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idealism is at its core a misleading doctrine knowingly put forward to encourage spiritual nonsense, delusional apathy and endless philosophical wanking over what constitutes reality

what's your ontology then you seething brainlet?

trips of truth

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getting a bit worried lads
ikea said may the 6th for the delivery of my new desk but may 6th came and went

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>torrent new hd porn
>finally finishes downloading
>get my cock in my hand, giddy with the sexual excitement of a pubescent lad who just googled "naked ladies" for the first time
>open video
>audio is out of sync
for fucks sake

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the fact that idealism has lead to stupid shit doesn't disprove the basis, philosophy isn't a pragmatic thing leo strauss

marx actually thought the amount of effort that goes into a product should determine its "value". like grug-tier thinking.

*blasts chinese at high volume*

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that position assumes a crude understanding of the nature of consciousness

that fact that the consciousness appears to be incapable of altering reality is not in itself an argument against idealism

and needless to say there are mechanisms within reality that are capable of dramatically altering perception and experience

shit's real yo
no need to think about things in a silly potheaded way, it accomplishes nothing

strauss was a repulsive zionist so i wouldn't know or care what he thinks
but one look at idealism and its advocates tells me everything i need to know about who believes in it and why

well he also evidently thought that being a jew and not immediately immolating himself was acceptable too so i guess he was wrong about a lot of stuff

>ywn rape British girls and get away with it

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>it accomplishes nothing
ah yes and when did ontology really accomplish anything?

its all academic

the virgin son

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you know marx wrote a polemic against jewery called 'on the jewish question' right?

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You should delay moving out of home for as long as comfortably possible, the savings are just ridiculous.

I'd be spending 4, maybe 5 times as much if I didn't live at home

he was actually a huge self-hating jew

I appreciate your effort

>state of the White race

And you go home and you cry and you want to die...

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>ah yes and when did ontology really accomplish anything?
*checks google*
ahh
lots of words
no clear and concise keypoints

yes that might be lazy, but if they can't summarise things easily then they need to refine their arguments

>that fact that the consciousness appears to be incapable of altering reality is not in itself an argument against idealism
that's all idealism is its core though, the belief that the mind creates reality.
>and needless to say there are mechanisms within reality that are capable of dramatically altering perception and experience
they don't actually impact the world
druggies can have all sorts of hallucinations but they're just that, mental images perceived by nobody else that have no effect on the world

not self-hating enough

cool boots

>the absolute state of brainlets

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hezbollah did well in the lebanese elections
zionists fuming, pounding the walls

you're welcome to explain the point of ontology and what its applications are

Would you rather have an ugly personality, or an ugly body?

I'm pre-empting the 'well I already have both haha' posts

I love Sushi
I love Japan period
mmhmm
This tea ceremony is JROCK!
yeah
Girugamesh
oh yeah
I love anime
and manga
screeching
and gang bang
yeah
I like DDR
yeah
Smile decay
yeah

HEY

SAKURA-CON IKIMASU!

ontology is the study of the nature of existence
you're welcome

is idealism like what the guy in 1984 says when he says the party can change reality to make 2 + 2 = 5?

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yes I know that
but what's the point of that? if it has no ultimate point, why do it?
why is it worth talking about?
what are the practical applications of it? if it has no practical applications and it just ends up being incoherent rambling, what's the point?

apparently here in australia there is this bush that has leaves with these little poison spikes that are so painful to touch that i heard some lad out camping unknowingly wiped his arse with it and then shot himself rather than endure the pain

>that's all idealism is its core though, the belief that the mind creates reality
the belief that the mind creates reality yes, not the belief that "will" is capable of altering it

idealism doesn't even endorse the concept of "will" by default

>druggies can have all sorts of hallucinations but they're just that, mental images perceived by nobody else that have no effect on the world
But it demonstrates the fundamental mutability of experience

>mental images perceived by nobody else
how can you assert that anything is perceived by anyone in the same way as someone else?

in fact, how can you assert that the existence of any consciousness but your own?

the point is it determines how you structure reality, the framework of how you think about the world, look at the work and lives of people who advocated different positions and what impact it had on them, for me, I'm a materialist. It does inform my actions as for one, I don't believe in any immaterial soul and that informs my atheism *tips fedora* there are loads of ways the fundamentals of your beliefs imapact what you do (because they impact things like your ethics), the fact that you are asking that makes me think you have never really thought or read about it.

watching gomorra lads

no that's religion

Urban myth

experiencing sodom lads

you don't find it interesting to analyse the nature of your own existence?

and there are certainly practical applications, the entire hindu philosophy is based on its understanding of the nature of the self

This is the BBC. Literally a string of fucking Tweets.

bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/1a571d45-fa3c-4d15-99eb-fd6e1fc65488

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>the fact that you are asking that makes me think you have never really thought or read about it.
I have
>you don't find it interesting to analyse the nature of your own existence?

well yes, but I quickly came to the conclusion that materialism is the only thing that makes sense, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is being silly

again though: what's the point of this? materialism is clearly the only logical course of action, therefore there's no need for discussion on it

Do you ever not so much remember a bad experience as rather re-experience it?

What I mean is that maybe you didn't feel anything at the time so there was no bad feelings to recall. But now, with time and perspective, you realise the horror and it all comes anew. A patient bullet.

You dig?

paulitzer already!!

>materialism is obviously right guys just think about
ah yes thank you for your contribution

next

i hate twitter
i'll never not hate it
the whole idea of it just annoys me

i have the same sentiment about Facebook, but love Twitter

well what else could there possible be?

spirits?
trying to define consciousness as something unscientific (and more importantly: something it's not)
it's not rocket science, stop acting like a baby

>not the belief that "will" is capable of altering it
that's core to the doctrine of idealism. will, spirit, thought it's all the same really, just different terminology to place mind over matter
>But it demonstrates the fundamental mutability of experience
subjective experience, not external reality.
>how can you assert that anything is perceived by anyone in the same way as someone else?
the laws of physics, chemistry etc are not something that can be subjectively perceived differently.
>in fact, how can you assert that the existence of any consciousness but your own?
you're assuming consciousness isn't just a set of biological processes and something outside those laws

would you rather go to prison for 20 years for murder or 4 years for noncery

umm.. Neither
Next

methinks skeptical scully here is playing devils advocate

4 years a nonce, at least I can move to another country

dude fucked my gf tonight and I swear to god his dick was smaller than mine, but she and him still kept referring to as a bbc. Literally people just see a cock that's black and no matter what size it's a bbc

reee

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hate being a philosophy brainlet

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日本語を話しますか

gonna go to bed before it starts getting warm and uncomfortable

it is for brainlets
>dude thinking about stuff lmao
>dude the greeks did it lmao

make your own la
you'll match up with the prevailing state of the art thought by 90% minimum

Contemplating getting a face tattoo

I got off twitter when I noticed that the verified system produces the same hierarchies of status that exist offline, much prefer the anonymity of Jow Forums where everyone is a wanker. Before you hat me yes I know it's autistic

my philosophy: i love eating pussy and i love eating ass. Most people prefer steak but I sometimes prefer eating pussy and ass.

that's not hatworthy

90%

"i have no personality" across your dumb ass forehead

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thanks m8

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"I'm really glad there are a lot of niggers in my country"
Said no human being ever

this was a triumph

my philosophy is pints, wanks, and nice meals
they're real to me and that's all that matters
simple as

90%

i am incel and i demand sex now

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VINDALOO VINDALOO VINDALOO VINDALOO NAA NAA

>that's core to the doctrine of idealism. will, spirit, thought it's all the same really, just different terminology to place mind over matter
that may be but not the omnipotent conception of will that you have presented

its a massive jump to assert that the apparent incapability of the consciousness to alter its reality invalidates the doctrine of idealism

>subjective experience, not external reality.
assuming that reality exists separately from the consciouness

which is unverifiable given that we can directly experience "external reality"

>the laws of physics, chemistry etc are not something that can be subjectively perceived differently.
but these laws are not actually laws

they simply infer the existence of a "law" from repeatedly experienced phenomenon

causation is a construct of the consciousness

you cannot say empirically that a ball will fall to the ground every time you release it from your hand, you merely infer a causal relationship from your repeated experience of that phenomenon

>you're assuming consciousness isn't just a set of biological processes and something outside those laws
well yes that's the essence of my position

how can you empirically verify the existence of a consciousness other than your own?

i'm a self-loathing ginger

the best part about tanking in wow is that everyone follows you and you get to do all the optional things in dungeons that other tanks will skip

>/ausnz/
oh dear

Blue Zones are regions of the world where people live much longer than average.

Sardinia, Italy: A village called Seulo, located in the Barbagia of Seulo, holds the record of 20 centenarians from 1996 to 2016, that confirms it is "the place where people live the longest in the world".

The islands of Okinawa, Japan.

Loma Linda, California: Researchers studied a group of Seventh-day Adventists.

Nicoya Peninsula, Costa Rica.

Icaria, Greece: nearly 1 out of 3 people make it to their 90s.

Shared characteristics among them;
>Semi-vegetarianism
>plenty of beans and legumes
>moderate, but not heavy, excercise
>Religious
>family values

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the best part about tanking in wow is shifting the blame of your own mistakes to the healers

Just got called a European at the bureau de change

what the fuck is semi-vegetarianism?

nah this is wow in 2018
it's the healers job to heal the dps when they do something wrong, I can heal myself

>you cannot say empirically that a ball will fall to the ground every time you release it from your hand
well when that doesn't happen i may get into idealism

Ovo-lacto vegetarianism
ie: non-strict vegetarianism
or perhaps it means "mostly vegetarian diet, but occasionally will eat meat"

>high soy consumption

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GIRLS BETWEEN THE AGES OF SIX AND NINE ON THE REGULAR

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Most Americans, probably Brits too, have a meat based diet, which usually causes higher rates of obesity and heart problems. Eat lots of meat. Bacon for breakfast, turkey sandwich for lunch, steak for dinner is not unusual

hate being a mutt