Non friendly reminder that Sub-Saharan Africa is the REAL AFRICA and North ““Africa”” is just a second hand Middle East

arr rook same

>most of the world didn't know sub-saharan Africa existed until Arabs came with their camels.
Also, none of the things you said disprove anything *puts sunglasses on*

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What do you mean? Norwegians, Russians and Italians are grouped under white/European as well. Also, to be fair, most of SSA is dominated by Niger-Congo languages, specially Bantu ones, and Africans are closer to each other than to people outside of Africa (Except Horners and Malagasy, I guess).

Agreed.
Now lets please build the wall and make both orient and occident great again,

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They are all labeled as white but we all know the major differences between the languages just by hearing them. We also could recognize a Scandinavian from a Slav from a Med just by looking at them. Finally a Swede and a Norwegian share a lot of cultural similarities regarding food, traditions and such. It's the same in Africa, even bigger because of the larger distances covered, but most people don't pay attention to that, they couldn't do the difference between Niger-Congo languages and completely unrelated languages like amharic spoken in Ethiopia. Also a Madagascarian would be labeled as Black here, the same as an Haitian, but really he'd be much closer to other Austronesian people like Dravidians from India. It doesn't make sense.

africa is literally the ancient name of tunisia
lmaoing at you
also north africans are native north africans
for example only 4% of tunisians are asian learn history
wrmea.org/1996-november-december/tunisia-in-history-the-country-which-gave-its-name-to-a-continent.html

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>africa is literally the ancient name of tunisia
Tough luck, Ahmed, you just got cucked.
>also north africans are native north africans
Reminder that North Africa was settled from the Middle East

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i used to like mexico..
anyway t.rape baby

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Based

All of europe and the americas was settled from the middle east

Actually the oldest human remains were found in Morocco so as far as we know right now technically the whole world was settled from Morocco and not the middle east

and oldest homo spaiens (ancestors of the middle east and europe) found in atals makes you think
i like how an ignorant latino is talking about north africa and his knowledge about the origin of its people
sciencemag.org/news/2017/06/world-s-oldest-homo-sapiens-fossils-found-morocco

>We also could recognize a Scandinavian from a Slav from a Med just by looking at them.
I don't know, besides stereotypical looks of Meds being brown, Slavs looking like Asians and Scandis being blond Aryans blah, blah blah, I don't think they're particularly unique looking from each other.
>Also a Madagascarian would be labeled as Black here,
Would they, though? Are there any Malagasy in Canada?
>but really he'd be much closer to other Austronesian people like Dravidians from India.
This is really wrong. Dravidians aren't related to Austronesians and I'm not too sure about Malagasy culture but genetically they're majority African. Here's an article about them:

pnas.org/content/early/2017/07/11/1704906114

Pretty interesting desu.

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Um, sweetie, North Africa is the OG muttland of the Old World.
"No"
Misleading

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I can think of Rohff, a Malagasy rapper who LARPs as a ''tough nigga'' but really is a Asian looking manlet.

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>Norwegian, an Italian and a Russian for example are all the same
They are

On wiki it says that his family is of Comoran origin, and while Comorans also have some Southeast Asian ancestry, they're most similar to Swahili people and also have Middle Eastern ancestry. Just an fyi.

Bump for ass-blasted Maghrebis.

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I like Dis Mexican.

The oldest genetic markers found in all humans comes from Sub Sahara Africa not North Africa. North Africans are mutts. And the oldest human race is Sub Saharan Africans.

Thanks
VERY informative post.

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>north africans are mutts
also explain the differnece between maghreb and middle east

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friendly reminder that all africa is equally shit no matter if south or north, same goes for south america

>berber and arabs are the same race

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Frequencies are different but it's obviously a cline from Morocco to Egypt and the rest of the Middle East. Meanwhile just little specks of the haplogroups present in SSAfrica.

Now, your good thoughts on this?

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You are Amazigh, not Arab.

I didn't say that. You're different ethnic groups, ofc, but to be fair both groups have admixed in North Africa.
>same goes for south america
So you're saying that both Northern South American and Souther South American are shit?

Learn 2 English if you wanna insult people, Paco.

we are pure :3

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Not necessarily:
>our sample of Tunisian Berbers comes from an isolated, endogamous population with diversity that is likely reduced relative to other Maghrebi populations.

That sample was also analyzed here along with another Tunisian group, and as you can see the other one is similar to other Maghrebi groups.

Watch Black Panther it demonstrates this pretty well with an african american coming to africa.

sure would love if some sub-saharan Africains insert there input in this matter but i guess they don't have internet yet

There are more Nigerians on the Internet that there are Algerians

Why would Africans/Black people come on a site that hates Africans/Black people?

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that's not a regional sample tho
it's from different parts
pic is some isolated groups

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Well, there's two samples with different profiles so obviously not all Tunisians are as pure as would indicate.

coastal people are so mixed they affect the average

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None of what you've written is due to Arabs though, so OP's point still stands

Where is this from?

it's a tunisian study
tunisie-berbere.com/file/96

What do arabs have to do with anything written in this thread?

They are.

>Africa is literally a roman province in North Africa, most of the world didn't know sub-saharan Africa existed until Arabs came with their camels.
>until Arabs came with their camels.

Berbers used the camels brought by Arabs in North Africa to cross the Sahara you brainlet.

Yes until arabs established trade routes to import slaves from sub saharan africa
Where are you going with this?

I have no idea who started it but I imagine it was the arabs because such routes didn't exist before the arape invasion

Probably.

You said nobody mentioned Arabs in this thread but you did
Okay, and? I'm not disputing that, retard.

Dumb spic

Dumb nafri

Only retards think that Africans, or Europeans, or whatever are a "race." You pass the test and are thus not retarded.

No I said none of the things the other moroccan posted have to do with arabs so why bring up arabs dude

You're a CHI, aren't you?

That's bullshit what about the mailans and nubians, Ethiopians??

What the fuck is a CHI?

No one knew what those were before the age of colonization

Please read a history book, user, because that's patently wrong.

I might be wrong idk

>mention arabs
>then ask why arabs are brought up after mentioning them
What did Ahmed mean by this?
>Moroccan education

wtf are you talking about Nubians fought against Romans and worked for the Rome.plz go kill yourself
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman–Nubian_relations

>Ras Hafun in northern Somalia is believed to be the location of the ancient trade center of Opone. Ancient Egyptian, Roman and Persian Gulf pottery has been recovered from the site by an archaeological team from the University of Michigan. Opone is in the thirteenth entry of the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea, which in part states:

Not true, romans knew South African people, they trade with some tribes (buying exotic animals for exemple) through berbers and nomads who trasported and protected convoys. About south africans romans said few things, there were a lot of primitive tribes and they were poor as fuck. Nothing changed since 1800 i guess.

Meaning they were irrelevant and yes indeed north africa is the real africa and subsaharan africa has no right to claim the title lf real africa

this is a syrian too.

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ok

Documented routes of roman trades in west Africa. As you can see romans goes even the "black" Africa. They know that Africa was big, but like with germans, they were not interested in conquer lands of nothing populated by aggressive tribes.

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good post
I prefer Sudanese qts myself

>Documented routes of Roman trades
>Trade routes of the Western Sahara desert c. 1000-1500
???

So we agree that Op's claim that north africa is not the real africa?

Cope
Thanks for giving your agreement

oh yea those trade routes are definitely not from the roman times Marrakesh and Fes were only founded after islam spread in the region

Go to Google Earth and watch where sahara ends please.

is wrong* fuck me

>Moroccan education

Ancient Greeks knew about Ethiopians and Sudanese

I know where the Sahara ends. Thank you. Your post is wrong, though. Those are not Roman trade routes.

Romans in Sub-Saharan Africa were a group of expeditions and explorations to Lake Chad and western Africa. These expeditions were conducted by groups of military and commercial units of Romans who moved across the Sahara and into the interior of Africa and its coast. They occurred between the first and the fourth century AD. The primary motivation for the expeditions was to secure sources of gold and spices. >YOU'RE A FUCKING DUMB ASSSS

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Oh guys, routes are placed on a modern map, is like placing roman routes on google map.

this is mostly a phenomenon that comes from African Americans. pretty much what happens when you "feel" you have a connection to country when you really know nothing at all about such country or its history and they try to connect it all to a continent but that's just plain bad simplification, kind of equivalent to comprising an image to the point its unrecognisable.

North Africans are Arab + Berber + Euro mutts not even African. Not to mention Sub Saharan Africans are much older than North Africans.

According to this, only 19% of the people have internet access in algeria, meanwhile in NIGERIA (my ancestral homeland) we have 47% of the people using internet.

internetlivestats.com/internet-users-by-country/

romanoimpero.com/2016/09/spedizioni-romane-in-africa.html?m=1

Use Google translate and read this, English sources lack in details when they talk about roman empire. There you can read "all" about africa&rome

>Yes indeed north africa is the real africa and sub saharan africa has no right to claim the title lf real africa. The ancient name of Africa was Alkebulan. Alkebu-lan "mother of mankind" or "garden of eden". Alkebulan is the oldest and the only word of indigenous origin. It was used by the Moors, Nubians, Numidians, Khart-Haddans and Ethiopians.

>Khart-Haddans
Who are these

Mauritania, Sudan, Somalia, Northern Niger and Azawad are berber/arab

I couldn't find a map that didn't include both Sudan or Mauritania.
>Somalia
>Berber/Arab
what

Greeks called ethiopia everything south of the desert.

this, OP is a brainlet

Somalia is mixed arab/black and they consider themselves arab

North africans are majority berber this is a genetic fact
If subsaharans are much older then why are all the civilizations that grew larger than huts made of sticks located in the north