The absolute STATE of the west

>complain when whites don’t have kids
>complain when they do

Make up your mind, Jow Forums.

>refuse to have kids and get married
>realize your life is empty without kids or being married

Incels and mgtowcucks BTFO. Men are obsolete

Hmmm, how do people grow up with a mindset like this?

Honestly somalis and iraqis are good for sweden at least the country will survive for the next few centuries.

No idea. I assume the kid will turn out fine considering all 4 parents are highly educated and the butches apparently wealthy as fuck too.
They want to get married, just not with you or me

I’m okay with this as long as there are more lesbians.

Incomplete families are worse than childless families IMO.

She still needed a males sperm to perform ivf.

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From the spermbank

At least they're white

The state of natalist cucks, what are the advantages of having kids then?
You're wasting 1/5 of your life that you could have used building your fortune, travelling the world, built yourself, frontiered a technology or a science or something.
And don't give me that ''When you get old'' bullshit.

Who provided the sperm to the bank?

The idea of obsolete male is a meme.

Single mothers are absolute cancer to boy’s development. They ruin their sons, shit even non-single mothers do more to damage their son’s development than help it, fortunately the husband(the ones with a backbone atleast) keep them in check. Mothers try to feminize their sons and turn into socially awkward betas. I’m glad my mum died when I was young, she was an overbearing cunt

Only need sperm from the top 10% of men. You betas are obsolete. An evolutionary dead end

>Build your fortune
So you can die bitter and alone with a stacked bank account like a true Germanic

Australia is Western, too. Why are you mocking yourself

then you die and who the fuck continues your legacy with all those beautifull things you just said.
Cunt

>You betas

Cause it's funny to laugh at your misfortunes.

>building your fortune, travelling the world, built yourself, frontiered a technology or a science or something
This is all impossible if you have children.

>I’m glad my mum died
Damn was she really that bad man?

>slutty daughters, crazy beta/super alpha sons
Every single mom family out there. The son is either the saddest piece of shit on the planet or incapable of binding with anyone and can only form relationships for 1 night

And this is why white women are bottom of the barrel trash. They’re all run down feminist whores that are unfit to be mothers

Who hurt you

Whats the point of fortune if you have no one to spend it with?

Pursue your goals, we will have children and you can have your fortune and travelling.

To produce more autistic soyboys. Having kids this late is guaranteed mental health issues with the kids

stop projecting

>My mommy wants me to get a christian gf
is it worth it lad?

The statistics don’t lie either, single moms ruin their sons. Take your ‘who hurt you’ crap to reddit

What's with all this butthurt? Seriously.
Can't you just enjoy things in life for yourself? Whats so bad about egotism?

This.

Half of Jow Forums was born to over 30 moms

>butthurt
Mate look at your response to some resistance

I'm not mad. Just pointing out this country is full of angry people with big bank accounts that seem to make money for the sake of it.
Majority of prisoners are raised without a father.

This
live your own life
Kids are expensive, and don't bring any joy, except for more work. When you're old they just dispose of you like a used condom.

>tfw

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>half
das rite, my mom was 21 and prime for making strong males

All the criminals I know have single moms, or absent fathers

>one of the most prosperous nations in the world is so because people value success over sentimentality
seems about right

How the fuck did you know

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Well with sweden's online reputation and your animosity toward having children it's almost laughable how angry you're getting for being called out for your selfishness.

that you end up flaming little kids on the internet because you are alone because your social skills are so low that not even your mother wants to talk to you anymore.

Back on KC the numbers were even worse.

>why do girls want to wait till the last second to get pregnant? jesus h
Because in their 20s they're super desirable and don't want to "waste" their youth taking care of babies.

My cousin decided to become a single mother after it became apparent no man wanted to be with her. Shes super greedy and a cunt.

Being selfish and being self centered are two different things, i would help out friends and whatnot.
I just don't get why someone would actively take the decision to worsen their life for 20 years

There are no real benefits for a man to have kids
>child rearing is a woman’s job
>it makes men weak literally(lowers test)
>no woman is trustworthy to start a family with with(you might not be raising your own kid and there’s a chance of child support happening)
>your offspring will eventually rebel against you and become resentful
>your son might become a loser and there’s a 100% chance your daughter will become a whore
>men aren’t biologically programmed to raise kids, they’re simply born with the drive to want to impregnate as many women as possible
You don’t think it’s a coincidence that all the alphas in the world just pump and dump while fathers tend to be miserable fat fucks

It is fine. I respect your decision.
I just want to point out we have many people over here nowadays that just want to make money for the sake of it. Boomers at retirement age that somehow still feel the need to invest all their money usually in shit like real estate to bully young people.

lol enjoy being a miserable cunt your entire life. No one will remember you the day you die.

Having kids is a blessing and one of the best part of life. I have currently 3 kids and everything I do I do for them.

good sweden post

Whatever you say. You must be pretty old or an immigrant to have 3 kids

All the alphas have children you mong.

There’s no reason to lie here buddy. Even if you were telling the truth, when taking into consideration your flag, those kids probably aren’t even yours biologically

>I have currently 3 kids and everything I do I do for them
Enjoy going through life without any identity of your own whatsoever, beta cuckboy.

>selfishness
I'm pretty sure actually making kids is the selfish thing to do. People usually do it to "pass muh genes/name" or to have someone looking for them when they're old. The real selfless thing would be to adopt.

>someone has actually spread his genes
>KEK!!!! KEK!!!! BETA KEK!!!

>let's make the best out of my youth by swallowing a million cocks

Hmm...

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Women are herd animals, even moreso than men, and heavily feel the pressure about what the media is telling them they should do.

Dont get children, you'd suck as a father.
You probably wont tho.

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>men aren’t biologically programmed to raise kids, they’re simply born with the drive to want to impregnate as many women as possible
They are though, since child in a full family is more likely to survive and succeed, also because the best way to produce a lot of children was to marry someone and produce 20 children together.

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Why wouldnt you want children? No meme answers like muh career or muh money.

I know plenty of rich people with 5+ kids

Men
>I’m going to waste my youth by fucking random girls

I know women and men are different, the end result in the long run is the same

>Why is the white race dying?
>LMAO why would i have kids? that's for cucks and betas

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Shhh we're on Jow Forums here.

Because I'm fucking broke.

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>actually listening to the media
>and obeying to be a good boy (girl) even though no one cares

I will never understand normies desu.

Go work. Being broke is a modifiable, its not the same as say infertility.

Same thing as marriage, the negatives outweigh the positives. There are just too many risks in today’s society. The reasons have been listed multiple times in this thread

Good point. Poor people never have children.

Women feel comfortable by knowing they do what the rest is doing. It's also why they make such a fuss about skinny models in the media.
Men don't really feel this pressure, but women do.

Why would I want them? they would take literally all my free time, money, freedom, and would most likely be a bunch of ingrates. It's like adopting a gorilla. The better question is why would you want children in the first place.

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I'm 32 years old Swede, My oldest is 7 years old and my youngest is 3 years old.
Nice meme m8.
I'm enjoying life very much right now, there is nothing wrong going on and there is nothing missing from it.

Wait so both men have a kid with both women? There should be 4 kids then.

In any case, that's pretty hot.

No benefit, your kids grow up and have their own kids and you rot in an elder care home, you realize how much money you wasted and how you could've traveled and enjoyed life with your spouse more then waste you life caring for someone that will just leave you

only if you suck at raising them.

Shitting out kids when you're poor is not a good idea.

I mean to say there's 2 children.

>dude why waste your golden years traveling the world, meeting new people, and experiencing new connections when you can waste them spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to raise a kid lmao

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Why?

Can't afford, don't have the time, not willing to sacrifice and compromise to much of myself for something so arbitrary

No because "fucking random girls" is actually not easy at all.

Ever wondered why football stars had to pay escort girls, even though they're world famous millionaire Chads in their 20s?

Me spending my golden years:
- Jow Forums
- crying

100 years ago everyone was much poorer, yet had much more children.

This 2bh

>No because "fucking random girls" is actually not easy at all.
Go have a talk with a chad please. You have no clue.
I live in student housing. One of my roommates that just left was a tier A chad.
Believe me when I tell you fucking strangers can be very easy. And meeting two girls in 1 day is possible as well for some.

Not really. There are so many variants in the development of a human being that your choices are likely to have little effect in the end.

But hey, if you have a recipe for raising perfect children, you can make big dosh by publishing it. I'm sure it'll be a hit and work for everyone.

Total bullshit, male virgins are shamed and the idea of saving yourself for one person is considered to beta. Fucking lots of woman for a man is considered a sign of how aplha you are. Plus men who don’t drink or do drugs are seen as pussies