-missiles-to-deter-russia/44063346
army.mil/article/181668/german_army_departs_grafenwoehr_to_support_nato_in_lithuania

>yeah you really would have less control over your country
oh yeah convincing smaller countries to join your union will surely work that way merkel xD
but yeah we'd rather milk you for money and quit later

>german military
no thanks
and NATO is USA you are just a joke compared to them

Nobody convinced you here. We would be better of without the eastern countries. You begged to join. I still see it as good. Also, we didn't invent the EU. And we don't have much to say alone either. And get off your high horse and ask yourself, if you would be better off alone.

>, if you would be better off alone.
Would you? If yes, nobody is holding you, right?

I don't care. Just leave and you will find out.

>why would Lithuania ever quit Soviet Union you have as much saying as Russia and we built you hospitals roads and shieeet xD
>EU without Eastern countries
>UK already quit
nice union you'd have there xD

>why do the most valuable regions of the union with the most money and the most people have the most power

Fuck off, retard. Your presence in the EU is a privilege that we can revoke. We are the reason for the continued existence of your fucking country, and we can decide to no longer prolong the existence of Bulgaria whenever we fucking want.

Which is why we don't do a popular vote here.
People across wide complicated regions don't have the same issues

>and NATO is USA
no it's not, they're by far the most powerful but they don't want to spend money and watch out over every member themselves, that's why this alliance exists...
>you are just a joke compared to them
I know we're less powerful but we can still contribute. What's your point, do you only want to insult Germany?

>Why does Russia had the most power in soviet union you weren't opressed xD

Why yes. It makes absolute fucking sense that russia being the most powerful state of the USSR had the most power. If you don't think that you have braindamage.

oh yeah germany military oh yes the mighty germany military do you still have a single running tank? xD
>I know we're less powerful
nah you're a complete joke even when compared to France or UK
Have to thank Hitler for losing the war and making such pussies out of you xD

which is why Soviet Union collapsed you tard XDDDD

>Bulgaria

>will find out.
Find out what exactly?
And what do you mean by i don't care? I asked you something specific.

I'm not strictly against it but it wouldn't be a good deal for nordics. We would end up subsidizing eastern/southern euros.

United Europe?

No thanks, i don't want to feed barbarian hegemonic will again

>ridicules the army that his country wants for defense
So it's the latter. Grow up.

No, my underage fag. It's because Gorbachev gave too much power to the inferior soviet republics, and because they were communists.

Are you retarded? You give me a counter question instead of an answer. And now I answered you that, I wouldn't care about the slightest what happened, if Greece or Lithuania for instance would leave. I guarantee you that nothing here would happen, the same as UK left. What are you going to do? Sell olive oil like Tunesia?

I would tbqh

Pay money to who lmfao? We're still the 3rd eu economy even with our useless south.

>germany military
>protecting anyone but the muslims
xD
oh no this guy is actually retarded xDDDDDDD

>that one lithuanian idiot ITT
wew lad

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not until 2019

>that one pole ITT
xD
*insert reddit gif laugh here*
xDDDDDD

I want a United Europe so we can stand up to China and USA etc

What's Italy's influence in the EU like?
People meme about France and Germany dominating shit, but can Italy do that too?

Honestly from my perspective I find it silly to think you can govern the people of the Netherlands, and the people of Poland under the same laws, and have it be efficient.

Too many differences in the economies, and social culture of European countries.

We have nothing in common with wh*Toids and slavs. We belong to different races, speak different languages, have different cultures, different mindsets, etc.

this it's merely a 4chin meme

based

Yes man. Lombardy is rich, or you fell for ''muh idalee iz poor i zeen the gofather'' american meme?

oh no please stop saying the truth

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you seem to have lots of different cultures in the US too

An italexit would be a fatal economical collapse for the Union. Unlike some irrelevant othern eastern (but not only) states.

But hey, ''they're whaid unlike you ihihi that's what matter 11!11!!!''

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Italy

he mad

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I'm not against it, but the corrupt, shady, unaccountable tyranny we've ended up with needs bringing down.

They are actually big contributors. Italy and Spain are one of the biggest economies.

i want to see that economic collapse NOW!!!
Bankers would go MAD #exIT

>Sell olive oil like Tunesia?
It's not like there's anything left now, and we're in this """"union"""" eh?
Funny, but seems like most people lost their industry to some other people after the e""""u"""" arose.
Society moves on by people who act and nothing remains static for long and if it does, it dies. Your pathetic attempts on fear mongering aren't scaring anybody anymore.

To some degree yes, and I think some decentralization could benefit us in many ways. We aren't nearly to the same degree that Europe is though. For example we all speak the same damn language, and don't have to invest time into learning multiple languages to efficiently do business.

Are you telling me these meme graphs people keep posting lied to me?

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No because retarded /pol memes aside this collapse will bring my country back 100 years and your probably 200. And the whole continent fucked up.

Are you ridiculing yourself. What did you produce before? You were bankrupt before the union, ohh, who would've guessed that. Also, Poland and other countries like, yes Lithuania or Greece get massive financial support.

the british were supposed to lead the project. way to pussy out

Yes, and where do you see Italy?

Between Italy, France, Germany, Spain and potentially Poland your nation's stance on any particular issue should be represented. You would be acting as a swing state.

>probably
yours will go back to the stone ages KEK, now take denbts and pay your german masters.

>You were bankrupt before the union
lmao
>these are the people who defend the e""""u""""

I never will understand why some Euros seem to want the whole thing to collapse.
Like shit, that's going to fuck you up a lot, maybe hoping for reforms and the like before you burn it all down?

German master to who? We contribute more with money than all you eastern ziganos.

Pablo you're not the most stable ones whom should judge us, plus an economic collapse will be beneficial so refugees ''can move to the land of the free'''.

Because we don't like this new German Reich.

and you still have a poor south... SAD.

Italy is like equivalent, like France and the rest of our bros in the EU

Why would you want to give more power to the EU after the shitshow that was the glyphosate question?

I'm all for a united europe. But only if I'm the only one that calls the shots.

Common, this can happen in your own country too. We had similar food issues. The thing is that consumer assistance offices can't react to everything immediatelly when it can be anything.

>be top tier country
>some retard from a fake country called Macedonia filled with retarded people asks me why I don't want to unite with retards

>Germany is all about eco friendly and sustainable practices
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN GLYPHOSATE CAUSES CANCER? I'M NOT BANNING IT FUCK YOU

>react
The fuck are you talking about. Glyphosate is used since 1974.

>Berlin abstained earlier, but threw its weight behind a decision opposed by France.
>Poland, Bulgaria and Romania, all did likewise, leaving only Portugal still on the fence on Monday. Had any of the others continued to abstain, deadlock would have gone on.
>Greece approves Monsanto's glyphosate weedkiller for 5 years
retard

doesn't disapprove your hypocrisy

>wanting to be in the same country trat gives asylum to ETA terrorist and that dont want to give us the guy who wanted to break up our country

With the last one you have kill the europeism in Spain.

You are full supporters of Glyphosate. Don't act like an innocent sheep, while we actually tried to do something against it.

(((american))) masters