You are learning languages aren't you user?

They changed the system. Now things don't degrade but if you want to max a lesson you gotta repeat it a LOT more. Before it was maybe 10 questions per parts of a lesson so a 3 parts lesson would be 30 questions. Now a 3 parts lesson would be 300+ questions to max out. But you only need to do the very minimum to have it count as done so you can access lower stuff, basically the learning is more for you to control.

just noticed Portuguese is represented by a BR flag
that's sad lmao

This confuses and enrages the Portuguese

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I found duolingo to be a bit of a meme

>Update

I hated it before the changes, now I find using it a lot more palatable, it's better divided, instead of long super tedious lessons you have shorter faster ones so you can chain them quickly. It's closer to Memrise now it feels.

Dude. English affords more opportunities than German/French/Chinese. English speakers have a much easier time getting jobs internationally. It is the language of entertainment. It is the language of diplomacy. It is the language of business.
Non-Anglophone countries teach English as a second language, not German, not Chinese, not French.

I might have to try again
Might give pastaspeak a try this time
>tfw they have esperanto and fucking klingon but not Latin
why

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I know all of that, except that.
So how does that make it harder for an English speaker to learn a completely irrelevant language like Finnish than for a German speaker to learn a completely irrelevant language like Finnish?

Hmm French is the language of diplomacy. And French is taught as a second language in Belgium and Switzerland.

Latin is really complex grammatically, I'm almost fluent in Italian and I found Latin really difficult (besides the vocabulary which is really similar of course)

I find the new system is rather meh for me though.

Well you’re right that got super irrelevant languages like Finnish, it’s probably the same for German and English speakers.
However, for languages that are more relevant there is a difference. English speakers are going to have little motivation learning German because they’ll be thinking to themselves “what’s the point of this” the entire time. Meanwhile Germans are going to be much more motivated in learning English because they’ll have much wider access to jobs or entertainment or whatever

Don't open another string of argumentation. That's not relevant to my point and he is so stupid that he will jump at it instead of realizing that he is confusing something being less useful with something being harder.

>Well you’re right
Good.
>something else I already knew
ok

That’s what I was saying from the beginning, you’re the one that couldn’t read and made up a random argument you fucking retard

Im learning Spanish.

But I just did the Dutch entrance test and got lots of points. I only misspelled sandwich (boterham) for some reason.

Probably going to pick up German again yeah. Had to stop because I was busy but I have more free time now.

>learning languages is hard because I speak English
>oh wait! If I was a German speaker learning languages would still be equally hard but that's what I was saying from the beginning

I replaced procrastination with duolingo, now i think i average 200 points per day

Also, the Dutch robo-voice assignments are terrible. The robo voice doesn't articulate properly.

how long did it take to read italian?

Yes. I have an interest in learning or at least improving my skills in Russian and Persian

You mean to understand common written text? I'd say a couple months at most in terms of grammar but more than that for vocabulary, I find their newspaper articles a bit staggering still. They have a weird sentence structure for headlines, like
>mayor arrested, investigation, Monzi: "I didn't know!"

i wouldn't mind learning italian in order to read the great literature and use my hands to speak, what would you say is the hardest part of italian grammar?

I think congiuntivo is the hardest thing. Even Italians don't use it properly a lot of the time. Passato remoto has a shitty conjugation but is kinda rarely used in my experience

No. And neither are you, retard.

Oh but keep in mind trying to read the great literature would be like learning English from a common textbook and then trying to read Shakespeare firsthand. Especially shit like Petrarca or Dante

Ironically I think the issue here is that your English comprehension is shit.

Well, everyone on Jow Forums has to learn Newfag.

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Yet even more ironically, the real problem is that I am better at differentiating between nuances in the meaning of words even when debating in your own language.

I am fluent in 2 languages and am conversational in a 3rd (Spanish), what about you nigger?

you're using more than duolingo, aren't you user?

Ja
Ja
Da

>Duolingo

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I use real people to practice with.

>duolingo
>learning languages
Don't kid yourself.

Only reason to learn another language is if you have an intense interest in the media native to that language (e.g. a weeb learning Japanese). In order to learn a language in the first place, you have to read and listen to a fuck load of stuff in that language (we're talking years of daily several-hour exposure), so you absolutely have to be interested in the content or you simply won't do it.

If you're actually interested in the language, "motivation" should never even factor into it.

you stupid fuck, you're not fluent in any language. use more than duolingo you delusional faggot.

About to finish my German tree and decided some Junger is going to be my first real read into the literature.
What language should I pick next?They don't add Latin cause it's not considered a "living" language

What he's saying is that, when you already know English, you automatically have access to massive amounts of (originally) non-English content via translations, which gives you much less of a reason to bother learning a foreign language.

e.g. If you're considering learning German because you're interested in a handful of German films or something, but all of those films have English subtitles (extremely likely), is it really worth spending years learning German just so you don't have to use the subs? For the vast majority of people, the answer is "no".

He didn't say it was hard, he said it was hard to stay motivated.

when anglos know more than one language, all the other anglos live in pure envy due to being a monolingual brainlet. you're considered a god in australia if you know more than one language

>portuguese
>flag of brazil

Should I do the Dutch duolingo course?

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just learn german instead

This isn't my first rodeo dude. I learn stuff on Duolingo, then I apply that in conversation with people, I learn new words from the, grammar, I also play video games in German and pick up grammar and vocabulary from them.

fuck off, you're a delusional pseud.

>duolingo
If you actually want to learn a language, no. Duolingo is for people who want to feel like they're learning without actually learning anything.

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>Hmm French is the language of diplomacy
Lmao not for 100 years
>And French is taught as a second language in Belgium and Switzerland.
You mean two countries where French speakers make up a large portion of the population? It's not like the French themselves bother to learn other languages. Walloons virtually never bother to learn Dutch whereas many Flemings can speak French.

I already did the german tree
Okay how about only to a reading level, which duolingo is fine for getting to at A2?

To be fair you do learn the language, although one might ask if learning the language enough to tourist around with fluidity counts as "learning the language".

I wanted to learn French but Calculus got in the way, then I gave up and wanted to try Japanese but Electromagnetism got in the way (and is still)
When things in college get a little smoother, I'll sure pick a language and learn it

Or maybe people learn in different ways. I pick up on things by seeing it applied in examples, reading grammar doesn't work very well for me. That's how I learned Spanish, I built a base and used it and looked up words and things I didn't know and eventually I got to a level where I can have a good conversation.

that is completely absurd, you're just memorising phrases, not actually constructing sentences through intuition. i'd understand this approach if you were a child as their language acquisition skills are far more distinct to an adult's but as an adult, you need to engage with the grammatical foundations or you have no chance with learning the language. now go actually learn a language and stop humiliating yourself.

i didn't say "do the duolingo german course", i said learn german. there's a great difference between the two

same

What part of "I learn the grammar through seeing it applied in examples" don't you get?

It's two side of a different coin. Learning how something works and understanding how something works both end the same way.

Have you literally never took apart something to look how it worked? Or spent time observing a machine to figure out its secrets? It works the same way for me. Besides if you want the grammar explained the fucking thing comes with grammar pages explaining the grammar of every lesson.

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>norwegian
>danish
>swedish
Is this the equivalent of people who speak spanish and portuguese and pretend they actually learned another language?

Meh I'm only interested in reading and translating the language, not much for speaking. Already can translate most songs I listen to

Swedish is actually a bit different from the other two. Norwegian and Danish are so similar it's a wonder why one if not a dialect of the other. But I dabbled in all 3 at very different periods. I was mostly using Memrise for Swedish though, thus the lower level.

no

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i guarantee you're applying those rules with extreme error. and no, its not two sides of the same coin when it comes to linguistics, it's completely different. to fully grasp a second language as an adult, it's only possible through learning its grammatical intricacies and not just through translating shit on google translate and translating sentences on duolingo. unless you're a child (which i highly suspect given these posts), your method won't work. but since you're on Jow Forums acting like a massive pseud, you're just a retarded adult instead. everyone you "converse" with in one of your "conversational" or "fluent" languages are laughing at your shitty morphology, syntax, phonetics and semantics.

t. never learned portuguese but thinks has a say in the matter

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I completed the French tree on Duolingo long ago and then took two undergraduate French classes.
>tfw too beta to practice French with my Francophone friends

More like
t. have daily calls with brazilians at work while not knowing portuguese

Actually linguistics has shown that learning it from both ways keeps the brain active in different parts and can infact help with preventing memory loss if you learn it the kids way.

interesting trivia, but that doesn't mean you're learning the language.

Of course. But I don't really use duolingo anymore. I broke down and started paying for lingq and a proper textbook.

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How many languages do you speak bono?

I do customer service in 3 different languages and I've never had any issues whatsoever. Besides I'm not sure what kind of fucking intricacies you're looking for. Grammatical rules in most languages are very simple, the difficulty comes from learning where exactly to use it, not how, and that's something you can only learn through practice and making mistakes. If it was any different for an adult, doing an immersion in another country would not be the best way to learn a language, but yet it is, because constant exposure and use of the language is how you learn. Yes there's always a risk of making mistakes and embedding them, and correcting them is really the only way where you really need to stop and go look shit up (or have it explained), and yes there are things that you should definitely read on about (For instance the subjective tense in Spanish), but the great majority of grammar can be guessed through exposure and usage, Finnish cases for instance, which are highly consistent.

Then there's shit like Rections that are literally only learned by exposure unless you want to sit at a desk and learn hundreds of verbs and what case to use with them, I prefer doing it organically.

yay Duolingo Norwegian

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Why arent you learning French leaf bro?

THEY THINK DUOLINGO IS "LEARNING LANGUAGES"

because millions of people in this country actually speak french fluently so he wouldn't be able to LARP as speaking it without getting called out

Varför lär du de nordiska språk? Jävla äckliga språk favä, bör lära dig mongolisk om du vill få nån asiensk fitta

nothing personnel,,,, kid...

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I agree. I was always interested in languages from the linguistic theory perspective but I was not motivated at all to actually learn them. I got bored pretty quickly of reading, say, French local news, meh.

Tysk er ikkje et virkeligt språk favæ

does duolingo even help? i'm trying italian now and it doesn't seem like it's teaching me the right things

>implying there's anything to learn in fucking python
it's not like you're going to use it anywhere where performance actually matters in the first place, so being an actual good programmer doesn't really matter. might as well just google what you need to do and get the package that does the job

Yeah you don't know shit

Norsk og dansk ser liknende ut skriftlig (om norsk som vi snakker om er bokmål) men de er ju forskjellige i uttale.

it kind of helps with learning conjugations and vocab but it desperately needs to be used in conjunction with other learning methods

>try to learn french
>give up like i give up in everything else
i'm sorry frenchbros

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