Are you ready for the California century?
Are you ready for the California century?
Carter Campbell
Asher Brooks
Are Mexican immigrants, dare I say... /OURGUYS/???
Owen Edwards
i need to learn spanish pronto!
Josiah Foster
>comparing a state to an actual country
Juan Morales
>England and client territories
>an actual country
Luke Kelly
it's because of silicon valley not because carlos is blowing leaves off the sidewalk from 9 to 5
now kys chicano
Easton Collins
Danebro is not wrong. The comparison is awkward at best. California is heavily subsidized with federal dollars in many different ways. If they had to stand on their own then they would not appear so well on paper. This concept of them being so great is a sham facade.
Ryan Cox
>The comparison is awkward at best. California is heavily subsidized with federal dollars
>flyovers actually believe this
Dominic Russell
All that outsourcing and the current tech bubble are really paying off for a handful of people.
Brandon Kelly
thx
the uk left an union and their economy is bleeding, so imagine if california left their country. it would take decades preparation to not become mexico-tier
Jackson Bailey
t. Dixitard
California gives more money to the federal government than it receives.
Landon Ramirez
texas is right behind you. And with all the middle class leaving the state because of overtaxation, your time is neigh california
Caleb Allen
No, no it isn't.
California's GDP is over $1,000,000,000,000 dollars higher than Texas' and its economy is growing at a faster rate.
Aaron Hill
>Mexican immigrants
>core reason for California's success
BHWHAHAHWAHAHWHWHHWAGHGHWAHBHWGHAHHAHAHAHHH!
It's Jews, Asians, and WASP (mostly males) that run the tech sector that is creating billions in revenue, taxes, and net worth.
Spics only do the bottom tier shit like cleaning the toilets, washing dishes, maidwork, etc.
Alexander Rogers
i pray to god california tries to secede
Camden Foster
>muh economy size
>worst wealth inequality of any US state
>LA is a literal favela
>homeless drug addicts shooting up and smoking crack in public everywhere
>catches on fire every month
>entire GDP is built on an extremely wealthy handful of individuals who aren't even usually Californians while 70% of natives are knuckledragging low-IQ retards who can barely even string a sentence together
Eli Lee
checked. well said desu
Noah Diaz
>My flyover ass is on FIIIIIIRRRRRREEEE
Go eat some corn and shop at Walmart, Cletus
Nicholas Murphy
Immigrants make up the bulk of the workforce in the agricultural sector.
Ethan Ramirez
>ooga booga Cletus
>unga bunga flyover
compelling argument
Jose Gomez
>California century
I thought it was PNW century
Adam Miller
en.wikipedia.org
p.s. let's say Agriculture is 20% instead of sub-2%. Even then the gains made there is by innovators who create better fertilizer, breeders who make more bountiful plants, or producers who maximize the price of agriculture by advertising/marketing or making something else like microbrew beer from it. Those jobs aren't done by the spic migrants.
Michael Wright
We call Castillan Spanish but we should call it Californian because California is the richest Spanish nation.
Nolan Russell
>>worst wealth inequality of any US state
What did the flyover mean by this?
Kayden Rodriguez
>In January 2017, the California Legislative Analyst’s Office said by several measures California is, indeed, a donor state, but just barely. It receives $0.99 in federal expenditures per dollar of taxes paid
Shit, man, you're right. We would really be hurting if we lost that literal penny on the dollar.
Camden Rogers
How much do you want to bet that it's increasing at a decreasing rate though?
Alexander Myers
That map would look very different if NYC and the rest of NY were different states.
Elijah Long
Just imagine the wealth per capita figure if they hadn't let in so many foreigners
Benjamin Jenkins
Tech bubble propping up the whole tent.
I suspect the rich Californians displaced the white population in order to have uncontested access to some of the best real estate in the world. Hoping they Mexicans eat them whenever the USA Balkanizes.
Jackson Rogers
Illegal immigrants hold down wages in the ag sector, which at face value keeps prices down, but it comes at a cost. Using what essentially amounts to slave labor is holding back technological innovation in the field, in particular automation.
This is basically a repeat of pre-Civil War conditions. California (and Texas, and minorly Illinois) are over-utilizing a type of labor that's going to be phased out by smarter regions/countries, like the Netherlands and China. The moment reliable cheap automated ag technology hits the market and we buy it, we'll have millions of useless Mexicans lying around.
It's better to deport them all and get to work on automated ag tech so we can be the ones selling it, not the Dutch or Chinese.
Connor Wood
>Hoping they Mexicans eat them whenever the USA Balkanizes.
We will nuke your piece of shit country into the ground before we ever balkanize.
Matthew Sullivan
How about redistributing some of that money to weaker states?The USA has so much wealth discrepancy between states it's not even funny
Jacob Hughes
How can it be fifth biggest even though they have a lot of people who live below poverty line
Isaiah Williams
bravo uk
Ryder Carter
yea, but they also have over 10 million more people in california. But that isn't going to be a problem anymore. Califonia is leaking 800,000 people a year. more people are leaving california then entering it. It's the exact opposite for texas.
John Baker
This is only temporary.
Parker Young
>which at face value keeps prices down
Mostly just keeping wages down tho.
Noah Barnes
You almost balkanized a while back without anyone's help. Aren't Texas and California always threatening of seceding when things don't go their way ?
Nicholas Hernandez
Yes, for lower class Americans. So the net gain is
>lack of incentive for technological progress
>harming lower class Americans who are already doing pretty shittily
Just like the fucking lazy Confederate South
Adam Cox
>Aren't Texas and California always threatening of seceding when things don't go their way ?
Yes, with 100 signature petitions. Oh no!
Lincoln Perry
Also isn't californias gpdpc much more in line with other states and certainly not something that is miles ahead of others.
Jayden King
High middle or so
Blake Johnson
It's the other way around you flyover fucktard.
California gives more money to the federal government than it receives.
Zachary Barnes
>2005
>pre crisis numbers
I'm not that retard, but you're just as bad as him. The current numbers put Cali at $0.99 paid out, $1.00 received, which puts you at an ever so slight leech number. Your 20 year record is only slightly positive.
If you wanted to be a net contributor, you should be more like Connecticut, Minnesota, New Jersey, and Illinois. They pay a load more than they receive. California is nothing special in this regard.
Leo Howard
>It's Jews, Asians, and WASP (mostly males)
The only population that is over represented in tech here are Indians and Chinese to a smaller extent.
I've worked in tech and it's a fair mix of whatever the general population of the area is comprised of.
>Spics only do the bottom tier shit like cleaning the toilets, washing dishes, maidwork, etc.
Fresh, non English speaking unskilled laborers do that when they first get here. A lot of them end up in trades or the lower end of white collar after they've been here for a long time.
Ian Rodriguez
>communism doesn't wor-
Alexander Evans
California is still a donor state on that map too.
Nathan Gray
Most fed money injected into the US goes into Aerospace development and the military bases here.
Christian Sanders
Superiority to what? You're #16 on that map, below a fuckton of flyover states
economist.com
Colton Wilson
>Aerospace development
Woah free high tech jobs, that certainly hurts the economy dontit?
>and the military bases here.
That's called being on a coast, which is almost entirely offset by having ports to trade with China. Plus having coasts increases real estate by a whole lot.
The geographic argument holds no water
Cameron Gonzalez
>Wyoming stronk
>the least populous and the second least densely populated state in the country
>The state population was estimated at 586,107
>The main drivers of Wyoming's economy are mineral extraction—mostly coal, oil, natural gas
LET ME MOVE IN!
David Murphy
Minnesota best
In the entire midwest
Nathaniel Myers
This is misleading without some context. Consider what the federal government distributes money for. Old people (social security, medicare), poor people (most other welfare), and subsidies. Then consider who pays the most taxes (primarily the 1%, but really all considered to be middle-upper class).
Oliver Baker
This. Retards literally have no understanding how economies work.
>California becomes independent
>suddenly they have to pay for their own defense, border security, all infrastructure, mint their own currency, establish diplomatic and trade relations with other countries etc which all costs a lot
>import tariffs are now levied by the US so California being a net exporter will either have to devalue their currency or the manufacturing companies will drastically slash wages and attract a workforce satisfying that demand which means even MORE Mexican immigrants
>all the tech companies enjoying tax benefits by the US and federal subsidies will likely pack their shit and move to the US, leaving a huge hole in California's economy
>a third of Cali's energies are imported so now they'll have to pay extra for that, and rely on a foreign nation when it comes to such key strategical sector such as energy and water
A sovereign country just doesn't operate like a state/province and California being a part of the US is a huge reason why their economy is so big in the first place.