Do americans look at english history and think "this is history of my people" do they identify themselves with english...

Do americans look at english history and think "this is history of my people" do they identify themselves with english culture?

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no, not anyone that I've ever seen anyway

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't a huge part of new settlers in America from all over Europe? Germans, Dutch, Scandinavians etc?

Americans aren't Anglo

no

Lol, no. Americans are some of the most anti-English people on Earth. They'll dig up a great-grandparent from anywhere before identifying with England.

a lot of Americans aren't of Anglo ancestry, and a lot of US states were never part of the British Empire (or were even part of France or Spain), so generally no. I personally do though, in terms of seeing English history as partly my own, not really identifying with English culture.

Apart from sharing a common language, Americans have *zero* similarities to the English.

unironically this
Death to the English

Nope not at all. I barely even know British history. I am a """""smart kid"""""" took Global History in highschool and hang out on Jow Forums a lot this is what I know from English history:

-I think they got conquered by Rome? And then by Vikings or Normans or both at various points in their history. This is why English is a jumble. Also there are Anglos from the Anglia Peninsula in Germany and Saxons from maybe Saxony I'd assume.
-The Pope saw some Brit slaves in Rome and "these are not Anglos they are Angels!" (lol) and sent over some missionairies and they build monestarys
-King Henry VIII got mad at the Pope for not letting him divorce/behead his wives. So he established the "Church of England", still the official religion of this day that makes the King the Pope of England. Then he divorced and beheaded his wives. Divorce Beheaded Died, Divorced Beheaded Survived. (ONE OF THE ONLY PARTS I LEARNED IN SCHOOL).
-During this part he also burned down all the monasteries the Pope had built (making the "they are not anglos they are angels" comment very ironic) and killed everyone who told him not to
-There is 2 Queens here. Bloody Mary who will appear in a mirror at Halloween. So she rebelled against her dad and tried to kill the Protestants instead. Didn't take. Then Queen Elizabeth who patroned Shakespeare or something. She's famous. (LEARNED ABOUT SHAKESPEARE IN SCHOOL)
-They sailed around and conquered/colonized a bunch of places. Including us, the USA. We kicked their ass and sent them back home. (THE ONLY OTHER PART I LEARNED IN SCHOOL).
-Napoleon kept trying to conquer them but they kicked his ass.
-Then they joined up with USA to defeat WWI/Nazis etc. Churchhill did some shady stuff but thats war for you.
-They sold off their colonies too much of a pain in the ass and modern economy doesn't work that way.

Then they kinda floated around, joined EU then decided not to. We'll see. Also they were assholes to the Ireland.

Yes. History pre revolution is taught though an English lens and Anglo culture is the default here. Any one that says different is being extremely dishonest

No.

>thinking Americans give two shits about the Napoleonic Wars

Why would they? They have their own history.

Yes. We even framed our Bill of Rights on the English Bill of Rights.

Educated ones do. obviously isn't concerned.

I still have no idea what Waterloo is. I get it has something to do with Napoleon (is that Napoleons last stand?) but that is it. And I dont know who Wellington is.

But then I dont watch a lot of historical movies so what you are saying might be true of history movies.

Nobody does this anywhere. Except maybe Australia. Fucking cuckstamp flag larpers.

he was talking about people, not Walmartoids

not really

I should add or are extremely dumb like

I identify with American history

the english civil war and magna carta are considered pretty important to american history, don't take these undereducated meme posters seriously

Never heard of Wellington. I’ve taken world history in both highschool and college. The only things I’ve learned about Napoleon is that he sold us Louisiana and he lost the Battle of Waterloo. He was exiled twice. I only know he was on Elba because I watched the movie the Count of Monte Cristo.
I don’t think Americans learn shit about the Napoleonic Wars, nor do we care.

the only genuinely lasting ethnic enclave in the US has been the Pennsylvania Dutch and they've been thoroughly assimilated

>potentially interesting thread
>turns into brainlets bragging about how uneducated they are
I'm out

Too stupid to realize your proving his point

> I am a """""smart kid"""""" took Global History in highschool
> -I think they got conquered by Rome?

The absolute fucking state of Americans.

>Never heard of Wellington.

I'm not "bragging" I am being factual. Most Americans outside of maybe super rich kids at some kind of European-focused prep school aren't going to know what Waterloo is. I don't and it was never mentioned anywhere in my school curriculum.

Most French probably don't know what Vicksburg is either. So we are even.

he obviously didn't take an AP course, so he can't be that smart, regardless of what people say about the AP's political bias they're the most comprehensive history courses American high schools have

ITT burger education

>knowing nothing about Napoleon means your uneducated

You do realize that in world history classes the class doesn't have time to cover every single time Europeans killed each other. We have to study all 5 continents. A war that barely changed anything in the long run, and only lasted for 12 years hardly registers in this class. The French Revolution does get attention though, but not the Napoleonic Wars.

but poles are stupid

To be fair, no one outside the US learns about the details of the American Civil War.

But we still have better education. now go have sex with your waifu becasue you are going extinct

There was no AP world history offered at my school. I did take AP US History, though that didn't cover UK at all.

Most of what I learned about UK history was actually in English class. That's where I learned the Divorce/Beheaded/Died thing (sticks with me today), Shakespeare etc. But still not a lot.

Waterloo is the only battle American history classes discuss in detail and the lessons barely mention the other people that fought in it besides the Brits

>Divorce Beheaded Died, Divorced Beheaded Survived
maybe yank schools arent so bad after all

>jus bcuz I dun know nuthin bout Napoolion don't mean I be stupid

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We don't learn about your petty intra-european conflicts at all and for WW1/WW2 we only care about the US involvement.
We do learn about important historical leaders and by that I mean French and English leaders, between which it was a pretty even split.

Woops meant to link You guys barely even cover the American Revolutionary war and you were in that one. So why would we cover the time #434394 Euros decided to try and conquer each other?

Wasn’t trying to prove his point or argue with him. Just saying that I have no idea who Wellington is and obviously that’s reflective of American education. Call us brainlets, because that’s what we are when it comes to European history.

What the fuck do Americans even learn, if not European history? Your history could be written on a Post-It note.

AP US History goes over the Magna carta and English Civil war and specifically places it within a narrative that the Revolution was a continuation of the trend of striving for rights of the common Englishmen

>Your history could be written on a Post-It note
We think the same of yours.

>being this delusional

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nobody hates the english you baby. We just like to banter with you because you like to be all posh and haughty.

I think you overestimate the importance (or lack of it) of the War for Independence. It is not that important for us.

Even so, most English people could recall the basic facts.

Haha, this is pure delusion.

I googled Wellington and got "Capital of New Zealand".
I googled Wellington Waterloo and actually got "Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington". Who I THINK is what is being referred to since he defeated Napoleon at Waterloo. Wellington isn't even his name, its Wellesley.

Bitching that Americans don't know who "Wellington" is is like bitching Euros don't know who Ulysses S Grant is. Not even, at least Ulysses S Grant was president. Its like bitching Euros don't know who George Meade is. But referring to them both by the names of their home town.

Europeans really think they are the center of the universe and every one of their many conflicts should be described in detail (up to the hometown of random generals) in curriculum even across the world.

>delusion
english "history' and it's relation to US history covered in one lesson. quite literally a post it note class.

Not knowing that Rome invaded Britain is a sign of being a retard but this mutt has a point, europeans really overplay their conflicts when they had like 8 per century

The fact that you have to Google this basic information is what Euros laugh at.

Napoleon, Wellington, and Waterloo had massive implications for European history, and hence, at the time, world history.

George Meade was famous for... *hastily Googles*... a small battle in one (1) country's civil war.

>walmartoids
yikes
I say walmartian

No it's reflective of you

if you want serious responses about this from people who weren't dropped frequently as infants or are currently literally in high school right now you'd be much better off asking /his/ or literally anywhere but here.

The bare facts are:
>English history is considered important to our own, especially English enlightenment figures, Tudor and Stuart monarchs, the English Civil War, and the Magna Carta
>the history curriculums in the different states are completely different from each other, American school systems are extremely decentralized. That's why you will hear one thing about what an American learned in school and then something completely contradictory from another American so frequently.
>lower class people don't know shit about history, but that's true literally everywhere

>implying that secession war was important
>>south wins
oh no! now niggers are working :(

>settling
>war of independence
>civil war
>the world wars
Thats pretty much your entire history, dont see how that could take more than 10 minutes

>I think you overestimate the importance (or lack of it) of the War for Independence. It is not that important for us.
We weren't even in the Napoleonic war. Like I know American Revolutionary war isn't important in the overall trajectory of British history. But why would Napoleonic war be at all relevant to Americans? Didn't even learn about it til I was an adult on Jow Forums.

We learn American history, including our national history and state history.

Precolumbian (including Aztec/Incan/Mayan and a lot of smaller civilizations in the wouldbe US proper)-->Age of Exploration (focus on Spanish/Portuguese, learn more about Magellan et al than any Britbong)-->Colonization of Americas especially the Mayflower and Jamestown and local state (for me I lived in Michigan so we learned a lot about French fur traders and Chippewa etc)-->French and Indian war-->Revolutionary War-->bit of War of 1812-->Westward Expansion, including many conflicts with Natives, Louisiana Purchase-->Mexican American War-->Civil War--->Spanish and Philippine American Wars-->WWI-->Roaring Twenties-->Great Depression-->New Deal and WWII-->Sometimes a bit of Cold war and Hippie shit if they have time at the end of the year.

One thing that irritated me though was that they always seemed to restart this cycle frequently. So we relearned and relearned these same events in this order every few years.

Remember the Magna Carta in in the most glancing sense-- "Puritans were inspired by Magna Carta", dont remember English Civil War at all. If it was brought up, it was brought up only very slightly, and I got a 4 on the AP US history test too. Then again it was over 10 years ago so a lot can change in those years and I can forget stuff too.

A lot of beaners in this thread then

smug retard

>mutts don't know what is Waterloo

Holy shit nigga, what the fuck? Ayyy

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America was invading Canada during the napoleonic wars why would they care about europe when they werent involved?

>Battle of Gettysburg
>"Small Battle"

The absolute STATE of European education. Someone PLEASE tell me Euros aren't ALL this ignorant of World History!!!

In high school I spent two years learning US history and only about a quarter of a year learning about Europe. The rest of that third year was spent learning about the other continents. A lot of focus was on the Middle East and Asia.
College world history focused on the Classic Era, the Dark Ages, the Renaissance and the following Enlightenment. The class did touch upon important English figures during these time periods, but since there wasn’t too much focus on the Napoleonic Wars, there was no mention of any Wellington. Why should I know about him? Why should I care?

it's alright europeons are just suffering from their little peasant brains

nope, not even close

I had to study the independence of the United States, the civil war and the wars with Canada and Mexico. So why should they not learn about Europe?

>But we still have better education.
proofs?

>now go have sex with your waifu becasue you are going extinct

wow…poles are stupid(._.)

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Unfortunately

Waterloo I was defeated, you won the war
Waterloo promise to love you for ever more
Waterloo couldn't escape if I wanted to
Waterloo knowing my fate is to be with you
Waterloo finally facing my Waterloo (8)

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Britbongs don't study the American Independence war and they were actually in it. Surprised you even study our "war" with Canada since it was such a big nothing and we didnt even win.

Personally I did study
-Ancient Greece
-Ancient Rome
-Reformation including King Henry VIII
-Renaissance
-Age of Exploration
-Age of Enlightenment and French "Revolution"
-WWI/WWII
-Rebuilding Europe
-Cold War crap

All of which are European or European-adjacent. Just the Napoleonic wars are kind of irrelevant. Europe has a lot of wars after all.

Yes, German is the most common ethnic group in america.
Pennsylvania was settled by germans, still to this day don't know why they replace german word for dutch. Some user claim that it was a miss understood use of the word deutch.

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>German meme

Your done

yeah but our population is younger, and birth rates are increasing. meanwhile your men are betas and hikkis
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men
now go. you are late on your USA cock sucking class

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Those statistic are shit m8. AS far as i know, they pick a average per all womans (even the 100yo who had 12 children 60 yo ago).
They should plot graphics using age groups...

Not the Amish, they still speak an old form of Swiss German

>regardless of what people say about the AP's political bias
do republicans claim that it's run by gommunists or something

Obviously youre a retard then, im American and I took AP US history, AP World History, and AP European history, youre a brainlet who most likely got put in pleb tier classes

tbf isn't being the duke of Wellington like being the Lord Baltimore or similar shit? it's a title designates your position rather than origin

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えぇ…ポーランドの出生率低すぎない?

But America receive a shitload of Germans. If it was not by WWI, you would probably be speaking german right now.

i think the reason americans don't identify as english when asked about their ancestry is cause english is (or was until recently) the default

Yes. Most 18th century settlers were Ulster-Scots and Germans. The lion share of English settlers arrived in the 1600's

>Americans are some of the most anti-English people on Earth.
That's a lie. USA and England/UK are probably one of if not the closest ally relationships that exist in the world.

USA does "hate on" Britain for wars and monarch tyranny of the past.

I think most Americans recognize the role Britain played in founding the colonies that became America, but few Americans see Britain in a "fatherly" role but attribute the fatherhood of America to the founding fathers and men who died fighting against Britain.

When America became it's own country, Americans still consider themselves English. Some even called themselves Englishmen still.
America is deeply rooted in Anglo tradition,law,culture,etc.

If america didn't get flooded with g*Rmans, Irish, Italians,Blacks and Jews then it would look more like Canada.

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That's why the Appalaches and the MidWest are full of rednecks.

>Precolumbian (including Aztec/Incan/Mayan and a lot of smaller civilizations in the wouldbe US proper)
this sounds like complete and utter bullshit