SWEDEN YES

Better to be irrelevant than to be relevant for being a warmongering shithole.

WTF sweden!!!?? Europe is truly over

>Swedish meatballs are actually Turkish
lmao no
Swedish are Swedish. That's why the adjective "Swedish" is in there. There are meatballs from all over Europe and they are all unique one way or another. No Turks have at any point made and eaten meatballs the way they are done here on a large cultural scale.

>the absolute state of modern """"journalism""""

based

>live in a freezing climate where plants are less abundant
>people somehow assume you haven't invented a fucking meatball

>Sweden says

>It's mine because it has my name on it, ignoring the fact it can be stolen first.
Too bad there wasn't patents back then.
Now I know how Brazilians feel about the plane.

They may seem as Swedish as Ikea and Abba, but Sweden has admitted its iconic meatballs actually originate from Turkey.

The country's official Twitter account tweeted: “Swedish meatballs are actually based on a recipe King Charles XII brought home from Turkey in the early 18th century. Let's stick to the facts!”

Known as "köfte" in Turkey, the minced meat pressed into a ball and - in Sweden - topped with gravy, is a popular dish around the world.

Responses to the tweet varied from dismay, to celebration of the truth coming to light.

King Charles XII used food as a way to help boost the relationships between the two countries.

After losing a war with Russia in the early 1700s, the king was exiled in the Ottoman Empire near Bender Moldova for five years before coming back to Sweden. Along with meatballs, he brought coffee and stuffed cabbages, specialities from Istanbul.

GAAAAAAAAY

Here is real Swedish food from 500

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Russian hipsters call that meatballs instead of Frikadellen borrowed from German two centuries ago...

so is it like saying every japanese ramen is 100% chinese origin?

although all japanese agree its origin is china. seems like the problem here is that the govt officially defined it as if the original stuff is absolute and supreme, in that "cultural appropriation" way.

Why is anyone surprised Sweden doesn't really have their balls?

>their balls are KARA BOĞA in origin
based sweden

That's like saying there aren't [insert nationality here] houses because someone else invented modern architecture. Even if someone came before, that doesn't mean that another culture can't make it their own. Italians would never consider pasta from other cultures Italian, for example.

>Known as "köfte" in Turkey, the minced meat pressed into a ball and - in Sweden - topped with gravy, is a popular dish around the world.
Köfte is an umbrella term that comes from Persian 'kufte' and includes not only meatballs, but meatloaves and minced meat steaks etc. And Köfte exists all over the Balkans, Greece and even Iran. The Turkish meatball recipe does not exactly match the Swedish one, and in the places that it does - our local ingredients are still different from their equivalents in Turkey, because you know... different climate and access to things, substitutes etc.

You can attribute the origin of meatballs wherever you want, but Swedish meatballs are Swedish. Literally only Swedes make and eat them this way, and the only similarities can be found with Norwegian and Danish meatballs (because Scandinavians are similar - who would have thought?).

Because the government lied about it for centuries until someome bring facts to the table.
Now it brings doubt about what others cultures do european countries stole.

It is more in a Sweden has gotten everything from outside of Sweden. A Swede once said, "Only barbarism is Swedish, the rest of the development comes from outside".

>The country's official Twitter account
Really amazing that the bastard who wrote this article used this as some authority as that Twitter profile is given to random people to run every week.

>A Swede once said, "Only barbarism is Swedish, the rest of the development comes from outside".

>Reinfeldt
>Swede

And even if he was, he was our prime minister and thus was politically motivated ($$$) to be a retard.

>minced pork and beef rolled into the shape of a ball
>HURR DURR IT'S CLEARLY TURKISH
Don't tell me you're actually this retarded Jow Forums.

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Chinese people invented the gunpowder and its invention is now widely used around the world for guns and pyrotechnics, No one forbid other countries to use their invention.
Why would anyone forbid something their country invented in the first place?
Just saying give credit where credit is due, you can still have their invention but facts are more important.

It's said that the king of Sweden brought them from Konstantinople but it's not like people weren't making meatballs before the turks.

Barbarism isn't the only Swedish thing but it exists deep inside of us, he is right about that.

@swedense if different from @sweden

@sweden is given to a new person every week (even one of /ourguys/ from Sverigetråden had it once), but this post was made on @swedense - managed by the guys who run sweden.se.

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It was actually a poet a long time ago.

What kind of comparison? It's awfully specific, whereas minced meat rolled into various shapes (including balls) are awfully easy to think of and stems from various places in the world.

So nobody ever rolled a meatball until the king went to Turkey?

>What kind of comparison?
is that*

Whoops

And even more so
>nobody had thought of mincing meat and shaping it to a manageable lump until the 1700s

So what is the best thing to have with Swedish meatballs? The argument is cool and all but that pic is activating the mutt hunger.

>Known as "köfte" in Turkey, the minced meat pressed into a ball and - in Sweden - topped with gravy, is a popular dish around the world.
You don't use eggs in kofta and it isn't made partially out of minced pork. Not to mention the fact that kofta is more common in the stick shape where it can be barbecued. It's also a lot drier and has more herbs and spices than Swedish meatballs.

Lingonsylt and half mashed potatoes with a sauce based on grädde.

We kara boga now

Is curry Japanese too?

That sweet shit with carrots and beef is definitely Japanese.

>Swedish meatballs are actually Turkish
NOOOOOO. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!

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thanks buddy

Potates, pealed and boiled
Brunsås (brownsauce)
sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunsås (there was no English page for this)
And lingonsylt (Lingonberry jam)

You can also have mashed or half mashed as this dude says, but I prefer my boiled potatoes/potato halves.

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Meatsballs are overrated anyway. They can have it.

Half mashed covered with gräddsås (creame sauce?) is 10/10. I don't really like brunsås though, it's too heavy and thick.

It is used to imply nothing ever came out of Sweden but I don't think the writer actually thought Sweden never produced anything on its own. More like that we became civilised compared to vikings when we got christianised and Latin letter and so on.

>Half mashed covered with gräddsås (creame sauce?) is 10/10.
Haven't tried that 2bh, and would hardly consider it traditional. Brunsås is always the sauce of choice for "general idea" of what to serve with Swedish meatballs.

>it's too heavy and thick.
That's what it is supposed to be. If a sauce turns to a puddle on your plate, then it has failed as a sauce.

I just read the poem now and it says, "only barbarism was once Swedish(fosterländskt?)". So they seriously misuse it.

Spaghetti and meat sauce is the most common meal in Sweden anyway. Meatballs is just a brand and spread worldwide by IKEA.

>That's what it is supposed to be. If a sauce turns to a puddle on your plate, then it has failed as a sauce.
Nope that's where the mashed potatoes come in to suck up the sauce. You should try it out some time because it's surprisingly good.

>Spaghetti
Italy, where are you?!?!?, someone is trying to apropiate yor culture!!!!!

We never said we were the first who made chocolate. We were the first who made it tasty for almost everyone though

>mesoamericans
>coffee

yeah i feel this is the same shit as the trend of cultural appropriation. its hood but basically the same. the statement would be "this shit is turkish, so yall gotta respect turks and their culture and must not claim its swedish"

all japnaese recognise it as indian food. but as this swede says, "japanese curry" is recognised as an offshoot of the original too.

Leftist journalists pull this shit all the time, especially when we start to get close to our national holiday. They always want to say that there doesn't exist anything unique to Swedishness so it doesn't matter if we import 13 trillion niggers into our country.
>lol swedish has german and french loanwords, swedish language doesn't exist :)
>lol saint lucy was a catholic from sicily, swedish traditions don't exist :)
>lol sweden has been unified with other countries such as norway and finland throughout history, a unique swedish ethnicity doesn't exist :)

swedes thinking they invented meatballs is the most retarded irl meme i've ever heard. literally lmao

aren't swedish meatballs made of pork? Danish meatballs are a mixture of veal and pork

What are you even complaining about? The only statement of this tweet are that the roots of this dish is Turkish. Not that Swedenballs itself are Turkish.

>>lol saint lucy was a catholic from sicily, swedish traditions don't exist :)
I hate this shit so fucking much. Lucia (light) is a pagan celebration and even the long standing Christian incarnation of it is a symbolic pagan practice, despite being made out to celebrate some random saint that no one here gives a shit about.

A few years ago I was actually banned from some leftist cuckist Facebook page for explaining exactly why the woman donning the Lucia title and main outfit should be a blonde Scandinavian woman and not a brunette and certainly not a woman of a different race.

>Not that Swedenballs itself are Turkish.
That's what the OP article, and poster in this thread, say, which is a claim we challenge.

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Why bring politics into everything?
So stating facts are now leftist,zionist,alien,astronomical propaganda?
Lol, you don't like facts when it doesn't go your way, do you?

Because they use anything they can to shit on Swedes and it gets annoying.

How dare those Turkish mongrels take away such a sophisticated, unique invention from white Aryan Swedes like this?! Truly, no one has ever though about mincing meat and rolling it into balls before Swedes! The mistake of diversity!

#Sweden YES

>aren't swedish meatballs made of pork?
What? The minced meat can be made of beef, pork or both. There is no common practice deciding which, but I think most that I have eaten (made by family members) are made of minced beef or mixed.

Blandfärs which is a mix between beef and pork is the standard.

Ah alright, I mixed something up then.

You shouldn't get annoyed by a mutt post. Their culture is literally deep fried butter and corn on the cob eating challenges

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If you type this in google:
Chocolate from
It appears germany and switzerland, the thing that bothers most countries is the popular belive of associating other countries instead of their original creators.
I dream for one day to type
Meatballs in google and turkey appears as related
The same as chocolate from mexico
And plane from brazil.

No, it doesn't bother me that much. I actually happened to know that meatballs and cabbage rolls in Sweden were the result of Karl XII:s exile in Bender, Moldova before all this.
>So stating facts are now leftist,zionist,alien,astronomical propaganda?
No. And I don't have any issues with accepting that our culture, as well as most cultures, have some aspects in them that are borrowed from elsewhere. But it is fact that left-minded journalists pull these arguments every year and use them against any celebration of Swedishness and any claim that Swedishness exists.

>I dream for one day to type
>Meatballs in google and turkey appears as related
Meatballs from Turkey is just one of many (and I mean MANY) incarnations of fucking shaped minced meat. Even cultures who have never been in contact with the Turks or the Ottoman Empire have a rendition of them.

You're right.

Also, what the fuck are you on about? Googling "Chocolate from" just brings a Wiki article stating Olmecs as the earliest users and some recipes.

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Google auto complete says germany and switzerland, before you type enter after you write chocolate from.

Let's just put this to rest now. Swedish meatballs are not Turkish, regardless if they are based on Turkish recipes or not.

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>chocolate from kingston
what

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So? That means people generally search for chocolate from Germany and Switzerland, aka German and Swiss chocolate. Belgian chocolate is also popular worldwide.

Adding the national adjective serves a purpose you do not seem to understand. Chocolate made in Switzerland with Swiss interpretation of how it should taste and generally be makes it Swiss chocolate. It has nothing to do with the origin of chocolate, hence "Swiss chocolate" instead of just "chocolate".

>This many comments for literally nothing
Obsessed

i want out of this hellhole

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same here, thought that would be haram in turkey

we dont know what the actual agenda was. my take is they didnt intend to get something right but theyve just politicized it to retionalise/propagate modern far left ideology. if theres some ideologically biased wrong theory spreading over the country, it should be warned, but it doesnt seem like that.

I didn't know this landmass could talk

Marxist tactics.

>Sweden says
wow, I didn't know countries could talk.

those meatbölls aren't Swedish nor Turkish

they are KARA BOGA meatbölls

>a plant grows in my country so that means I’m responsible for it and not the people who actually synthesized it into candy
You are a literal nigger

why should lucia be blonde, anyways?

how do you turn it black

other countries are hive minds

Userstyles.

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How is this surprising to anyone?
Most of European dishes are of oriental origin and there's nothing political about it. Food is food.

Because she is supposed to represent Freya. In pagan times the Lucia celebration was a winter celebration of Freya returning with light to man (this is what the white gowns and candles (formerly just fire) is about). The celebration symbolically represent this by having a woman symbolizing Freya leading a trail of lightbearers. "Lucia" (light) remains since Christian latinspeaking times and the modern interpretation with some Sicilian saint is bullshit that most Swedes believe.

HELL SEGER

>tfw meatballs with cream, egg, boiled mashed potato and kryddpeppar
literally fucks all other foods in the ass