>the American police from one state can't enter the next state to chase a criminal >the German police can enter Poland while chasing a criminal and even arrest him in the territory of Poland (still within the German law)
yes, but within the Polish law and they have to get a permission from our police, unless he's a Pole who commited a crime in Germany and they're chasing him, so they can arrest him in Poland within the German law
but joint Polish-German patrols are pretty common in western Poland and German policemen can fine you for speeding for example (but within the Polish law).
>le face of a bald Polish nationalist in his 20-year-old BMW getting fined for speeding in Poland by a German policeman
there is a lot of butthurt in our media every time it happens though
Parker Wood
>WW1 started because Serbia refused to allow Austrian police into their country to investigate a crime because it would compromise its national sovereignty Makes you think
When have Germans EVER enforced a rule? You make it sound like we're rule-addicted robots.
Elijah Hall
It's much more complicated for that in the USA
>If the police officer is in another state, they generally have no authority to serve a warrant or arrest as an officer of the law in that other state. Except in a case where the officer crosses state lines in "hot pursuit" of a suspect -- in which case they may be granted limited authority to continue the pursuit and effect the arrest while the other state musters its resources.
damn. If a german cop were enforcing german law here in Norway, and were going to arrest me for breaking one of their laws(but not one of ours), I would fucking kill that cop.
Ethan Moore
>i think they can track the pole and give the polish police the location and more info, but not arrest the person by themself
they can arrest him (in a sense of stopping him not getting him to prison though) and search him
You would get in the back of the polizei 540i beemer and dream about rullstol jenter.
Brayden White
when everybody is dead, nobody is
Benjamin Ortiz
This was already a part of the Benelux agreement which predates the EU.
Jordan Cooper
>Except in a case where the officer crosses state lines in "hot pursuit" of a suspect -- in which case they may be granted limited authority to continue the pursuit and effect the arrest while the other state musters its resources.
Does it mean that all these Hollywood movies where they are chasing a very dangerous criminal and stop just before the state border while the criminal is running away and laughing were lying to me?
Oliver Williams
>oooh look at me, i KNOW things!
No one likes a know-it-all, Niels.
Jackson Morgan
No you idiot.
A gang of Moroccans has been operating from the Netherlands and they would drive into Germany at night to plunder ATMs at locations 10 minutes from the border. German police was allowed to chase them into the Netherlands until Dutch police takes over, which would have given them to Germany if they caught them
Lincoln White
oh, that changes everything
Josiah Bennett
thats right
Gavin Wood
yes
Christian Sanders
Agreements like these are not exclusive to the EU and are necessary if you’re going to have open borders. It also only applies to police chases, but also allows for easier police support in case of for example Luxembourg having to deal with a big terrorist attack
Dylan Jones
This, and it can't be forgotten that this is the primary reason for these deals. If they didn't exist then it'd be relatively easy to pull off a major terror attack near the border of say Germany, and then escape into France, Belgium, Luxembourg. And not be able to be pursued.
Easton Martinez
a cop can chase a criminal across state lines but if he loses him he has to get the neighboring state involved or the feds.
James Ramirez
I want to see you saying such things while arrested and searched by a German policeman in America within the German law
Caleb Miller
I got pulled over by this. There is a G*rman and Dutch cop in it, so they can write you a ticket in your language and you get fucked by the law depending on what side of the border you are. No one is safe anymore. It's all ogre.
I know it's not the same thing But in American Samoa (which is legally American territory) Samoan (Samoa the country) authorities can prosecute you for violating their laws At least I think this is the case
Adrian Wilson
I can't think of any movie where they stop at state lines. Plenty of running to Mexico though.
Jordan Hall
>be an American in America >carry a gun >be arrested by a German policeman >get 10 years in prison for having a gun illegally according to the German law
German cops cannot arrest you in Poland for breaking German law in Poland. They can chase you for breaking German law in Germany and fleeing into Poland.
It’s no surprise a Pole would have a problem with this.
Carson Williams
I feel safer when I know german cops protect me from p*lish thieves
Nathaniel Hill
Talk about a media shitstorm. How about Russian thieves coming from Kaliningrad? Your cops would be mowed down by machine guns if they crossed that border.
William King
>How about Russian thieves coming from Kaliningrad?
There are none, at least I never heard of them. There's no point to steal anything in poor Poland, also the Polish-Russian border is quite heavily guarded.
I understand how in that particular case, it would be useful. But it's being used for extraditions of native citizens to a foreign country, for breaking the laws in the foreign country too.
That's not how sovereign independent nation states works. You can't enforce foreign laws, in your own country, and call yourself independent.
Let's say a Swede breaks that new speech law in Poland. Perfectly understandable that the Swede needs to face trial if the Polish authorities manages to get hold of him, on Polish soil.
But, if he manages to get to Sweden, even though he's a Swedish citizen, and he's broken no Swedish law, the Swedish police is then obligated to enforce Polish law, on Swedish soil.
>Let's say a Swede breaks that new speech law in Poland.
Oh, but if he started to deny Holocaust, you would be already fine with him getting arrested anywhere, right?
Ethan Martinez
I do not get arrested if I break Poland's speech law in the Netherlands.
Joseph Hughes
It is the good system. Our police wait for re-entry in the criminal of the Third World escaping abroad and arrest them.
Anthony Powell
nope.
The same goes for a Pole that do something our child protective services wouldn't accept in Norway.
Let's say a Pole breaks Norwegian law, in Norway. Maybe he gives his kid a spanking or something. He then gets out of Norway, and is back home in Poland. Not sure if spanking your kids is legal in Poland, but that doesn't matter.
Norway want him extradited, for breaking Norwegian law.
Polish authorities should absolutely not enforce Norwegian law, in Poland, against Polish citizens.
Dylan Barnes
This is the American southwest man. Everyone has some sort of SUV, pickup truck or dirt bike that can take you across the unpaved desert.
Jason Peterson
can confirm, all my neighbors have a pickup truck and I have a small SUV
Noah Bennett
that's not the point. The law is still enforced, in an area where the law has no jurisdiction.
A country should not betray its citizens to another country's legal system.
If I kill a guy in the Netherlands, then get back home before the cops find me, of course I should face trial, and be sent to jail. But as long as I'm in Norway, being a Norwegian citizen, it should be the Norwegian laws and justice system being enforced. So I would be tried and convicted in Norway.
Wyatt Wood
Well, I thought all Americans have SUVs, even in big midwest cities, yet still I can't see how you drive through a desert and get into another country while being chased by the police in a SUV.
Jaxon Thompson
American laws are just retarted if that's true
Hudson Thomas
More like their states are real states, not like the "states" in Europe
Aiden Foster
there either should be a guarded border or a pass for the police. to let the known criminal just escape like that is stupid
Luke Young
Most police officers don't drive in SUV and in any case, it's laughably easy to offroad across the America-Mexico border. There's pretty much nothing in the way.
Dominic Baker
probably not, but they should
Adrian Watson
#BuildTheWall to protect Mexico from American criminals!
Mason Jones
Lets be real you would spread your boipussy for free in hopes of getting raped
Nicholas White
>Lets be real you would spread your boipussy for free in hopes of getting raped
As would I.
Juan Ortiz
Just to make it clear none of these are acceptable: >Native citizen arrested in his native land, extradited to a foreign land, for breaking a foreign law in his native land, that is not against native law >Native citizen arrested in his native land and extradited to a foreign land, for something that is against the law in the foreign land, but not in the native land >Native citizen arrested in native land, extradited to foreign land for breaking a law which exists in both lands >Foreign citizen arrested in native land, for breaking foreign law, but not native law extradited to foreign land
The only acceptable scenarios: >Foreign citizen, arrested and extradited to foreign country, for breaking both native and foreign law in foreign country >Native citizen, arrested, and incarcerated, but not extradited, for breaking native law in foreign country
No country with any sort of self respect will extradite their own citizens to another country. That's banana republic tier.
Carter Rodriguez
Was this done once? From myexperience they aren't allowed, even if it's a terrorist or something. That's why this one truck driver got shot in Italy from Italian police. We can't even manage to let Police from Hamburg work in Lower Saxony, it's not allowed.
Liam Howard
It's not retarded, because the police knows it's personal social environment and crime relations in it's own district the best. Before somebody else fucks around there, you just give a command to the other police for extradition.
What the fuck are you imbeciles sperging about? Of course you can’t be arrested for breaking a foreign law in your own country, or else all of us would be in British jail
Joseph Jenkins
Would probably end like the Warsaw uprising for you too :^)
Camden Wood
with Russians siding with Nazis again, just before end of the war?
Hunter Williams
Yeah and they literally just call ahead while they are chasing the person and the cops in the next state or country are waiting for them.
Anthony Hernandez
>go to the polish border >shout that poland did the holocaust >race back to the german border The only thing I would get is a ticket for speeding. Your killer would spend time in jail in the Netherlands.
Michael Hall
What if a guy from a Shariat cunt kills you, gets back and according to Shariat, he didn't do nuffin wrong?
Xavier Campbell
Did you even read the post?
Thomas Wood
>No one likes a know-it-all Where do you think you are?
Anthony Walker
my friend got fined in austria for overtaking an undercover police car in a road where it was forbidden. I was with him in the car and I lolled hard.