ITT: We celebrate 200 years of communism

ITT: We celebrate 200 years of communism.

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more like 0 years as real communism hasn't been tried yet

I wonder if there are genuine commie supporters in the west or they're just trolling.

100% of them are retards

There are, they just believe post-scarcity is imminent. They are literal science fiction believers.

Fuck communism.

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Elimination of the oligarchy as a class enemy. When?

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How about shrinking the fucking state that allows war.

i'm too libertarian to be a communist

>says the non-state that can't start a war

Good. Fuck state sponsored wars.

bump[

Soon hopefully

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Can we celebrate with brother Hao?

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this xD
Mostly rebellious teenagers who never experienced it.

I celebrate by waterfasting

Here it's just rebellious middle-class kid who want to fight against "society" and "the system", and boomers.

>shrinking the state means less war

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Name one major war where the state wasn't involved.

Shrink your anus

Name one major war where the human wasn’t involved.

The state is the tool used by private entities for their interest, taking it away does not take their incentive to do so, you'll only get Coca Cola death squads.
Where do you think the ressources such as oil that the U.S secured in its middle east crusade went? To the public? Oil is not even nationalized and the only ones benefiting from wars are the private sector.
Unless of course you unironically believe war isnt a product of economic interests and the U.S was there to spread democracy

There we go. It's human nature to start war so let's give more power to a small elite xD

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Yes so why give the more more power again? I'm really confused about the whole "they're very corrupt and give money to the state to do the work for them" thing and how it aligns with peace + big government.

the state*

You sure proved me wrong.
Let’s ban humans.

Because "big/small government" dichotomy is a meme pushed by the same neocons who advocate increased military spending but hate universal healthcare, as if the latter is a far more threat to muh freedom than the former.
Funding public services doesn't mean starting wars

Uh no let's just not give all the power in the world to people that have the monopoly on violent force? Just uh.. a thought..

Marx was right about the problems and wrong about the solutions.

Wtf are you talking about? The military is state owned and free healthcare doesn't exist idiot it has to be taken from the people or by printed money that will decrease the value of money.

What are the solutions then?

Then give the people a second amendment?

Killing everyone in a famine

Literally no one means "free" when they refer to universal healthcare, obviously it's funded by taxes.
and the military being state owned does not imply it will cease to exist if your ancap utopia is established, there are private military contractors after all.

the complete eradication of life in the universe

Smaller state and free market. There is no fast and snap of the finger magic solution but stopping a facility from exercising violence to people to make them bend to their solution is a good start.

That's not enough. Communism is renouwed for taking away the peoples guns in the long run, I'm not even saying it's supposed real communism right now but that tends to happen. A big state is big trouble and you deep down know it.
>Literally no one means "free" when they refer to universal healthcare, obviously it's funded by taxes.
Yes and it's been tried and failed. All it means is now the government is in control of your health and we all know they are very good at keeping people safe and healthy ofcourse.
>and the military being state owned does not imply it will cease to exist if your ancap utopia is established, there are private military contractors after all.
Who says anything about stopping the military from existing? I just want it out of the hands of a small group of elites to control it.

renowned*

How about splitting the power even more?
The power is already split in 3 parts, who not add another 3 parts and the side of the demo?

>Yes and it's been tried and failed
Elaborate

Venezuela, yes I'm using the Venezuela boogeyman come and stop me.

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>Venezuela
Tankies in 3... 2...

That doesn't work. Just look at this shit they all just tend to get corrupt.
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You're just cherry picking at this point, Venezuela is a country that was dependent on it's oil exports, obviously it would turn to shit after it's primary source of income faced a drastic market prices fall, not to mention all the political unrest in the country
Perhaps you should look to country's closer to yours, or maybe yours for that matter.
I know i'm probably talking to someone with no economic studies background who can't grasp a nuanced world view other than an idealistic outlook on the state being bad, but you need to understand that even the most hardliner free market advocates in academia realize that the state is actually needed to protect private property rights and implement anti-trust laws.
Also, economics as a field of study is never independent from it's political climate, saying that the austrian school or the keynesian is wrong isn't actually an argument since both approach the field from very different perspectives, there is a reason Keynesianism is popular in Europe while Chicago school models are more prevalent in the U.S, it depends on the populace's political leanings

>smaller state is the solution to the problem of wealth accumulating in the hands of the rich indefinitely until it causes a crisis

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>not to mention all the political unrest in the country
Geeh the big government didn't solve that one?
>Perhaps you should look to country's closer to yours, or maybe yours for that matter.
Yes I went to school with posters that said "Sharia for Belgium" because Belgium is so loving and socialist that there is no reason for them to integrate and spread their AMAZING culture around the world.
>I know i'm probably talking to someone with no economic studies background
Oh oh college student detected and it's not particularly a compliment nowadays. And my how noble of you to bring that pointless point up cause it isn't because you are losing the argument ofcourse.
>who can't grasp a nuanced world view other than an idealistic outlook on the state being bad, but you need to understand that even the most hardliner free market advocates in academia realize that the state is actually needed to protect private property rights and implement anti-trust laws.
Not really an argument since college is a joke. So only the state is allowed to break your property rights I assume?
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Also, economics as a field of study is never independent from it's political climate, saying that the austrian school or the keynesian is wrong isn't actually an argument since both approach the field from very different perspectives, there is a reason Keynesianism is popular in Europe while Chicago school models are more prevalent in the U.S, it depends on the populace's political leanings
Wait a second are you seriously saying people with different opinions exist? You're dazzling me here, please do explain oh mighty "I pay 80.000 dollars for a piece of paper to enter a facility who'se lectures are online for free and can learn everything from it from 50$ of books in the store or for free on the internet" god of intelligence.

Yes I agree we need to give a small rich group of elites the power to use neverending supplies of force instead. You sure showed me.

This but unironically

>ignores the oil exports point
>brings up muh sharia and culture when asked about public healthcare
>hurr durr college is a joke
No need to further waste my time
Maybe is more up your speed

I already said the military is a state program idiot.
>brings up muh sharia and culture when asked about public healthcare
No you didn't bring up healthcare at the point you should have written it down then and you heard my boogeyman, argument.
>hurr durr college is a joke
I'm not sure if it is in Morroco but in the west it very much is.

And cowering away from arguing isn't a good argument imo.