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Yes hunt GAME not domesticated gmo grain fed mutant animals that need metal supports to mate.

I eat ground turkey (grassfed) and wild fish. I don't touch mammals and honestly pork and cow don't taste as good. I'd rather have marinated turkey or a portabella cap that tastes better than steak to me.

Appeal to nature faggot.
If we were adapted to eat meat we wouldn't all be dying of heart disease, obesity, cancer, diabetes.

First of all, not all Vegans eat soy you fucking murder munching mantard.

Why don't you try being Vegan for a week? I tried eating meat and dairy for a week. Then I realized that the human body isn't meant to process another animals fucking titty jizz milk and digest the rotting flesh of an animal. I felt like shit because I wasn't letting mother nature power me.

No wonder Americans are fucking disgusting and fat.

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That's strange OP most vegetarians and vegans I've met in my life are skinny as fuck, low testosterone beta males, with absolutely nothing remarkable about them.

You are NOT hunting by eating battery farmed chicken AHAHAHA only an American would come out with that shit.
You have been fed a lie by your corrupt government you dumb brainlet. We are frugivorous and not designed for huge amounts of meat consumption. Btw meat is pumped full of hormones such as estrogen

Educate yourself or stay sick because you ARE sick if you are not vegan

youtube.com/watch?v=LTdYYjo4hko

How Not to Die: Discover the Foods Scientifically Proven to Prevent and Reverse Disease by Michael Greger M.D.

youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI&t=1s

You can't just add 'peak performance when trading' and 'before you can enjoy you gains' to your shill post to make it fit in, this is 'Jow Forums - Business & Finance', not /soy/
kys

did it though? look at pick related; humans have hands perfect for picking vegetables, fruits etc, teeth built for eating foods like that. read "The China Study", it's an interesting book.

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Humans have been eating meat for centuries the proof is in our teeth and brain. Larger brains credited to meat consumption.

Vegans have higher testosterone on average. Enjoy limp dick from clogged penal arteries.

also, i'm not vegan but i limit my meat in my diet and haven't had dairy for 4+ years now.

Vegan crap no thanks

What you experienced was probably caused by the sudden diet change which your stomache is not used to but I am no doctor and neither are you to know what the human body needs.

Thanks meat for giving us smart enough brains to realise that we no longer need meat as it gives you a slow suicide and needless suffering for animals

>Haha everyone dying of heart disease, obesity, cancer, diabetes. Must be meat right? You twit. The country I live in consumes the highest quantity of meat per person yet still ranks 4th in terms of life expectancy. Just because the US has a lot of health problems and consumes a lot of meat doesn't mean anything. They also consume far more sugar and corn syrup. They also are less active.

If humans didn't learn how to make fire and cook meat for consumption then our brains would have never developed as much as they have and we would still be no better than chimps. Vegans are fucking retarded. You don't get unhealthy from eating meat. You become unhealthy from eating to many processed foods and carbohydrates. Sugar is the enemy not meat. You dumb cunts.

Yes but the goodness in meat ALL comes from the PLANTS that we feed the animal. You can skip the process of eating meat and just consume the plants directly.

We can go completely without meat and should do. The meat they sell in supermarkets is POISONED very literally with faeces, hormones, arsenic, lead etc. It is making you very sick

If every person was a vegan we would devastate the ecosystem trying to have enough farm land to sustain our food supply. You're a goddamn moron.

As I said, you are the one missing out. It makes no difference to me but before dismissing it completely check out these resources so you can at least say you are informed of whats really going on

Why then in Australia do they consumer by far the highest amount of meat per person yet have the 4th highest life expectancy.

This is COMPLETELY incorrect. Agriculture is the biggest cause of pollution and is decimating our ecosystem. We are growing enough plants to get everyone out of starvation however the plants we produce go to the endless amount of livestock we have. We are choosing to feed the animals over our fellow humans in the name of profit

What do we feed animals moron. We grow enough food for 10 billion people but waste it by feeding it to animals while letting people starve

>((((reading books or watching some documentaries))))

typical normie filty that believes everything he reads or sees

>enough food for 10 billion

YOU MEAN JUST CORN? YEAH OKAY DUMBASSES

Answer my question

The irony here is that you are the one who has been brainwashed. Look at the science and you will be furious at how mislead you were by the institutions you thought cared about your wellbeing. Please don't fall for Jow Forums bait if you want to be healthy mentally and physically

I'm from aus. We are 1st world with socialist healthcare. Egg and dairy are as bad as meat. Stop looking at cognitive bias to support your bad habit.

There are other factors at play here such as great healthcare, active lifestyles, vitamin d exposure, low stress etc. but that life expectancy would be even higher if everyone were vegan.

But you are missing the point. If there weren't BIILLIONS upon BILLIONS of animals to be fed with our corn that space could be used to grow endless other whole-foods for our consumption

As much as I like to disagree what OP posted is in fact scientifically accurate.

Educate yourself people. Karma points are yours today OP.

Hey OP, i've been thinking about going vegan for a while now. I get the studies and the mentality but.. I work out 4-6 times a week and need muh protein.

I've been mostly eating chicken and eggs + protein shakes but i won't be able to get the neccesary protein's without the meat.

If you got a alternative i will consider.

(stopped eating pork and cow etc a long time ago).

"Great" life expectancy, but honestly you need to look at "healthy/independent" life expectancy.

Get outta here, ya flat-earther fuck

what's your protein requirement?

Why can't you eat just the eggs and the shakes? Just increase them accordingly

Protein is ONLY found in PLANTS

The protein in animals is from the plants we feed them

You can easily get the protein you need by consuming a vegan diet. Eat lentils, beans, veg, quinoa for protein.

Great health care? Our health care is pretty average, unless you have private health care. If meat is as bad for you as you say it is, surely we wouldn't be able to compensate for the health impacts simply by having some okay health care and an active lifestyle. Haha you sound like such a pompous wanker as if you are above cognitive bias and are just impartial. Based on your previous posts you clearly are some ideologue who believes the science is completely settled on veganism.

That diet would make me kill myself after 3 days. Keep eating your chicken mate here's a good recipe tasty.co/recipe/chicken-gyros . Damnnn that's one tasty bird.

>Nature intended
kek

>knee-jerk reaction masking ignorance
raw-carnivore is the ultimate diet. the near end of the dietetic journey, just before transhumanist modes of nourishing start coming into play.

I thought the same but my palette adjusted after about two weeks of a vegan diet. Now nothing is more appealing that the type of food in the OP

The chicken and eggs we are being sold is poisoned and dangerous for us. I hope you learn that someday

You vegtards really are attention whores. "Uu look at me, i eat plants and trade, your diet is shit" fucks sake man

It’s panDEMONium in dis bish. Fuck off... animal meats have superior proteins.

A nice grass fed Aussie steak is 1000 times better than a plate of lentils.

>Bitcoin adopter since 2013 because I saw an advert for Bitcoin on a pot of hummus

my sides have left the building

Except no one just eats a plate of lentils brainlet
If you could learn how to actually cook then just flopping a shitty steak on a barbie with some microwaved veggies which is probably what all you can do, you could whip up some epic meals

Im slowly swapping over, just have a chicken burger now and then
I’ve started to realise how many aussie families can’t cook for absolute shit
All they’ve been conditioned to cook is meat and they can’t even understand the concept of not having meat with a meal it’s pathetic
Fuck vegans who constantly push it in your head and argue about it 24/7 but at least educate yourself on it instead of blindly saying muh hunter evolution

Literally feel 100x better compared to before when I was pumping meat and dairy all the time especially with gym training
Legit look just as good as my mates pumping steroids and meat all the time cause muh protein

been in your shoes before and boy glad I’m not in it now, have an open mind for once

do you actually believe what u type?
the proteins found in different vegetables and the proteins in meat are completely different. just as whey protein is completely different from casein protein.

Kek you fell for the protein meme
Protein is protein, you’re over complicating it
My mates pump meat all day every day for gym
Whereas I just get it from plants 90% of the time
We train the same and we progress the same
you’re just retarded

pls give meal ideas for brekky lunch and tea

Honestly cooking books are your friends
Helped me a fuck load
Check out
The thug kitchen series, sick food and simplified for normies
and mad meals you can make for your mates or family and they won’t be like “what the fuck is this”
Once you get the hang of cooking like I did, you get the hang of it easier
For Indian, vegan Richa Indian book
And definitely, the minimalist baker everyday cooking
Bunch of epic burgers and shit in there

>cooking food
>ever
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_glycation_end-product
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction

Vegan diets are actually generally pretty unhealthy...do some research in case you still think the saturated fat/cholesterol scaremongering from the 70's is relevant.

:)

One word...SUGAR

BRAP

This.
Anyone who ignores natural evolution and organism predesposition is a fucking brainlet and should keep indulging in high soy content and low animal protein sources and eventually get real depression and muscle atrophy

Pic related, what soyboys need to take to avoid serotonin deficiency

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did nature intend for you to (((hunt))) battery farmed chickens, with more chemicals in them than the Bogdanoff's cheeks?

>Implying I'm a USA drone who shops at wallmart
I only eat animals raised close to me in open air. Of course I can afford to do that because I don't live in MegaCorp land

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that's much closer to the intent than eating shit-beans dug out of the ground that are only edible after a week of cooking.

in that case, fair enough
pic related can be applied to this thread, not just crypto

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Me agree actually
Not on being vegan
But unless diet well rounded and mostly greens then you not trading 100%
Sugar and digestion alter consciousness in negative effects

I'm vegan and don't ever really eat soy products. I don't really like the taste that much. Other than some tempeh every once in a while, but that's fermented so the feminizing stuff is gone.

At the very least stop eating dairy. Meat, fair enough if you must, hunted or grass fed cattle or other high quality meats are probably good for you in moderation, and fish. Dairy on the other hand has no redeeming qualities.

Checked my cryptoveganbro.

Why be vegan?
>frugality
Vegan food is _a lot_ cheaper than animal foods. One pound of beans = 2 usd maybe, one pound of meat = twice that at least.

>better for your body
Animal foods are subject to bioaccumulation, meaning that toxins accumulate in animals much more so than in plants tissue, meaning that you get loss toxins from vegan food.

There are also a lot of research that tells us that vegan food is better for the heart, the liver, it's antiinflammatory etc etc.

>environmentally friendly
I don't care about this myself, but some greencucks might like that fact.

>it's humane
The old greeks said: "As long as we kill animals, we will kill each other".

Animal murder on the scale we are doing rn is beyond any morality. It's disgusting quite frankly.

Is this /fit or /biz?

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>not realizing every board is in some way related to business and is therefore on the Jow Forums continuum

>implying Jow Forums indulges in degenerate vegan practices

Bait will be saged

Check the quads.

Meat is cancer. I laugh at the fat fucks everyday that can't live without it and see how they will age and die so early haha.

Fucking fell for the rich king eats meat meme.

I just pop creatin pills.

desu im not a vegan but its true vegan diet is the best. i eat lots of legumes and raw nuts and seeds but sometimes i eat baked goods and stupid fat people food like pizza -.-

Veganism is the superior way.

It's more healthy, ethical and better for the environment than sheepish carnism. Vegans are people who can think for themselves instead of clogging their arteries with poison because a livestock lobbying group said so.

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>it's an episode of bagholders who aren't too poor to afford meat

I remember when Sam Harris said he was trying to go vegan (or vegetarian?) because of moral reasons but his doctor told him it's destroying his health too much and he has to go back to eating like a heterosexual man

>doctor told him

Doctors aren't given proper courses in nutrition in medical school. His doctor told him that because he doesn't know what he's fucking talking about.

Whatever was 'destroying' his health wasn't veganism provided he was actually doing it properly. This is such a dangerous myth

>your results are in mr Harris
>you should ignore them, they mean nothing

Thank you for making this thread OP. I've been vegan for 3 years now and after you start really digging into the science behind it and research, you realize it really is a major redpill.

I can't believe how dumb people are when it comes to nutrition and the protein meme, especially these days when you have more and more athletes becoming vegan for the boost in performance. You have hundreds of more research papers and doctors coming out to say the benefits of it and the negative factors of meat consumption.

But most people (like I was), are too comfortable in their ways and don't want to waste energy thinking about their food if they have other shit in life to worry about.

Just sit back and keep doing what you're doing, and enjoy watching more of the world wake up to the reality of things.

7% of people in the US and UK now identify as vegan based on a survey in 2017, milk consumption is at record lows, and you even have meat giants like Tyson foods starting their own plant-based brands.

The world is changing to a more sustainable and healthier diet. You can either keep spouting nonsense, or accept that maybe what you've been taught in school and by commercials isn't 100% true.

>doctor doesn't *really* know about the human body

>some room temperate IQ retard on a Samoan pinochle forum does however

Sage. We need meat and fish and eggs dickhead. Fuckin vegans baka.. Don’t get me wrong, battery hens, animal cruelty is fucked but you can’t deny your DNA the basic nutrition it needs as it has for millions of years.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27886704/

"It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes."

health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/becoming-a-vegetarian

"Traditionally, research into vegetarianism focused mainly on potential nutritional deficiencies, but in recent years, the pendulum has swung the other way, and studies are confirming the health benefits of meat-free eating. Nowadays, plant-based eating is recognized as not only nutritionally sufficient but also as a way to reduce the risk for many chronic illnesses."

bda.uk.com/foodfacts/vegetarianfoodfacts.pdf

You're wrong, where are your sources that say you need meat fish and eggs?

hello newfriend

eating vegan now

feels divine

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Also want to add a few sources that show how it's a net benefit for the environment and world in general, not just your health.

ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/660S.full

wri.org/blog/2016/04/sustainable-diets-what-you-need-know-12-charts

"the gap between the average American’s daily protein needs and amount they’re already getting from plant sources is less than the equivalent of one chicken breast (4 oz, 35 g of protein)."

pnas.org/content/111/33/11996.full

Land required to feed 1 person for 1 year:
Vegan: 1/6th acre

Vegetarian: 3x as much as a vegan

Meat Eater: 18x as much as a vegan [xvii]

Robbins, John. Diet for a New America, StillPoint Publishing, 1987, p. 352

Animal agriculture contributes to species extinction in many ways. In addition to the monumental habitat destruction caused by clearing forests and converting land to grow feed crops and for animal grazing, predators and "competition" species are frequently targeted and hunted because of a perceived threat to livestock profits. The widespread use of pesticides, herbicides and chemical fertilizers used in the production of feed crops often interferes with the reproductive systems of animals and poison waterways. The overexploitation of wild species through commercial fishing, bushmeat trade as well as animal agriculture’s impact on climate change, all contribute to global depletion of species and resources. [XIX]

This is hilarious because this always happens whenever I actually start using sources for my arguments online. Discussion always ends because nobody ever has a counter with their own source that states otherwise.

I have never actually been able to continue a discussion about veganism past this point because non-vegans prefer to use ancedotal evidence and opinions compared to facts, and when they do state "facts", they don't even have anything to actually back it up so we can get a good debate going.

They claim to know more about nutrition and food than the vegans they argue against, which is laughable because most vegans I know and talk with online are the ones actually doing research into nutrition and food, unlike other people that just eat whatever tastes good and follow the food pyramid picture from middle school.

Get fucked every hour of the day. If someone actually wants to respond to me with a counter argument for any of the above, let me know, otherwise shut the fuck up.

my retard american friends:
you have to eat some meat, not much and not the mcdonals type but free roaming grassfed animals and wild meat. Yes it is more expensive but you don't need much. Refined carbs and sugar is the real enemy.

>blocks your path

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OP is a faggot

Source to counter this?

A couple who allegedly kept their 20-month-old daughter on a strict vegan diet, which left her malnourished and suffering rickets, have pleaded not guilty to child neglect.

It is understood the child was acutely deficient of vitamin D, vitamin B12, zinc and iron.

Yeah, they're bad parents. Where are the parents on trial that have 200lb kids in 1st and 2nd grade from feeding them fast food for years?

pfft patron since 2005 here faggot

>Balanced diet master race

>be me
>skinnyfat
>go vegan because of documentaries
>eat everything raw, no wheat or white sugar
>lose 10 pounds in 3 months, even though I eat the same amount of calories as before
>no energy
>weak
>erectile dysfunction
>sick all the time
>depressed
>see doctor
>'you are prediabetic and have terrible lipid counts user, you need to eat less sugar and fat and get more exercise'
>mfw i was running 15 miles a week and mostly eating huge garden salads, avocado, yams, nuts, tofu etc
>friend shills me on Keto
>try it out because fuck plants
>eat anything with a ton of fat, moderate amounts of meat
>6 mos. Pass
>gain 10 pounds of muscle, maintain 15%bf or below
>beetus numbers are all godlike
>Test is higher than it ever was
>enough energy to lift and make gains
>less depressed, more sociable
Veganism is trash.