DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #2003

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How can I improve without practicing or studying?

ハムスターは出禁だっつてんだろwww⊂( ・∀・) 彡 =͟͟͞͞()`Д´)

>without practicing or studying
What do you mean practicing? You could get away with no studying as long as you either read or write/talk to Japanese on a daily basis, which counts as practicing anyway.

Watch anime

>you can get away with not studying as long as you read
>read Japanese
>without studying
>get away
>as long as you read
>with no studying
>Japanese

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There is a certain point where things are refined more through "practice" than reading a grammar book from start to end. When did you last touch an English grammar book or last actively studied English? If he had to ask such question, it's either he is at that level or he's one of those beginners trying to take the easy way out. I assume he's in the former group because if he's in the latter group, there's not much helping him.

>I assume he's in the former group

You're mistaken in your assumption.
Very few people on these threads are at that point - and those who are should know it by that time (instinctively or by simple research).

I'm not saying you're wrong when you claim
>There is a certain point where things are refined more through "practice" than reading a grammar book from start to end

But it's not what he wants.
He wants to learn as a beginner without having to study - I can guarantee you this is what he meant. No anki reps, no brute force, no writing kanji down etc.

studying is a meme, just do some grade A nose candy and watch anime

I don't know where and how to use は instead of が and it's eating out my mind. I do know the first one is used as a topic particle and for contrast purposes; the second one is used as an identifier particle and to introduce new information, but when i'm creating sentences i don't use them properly. At this point i don't know if i'm just plain retarded or if everyone have this same issue

Possibly stupid question. I have a mindless job where I can listen to 40 hours a week of audiobook material. Would just listening to japanese lessons without being able to take notes, read it, or add it to anki in any way, and no going back and re-listening or anything, be helpful?
Use が most of the time, and always for a new subject. Use は if the subject was already brought up. It's like "as for x, it's...". Is what I gleam from it at least, grain of salt. There are some other special rules that I didn't bother remembering.

I'm getting close to the end of core6k. Should I do the remaining vocab in core10k or just exclusively mine at that point?

Mine.

>hrhuhsdub we're full, Jewish Ameritard weeaboos
Fuck this
Fuck your country
Fuck your language
and fuck you
Break away from the US and launch a missile at China or something you pretentious pieces of shit

Hello DJT

how would you explain "リア充爆発しろ" in english?

"it's japanese for REEEEEE"

People living the life should be blasted

Why were these threads removed from /a/? /a/ + /jp/ makes more sense than Jow Forums + /jp/

問題

パンはパンでもたべられないパンは何でしょ、フライパン以外でね

紐パン

正解!

Anyone have the Japanese Level Up (JALUP) anki decks ?

depends on the lesson I guess, I was listening to Pimsleur's Japanese when driving to university
I don't think I actually learned that much, but it didn't hurt either and it's not like I had anything better to do

what does a language learning general do on a board called "International", truly mysterious

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from LotGH
>とはいえ、ローエングラム伯とヤン、両者の登場には、あたらしい時代の予兆を感じさせるなにかがある。両者の今後を注視する必要があるだろう。過大評価かもしれないが、嗅覚はするどく切札は多いにこしたことはないのだ。

I'm having problems with the last part here 嗅覚はするどく切札は多いにこしたことはないのだ
maybe I'm retarded, but I don't really understand what this is trying to tell me

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ダメですw
ここはハムスター禁止ですw

The mods work in mysterious (and faggoty) ways!

>嗅覚はするどく
paying attention(to potential powers such as ヤン and ラインハルト)
>切札は多いに
possessing as many trump cards against them as possible
>こしたことはないのだ
there's nothing like

リヒテンラーデ国務尚書? ブラウンシュヴァイク公?

thanks, I should have googled a bit better, then I'd have noticed j-nihongo.com/nikoshitakotowanai/

who stated it btw? リヒテンラーデ?ブラウンシュヴァイク?

今日は皆さん、今能験のN2を勉強していますがなかなかチャレンジではなくて困っています、そろそろN1を勉強したほうがいいのでしょうか?それともN2の本を最後まで勉強したほうがいいのでしょうか?

I think it's just the narrator talking, but the subchapter was about Rubinsky

何でみんな銀英伝好きなの?

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ああ、門閥貴族の台詞じゃないのか...

because even the unimportant side characters are a 100 times better than that fucking hamster

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For me, that has seemed like just one of dubious SiFi operas studded with author’s fragmentary knowledge of European cultures and history.
And those who were fond of it in classrooms were all prig nerds behaving like what they’re raving about was something totally different from “anime”.
By the way, our class performed a play from Tanaka’s work in 文化祭, but not Gin-Eiden.

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You have garbage taste in everything you post in these threads.

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いちおう二級の教科書最後までやっといたほうがいいんじゃないの?
まあ本で学んだからってすぐ身につく訳じゃないだろうけどね

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LotGh unarguably is one of the best anime out there, if you dispute that you're a faggot

N1とN2は出題される問題の難易度が違いますので、まずはN2に向けて勉強をして基礎を作り
そこからN1に挑戦すると良いでしょう

>ハムスター

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i can't really make out the use of "make good time". can anyone generate some sentence with it?

It has a pretty narrow usage. Usually used in the context of travelling or racing when someone covers a distance in a time above (or sometimes around) their expectations. So something like:

>He made good time on the second leg of the Tour de France
>We made good time once we got off the high way

youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Psw0R_9QQ

oh now i totally got the hang of it, i'm grateful to you for filling me in on the meaning. because the accompanied explanation of the idiom in Japanese didn't seem to be in conformity with the actual example, so i got confused. now i can use it frequently because my hobby is traveling by bicycle

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キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!

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Stupid question here, is there a way to "figure out" what single kanji means even if you don't know that particular one ? I have katakana and hiragana memorized so even if I don't know what word exactly means, I can figure it out by reading it partially and most of the time it makes sense, used similiar logic to learn english. But if I have a single kanji that I have no idea what is it, how do I get around it ? There are so many that my lazy ass will never memorize all of them.

Have you looked into radicals yet?

No, being honest most of my japanese was learnt from watching anime, playing diablo 2 mod where runewords were made out of hiragana and having a piece of paper with katakana on my desk so i'd memorize characters when I'm bored. I never actually read any "how to learn japanese" books or videos or whatever, it simply doesn't work for me. The radicals for kanjis seem to be what I was looking for, that's probably the next part I need to learn. Thanks user.

Some Kanji words which we are likely to be able to read but not write without a dictionary.

>絨毯:carpet
>真鍮:brass
>瑪瑙:agate
>齧歯類:rodents

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>齧歯類
>gnaw... tooth... kind
>knaagtandsoort

「齧歯類」が蘭学から言葉ですか?

I guess one more stupid question for today from me, how many kanjis approximately do I have to learn to read doujins ? That's really the only use I have for learning japanese.

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かも知れないです
>mammal: 哺乳類
>reptile: 爬虫類
>amphibian: 両生類
>primate : 霊長類
>Cephalopods : 頭足類

学術用語は明治時代にヨーロッパ語から直訳した言葉もたくさんあるはずです。

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realistically there isn't any way around the 2136 jouyou kanji, even if the indivual doujin have much less in them
from my experience I'd say the more 日本語 you learn the more interest you lose in stereotypical weeb stuff, so eventually you'll (need to) learn a lot more kanji maybe something around 2,5-3k or more to read stuff in general


anyway I'm off now, if the thread dies I'll probably make another one tomorrow

結局語学習得するには大量に読んで聞くしかない
その点日本語はアニメ漫画ゲームが充実してるからオタクなら直ぐ上達する

About 2000 I guess, but as those Dojin artists are likely to be obsessed with cultural trivias, you would come across a myriad of threatening hieroglyphics in your literature.
Not a short way indeed...

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>over 2000 moonrunes to enjoy porn
Oh god, I am bored, but am I 2000 kanjis bored ? The thing I'm worried about the most is forgetting the language if I don't use it often, and outside of various japanese porn material there isn't really much to go on.

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And simply memorizing those 2000 characters is not enough. Compounds of them have their own meaning. Yes in most cases they would be reasonable by analogy, but could be totally unpredictable sometimes.

>排 : discharge
>卵 : egg
>排卵 : ovulation

>陰 : shade
>間 : between, space
>陰間 : male prostitutes

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その冗談ガキの使いでも見たんだが
有名な冗談?

moot had a bad day, I suppose.
He did that sonygger-filter shit to /v/ around the same time, only to leave the site a short while later.

Well, the easiest way would be to install one of those numerous Kanji Recognizer apps available on the app store of your choice.
I think the Windows IME has something similar built-in, but I have never used it.

You guys have over 2000 different letters, how the fuck do you guys type out anything on a computer?

I refuse to believe that isn't explained in the guide.
RTFG

If all you care about is porn, then quit while you're ahead. It's rewarding to learn a language but mostly from the shit you get to experience along the way. It's probably more pain than its worth for just some tiddies

Japanese guy has videos of using Jow Forums to study English:
youtube.com/channel/UCVx6xun68CZORItm4Zp02nA/videos

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I'm having trouble understanding the red frame. How is "敬ってねー" used here and what does "差異から来るイヤミ" mean?

Just look at the pictures.

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>敬ってねー
Colloquial pronunciation of
“敬ってない”
so then the whole meaning of
>そういう所が敬ってねーって言ってんの!
would be
>I am saying your attitude like that is proving your totally not paying respect for me!

>身体的な差異から来るイヤミ
is
>sarcasm derived from the physical difference (between us)
as 185cm is being very tall for Japanese while 138 is far below the standard even of us.

Did it suffice your question?

Btw, I could clearly envisage what would happen after 4-5 pages are turned over...

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