The euro currency is not a g*rman scheme

Being in EU is okay. Using EUR is however absolute shittier if your economy isnt as "fast" as germany / france.

I am glad my gov decided that we will adopt € in year "never".

Germany tried to keep the whole Club Med out, knowing how these countries were printing money for decades till the Lira was worthless and the DM was a world reserve currency.

>muh reserve currency autism

>we cannot compete with the free market!

wahhhhh
Sad!

What is the currency solution for the EU to be more fair ?

I hope we never introduce euro

no common currency

dont worry croatia has no industrial production, nothing to lose

>Yuros still haven't deciphered that EU exists to create exclusive markets for German goods

Why don't you raise them? eh?

This. Euro is too hard for the south and too soft for the north. It's nothing but a political project designed to necessitate further integration.

Duh

wtf delete this

>you will never live in italy in the 80s

youtube.com/watch?v=SzlbSk9-6So

But aren't countries to devaluate their own currency as much a possible ? Is it really the only solution ?

what's the problem, it worked before for us before, it can works now

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Nice shitcoin

>the euro currency is not a g*rman scheme
We were literally blackmailed by France into the Euro in exchange for their OK to the reunification. No German politician, economist or central banker wanted to give up the Mark.

>not a g*rman scheme
>not a French scheme

Ftfy.
Sadly for them it backfired.

What the hell was going on in France back then? I mean Germany was just half a cunt, but France?

Lol, you know that we annexed an economically mismanaged post-communist shithole with a 1/4 of our population in the 90s, right?

devaluation is good if you have no reserve currency autism like the germans, it's great for exports and people dont have their money in the bank but are forced to invest them in real things.

what's your point? we have always had 1/2 of our "country" that is basically africa tier

bullshit, you were so autistic about muh reserve currency and didnt want to devaluate the mark, so we were destroying your industrial production

A coin doesn't modify industrial production, long-term policies and investments do
You're embarassing

cucked to the core by g*rmans and current politicians

no source, therefore fake

>muh ebil germans
Hang yourself
Politicians are the mirror of the population that voted for them

Then quit and make your own union? Or just Italy exit or something

>Why don't you raise them? eh?
because we don't want to become the new Gr**ce

Italexit would be the death of Italy
Honestly we should just dump the south

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Monetary_Union

>hey our gdp is getting shit because of Germany and EU
>let's separate our cunt like it's 1444
?????

>Italexit would be the death of Italy
nobody knows

We export the majority of our stuff to the EU, so higher taxes at the borders would just make our economy completely irrelevant
The two halves of the country are too different to work together well. Also Italy as a country is much younger than that, it unified in the 19th century

>We export the majority of our stuff to the EU, so higher taxes at the borders would just make our economy completely irrelevan
nothing you can't solve with devaluation

besides no euro currency doesnt mean no EU common market

Nice bait
What's with the fact that we buy a lot of oil from other countries since we are not energetically independent?

how did we do before, einstein?

Right, because they would let us in the common market anyway after an "Italexit"
Why would they?

>spending all your money now is great for the economy

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That's not an argument
How did we do it when money was not a thing in the middle ages?
Back your claims or shut up

except it does unless you have special opt out agreement

of course it is. People actually invest their money in real life things, which makes the economy grow

> the Eu / euro currency would not collapse if Italy leaves it

Yes?

Cue bubbles. Savings are pretty darn important.

If Italy were to leave it*, learn English if you want to communicate in an international website, or just stick to facebook

It would get damaged for sure, but Italy would collapse as well

u save buying real life assets not just let your money stay into the bank

Uhm, no? Their taxes are lower and they have a higher level of productivity, e-commerce and average English knowledge level

>It would get damaged for sure, but Italy would collapse as well

so they can't do anything fenocio, dio marcio

We can't as well
Welcome to international relations I guess

> I know English, therefore I am rich

More like
>my company website is in English, so it's easier to sell my stuff internationally
Are you retarded?

basta che ti fai tradure il sito da un pirla interprete per quello

idk dude I seem to find different data here

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Tell that to the average Italian
English also helps in getting internships, sharing knowledge and everything else, it's not just sales

product interiour BRUT

try GDP PPP

>an overvalued currency is the free market
wow some americans really are dumb

PPP is for third worlders who want to look rich

ok, believe it

what do you mean by "collapse"

first theres an EU budget, would you pay for it? when do you wana leave, before 2020? or after 2020? leaving isnt a "signiture here, bye!" act, there are million of harmonized laws, cooperations, business that give you jobs and indirectly making your country function by paying huge amount of taxes so your hospitals operate, your firefighters and cops get payed, teachers taking care of your children

so you leave, and you start the process of backing up from agreements, do you pay your share you agreed? if you dont because why would you, you wont see anything back from it, you will sanctioned, even the brits are paying

why do you think your little poltard dream of underage american virgins is a good idea?

so what would first and absolutely collapse, is italy, its banks, its companies, is governmental systems, meanwhile you have wild negros in the country all trying to get into the EU since you are leaving, surely that is the recipe to bringing down this "corrupt organisation"

top kek, uneducated mario

He's retarded, just ignore him

>even the brits are payin
anglos have no euro curency

>Build economy around toilet paper tier meme-currency
Like seriously, a 1000 Lire got you like a couple of candy bars or something, right?
>Adopt stable currency you can't inflate through regular monetary policies to aid the export industry
>Suddenly companies can't keep manufacturing costs relatively low to what customers pay
>Wonder why it all went to shit

> a 1000 Lire got you like a couple of candy bars or something, right?
1000 lire = 0.50 euro

>higher level of productivity
circular reasoning
first clue you're a retard
>e-commerce and average English knowledge level
holy shit ahahahahahahaahahah

A different currency doesn't make a worker more productive, you moron
>e-commerce and average English knowledge level
It's true, just google it.

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they are paying their budget part till 2020 idiot

I'll help your nonexisting brain: how do you quantify productivity?
Also, for your general knowledge: correlation =/= causation

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Given the EU is slowly but surely becoming a federal state, let’s talk about how ok this is in 20 years...

>1000 lire = 0.50 euro
Shiiiet

The Norwegian central bank has a yearly inflation goal of 2%-2.5%, to incentivice investments, and aiding exports.
And the current exchange rate is 1000 NOK = 103.5 EUR.

>I'll help your nonexisting brain: how do you quantify productivity?
GDP per hour worked, I didn't invent it as a concept
Regarding correlation and causation I could say the same thing regarding your graph You must be braindead

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you cant do that, your government is a joke anyway

>GDP per hour worked
so why would you use productivity as an excuse for their higher GDP, retard?

also
>my graph
ahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahh

Because you can employ fewer people, produce the same and invest what remains in R&D?
Am I talking with a child?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>

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>dude just fire some people and hire some others and make them work better
>*hits bong*

definitely too complex strategies for any economist that ever graced this earth, publish a paper about it man

fuck italy and italians

Ok, nice bait, I took too long to see it

Mutti wouldn't allow it.

Spain has a terrible crisis since 10 years ago and personally i am voting for far right in the next elections,you aren't alone italobro

and 90s? italian disco, italo house etc
youtube.com/watch?v=aLce9rH3LX8