European Federation

Why are Europeans against the idea of a united Europe capable of competing economically with the USA and China to put Europe number one again?
Isn't it supposed to be a good thing?
Or maybe do you like your American masters too much?

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I'm a federalist.

>why is centralization a bad idea?
Cause it leads to totalitarianism, lack of competition and hence degeneration and becoming Arab tier shit

This is not smart. EU is failed utopia.

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Im against the EU government not a united European state

Becasue I have very little in common with a Portugese or a Bulgarian.
If we wher talking about a north european federation on the other hand.

I imagine they don't want to lose their sovereignty and become essentially the equivalent of a US state.

aren't you faggots tired of spamming the same shit multiple times a day?
swear Jow Forums is the only board where this fuckery happens

This time eurofags will bring full communists.

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Because the European Union in its current state mainly benefits Germany, now another disgusting NWO state.

Because these people are in charge of it:
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>united Europe
>American masters

Yeah-yeah, let`s pretend that things are any different nowadays.

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Conspiracy theoritists!

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I think they should form successful regional blocs before they all try and federalize.

prob not, EU members consist of europeans, their nationalist tendencies will ruin them eventually

Because that would mean a world war.

*tips tinfoil uspanka*

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a uncultured neliberal version of europe is the same as death,call me when a proud of her rots free ,prosperus for all start building i will be the first to jump on it

I prefer a totalitarian european nationalist republic, but eu is just a slave state to serve the jews and exterminate the european race.

Only a war against someone else could reduce nationalism and make a kind of paneuropean nationalism rise. That's one of the reasons why the EU is falling apart, no one has a sense of belonging.

They miss fighting wars with each other.

You must be well acquainted with that with your federal government that appoints governors and all. The EU actually promotes political pluralism, though.

>competing economically with the USA
in what sense? do you think it would be worth it for the average person to require to go into tens of thousands of euro of debt for education and healthcare just so a handful of european corporations could boast about 'competing with the USA economically?'

Your retarded nonsense has no sense in reality.

>The EU actually promotes political pluralism, though
That's why Brussels is trying to make everyone love MUH MUDSLIMS and punish countries who doesn't want to turn themselves into a sharia shithole, lol

I'm in favour of cooperation between us, (military, economic etc.)
but not into erasing cultures or the globalist dieversity of the EU opening our borders to the non europeans. But in a general way i'm in favour of it.

Because it looks like shit without Norway, Switzerland and Balkans. It triggers my autism

based finn.
we should federalise asap.

EU is Americalite with even less benefits.

The further you get from Europe you start seeing how similiar Europeans.

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Are*

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This

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it should include every single plot of land visible on the map

But we can always fight those multiracialists inside of it like:

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can the eu be reformed at this point? even if nationalist people with the correct idea of europe came to power could they change it ?look like a usa 2.0 to me

it would be ok if germany, sweden and other pr*testant nation would be devided into irrelevancy furthermore

Kys poorly made mixture of mongols, slavs and arabs.

Rich euros are against it because they want to control their own politics and they don't want to spoonfeed the poor ones. The poor ones are against it because they don't want third gender bathroom laws imposed on them.

fine by me, the next world war they start will be a contained civil war

Its kinda to do how there are tons of different cultures with different views and different languages

because its really asking for a big scale yugolsavia. and look how that turned out.

>fight each other forever
>end of world war 2
>suddenly best friends
fuck right off Tony

England had a different language too, so did italy france and all the roman world

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>Why don't you want to become a money pump for German industrialists
Because the Germans are fucking up Europe once again

Correct.

The only issue with the EU are its immigrants and genocidal tendacy to native europeans.

this desu

Otherwise Europe should become a single republic united forever as a single people and a single state, this goal is destroyed qnd subverted by non european invaders.

How long until there would be a civil war, I wonder

Portuguese will not be an issue, they will be mixed out by the vast majority of white population.

Never.

hard but true maybe some military allianze to keep the border and usa in check and thats all

You're talking about a Europe that's run by crypto-commies like Juncker and Merkel.

yeah and look how that turned out

europeans would rather die off than fight for what is there homeland

>usa in check
in your dreams sanchez

>europeans would rather die off than fight for what is there homeland

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You are a literal 56% nation while mad cunts in Europe elect Salvinis and Orbans