Why do they Chinese hate us? Do they not realize what we did to help them in WWII?
You have to admit, it's pretty fucking disrespectful. It's like a guy from another country donating his liver to you because you have alcoholism but you still hate him after your life has been saved.
Like What the fuck dude. We should make some movies about this.
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The Chinese don’t hate us though, they’re pretty neutral toward Americans
It's not all smooth sailing, user. You, along with a couple of the great powers, did some pretty intense stuff to them in the beginning of the 20th century.
Are you sure? Sortof like a, mutual thing would you say? We don't really hate them either, just look at them like a bit of a anthill with too high a population. I'd say most people don't think or care very much about them.
Anybody more informed on this subject?
>You have to admit, it's pretty fucking disrespectful.
They do not shit on us nearly as much as the Jews do.
They love America, hate Trump.
Their hive mind makes it easy to say that.
Obama was very much loved by them.
I don't know much about that period, we brushed over it in high school but it was only probably a few weeks. All I remember is that the boxers believed in the mystical arts and thought they were immune to bullets and their punches could deflect cannon fire and the like.
I'm sure it's a bit exaserbated but that part stood out to me. What even caused Europeans/white people in general to intervene?
It's mostly just the government and the military that distrust the US because we get in the way of their imperialistic plans in East Asia. But I don't think average Wang has anything against us; they probably hate Japan more.
Actually, Russians probably have a greater degree of grassroots butthurt because after all we were their rival for half a century and a lot of them think we took advantage of them during the 90s when they were poor and broken.
True, maybe I'm intertwining Russian mentality with Chinese Mentality too much.
>It's mostly just the government and the military that distrust the US because we get in the way of their imperialistic plans in East Asia
Still, it ultimately boils down to Japan. The idea of a rearmed Tokyo absolutely terrifies China; they in fact tend to see the US military presence in Asia as the lesser of two evils since we haven't allowed Japan to have a real military since WWII.
They intervened because they feared the extortion trade empire the great powers of europe and US had created there might crumble if the rebellion got out of hand. So nothing different than what US does nowadays with middle east.
The Boxer Rebellion was mostly instigated by the abuses of the European powers and Japan. The US actually wasn't a major participant and after it was over, the European powers all extracted huge indemnities from China, but the US only asked for a smaller settlement and even agreed to accept a number of Chinese students to be educated in American universities.
>nothing different than what US does nowadays with middle east
Had extremely reliable information that a new rogue state was forming similar to North Korea, only difference was that is was within striking distance on Europe... and everything really. Saddam and his Regime had to die. But I won't go into that further, it takes alot of research to understand, wrote a massive 16 page paper on it once. It was going to happen, everything after that was merely logical and for profit, all came after.
They somehow smuggled their WMDs out though. Definitely with Russian aid. Triggered desu. But we are massive trade/military partners with the Saudis, so you're right there. The whole situation is fucked.
Yes as i meant. It was just US protecting it's own interests.
>But we are massive trade/military partners with the Saudis, so you're right there. The whole situation is fucked
Especially considering that Saudi Arabia is almost North Korea-tier in terms of personal freedoms that people have there.
I know... protip there's a reason why gas prices dropped significantly following Crimea. We hit Russia where it hurt, Saudis flooded the market with gas in an economic attack. Boom sanctions bitch.
But it's all logical, Saudis control that region... yeah it's fucked enough said. I'm gonna back to my show before this devolves into a troll thread.
Thanks, cool read.
Our hands were pretty much clean in the Chinese Century of Humiliation. We didn't flood them with opium like Britain, con them out of clay like Russia, or invade and commit mass murders and enslavement of the population like Japan. In fact they became free of Japan only because we literally nuked the latter and compelled them to go home. American bombs and bullets have never scratched China's soil.
The Russians also made off with all the industry in Manchuria that Japan built when they occupied it in 1945. They just took all the factories and carted them away piece by piece.
>cannot criticize the monarchy or the government
>illegal to practice any religion except Sunni Islam
>music cannot be played in public, nor are alcohol or movie theaters permitted
>women cannot drive or bicycle on public roads
>women must wear a trash bag in public
>corporal punishment used for a wide variety of crimes including some relatively minor ones like theft
>can get in big trouble for photographing government buildings, airports, military installations, or military/police personnel
>your electronic devices can be searched at any time without your consent for material that can be deemed politically or socially harmful
>illegal for Israeli citizens to enter the country
>you also cannot enter the country with an Israeli passport
I mean, this is some 1984 shit here.
We ended up forging a partnership with KSA not long after its creation in the 1930s when oil was discovered and the US made a profit-sharing agreement with the Saudi monarchy. Which was downright generous of us considering that Britain at the same time commandeered all of Iran's oil for themselves and didn't pay them a penny for it.
An interesting picture about an American in China during WWII
A lot of people forget that the KMT and Chiang Kai-Shek were not really any more friends with America than the communists were; KMT ideology was heavily based on nationalistic butthurt over the Century of Humiliation (in of itself rooted in traditional Chinese xenophobia) and it was a marriage of convenience more than anything. Chiang didn't mind taking American and British money to line his pockets, but to call him a friend and a person who shared any of our values is a bit silly.
After the mainland fell in 1949, the Truman Administration basically wrote off the KMT as losers and were prepared to extend diplomatic recognition to the PRC until the Korean War intervened. Chiang never quite trusted the US and purged some KMT members during the 1950s who advocated closer ties with America.
It's too bad about that because during the 90s we assumed Russia would embrace democracy and liberalism, that they were Europeans who shared similar values to us while China could just be written off as a completely alien culture.
Kmt was buddies with ROC, the one that actually saved China from Japan
While on the other hand, CCP is a Mao lead communist party that killef ROC after it weakened due to its own fault like corrupt and such, but mainly Japanese invasion
After war, USA didn't admit PRC to be the real China, and cold war made it even worse. Now they're hating USA after cold war mainly because USA is surrounding China using foreign bases and radars covering basically everything in Manchurian land. Trump made it worse too
That's from Chinese perspective I guess, even though I'd say that they don't actually hate USA desu, USA is just too scary when you're communist and big because of USSR in cold war
>Which was downright generous of us considering that Britain at the same time commandeered all of Iran's oil for themselves and didn't pay them a penny for it
Why are you telling lies on the Internet? Iran always received royalties anywhere from 16% to 20% as well as a 4% tax with a guaranteed minimum sum of a quarter a million. Also, Iran's oil wasn't "commandeered": they gave us a contract to prospect for oil and we discovered the very first Iranian wells to begin with, at no small cost to ourselves either.
Childhood is learning that the Jews were the main victims of WWII
Adulthood is learning the Chinese were the real victims of WWII
China's radar covers all of Korea, but they have the nerve to complain about THAAD. Yeah, fuck them.