Can Rus' be considered a viking state???
Can Rus' be considered a viking state???
Zachary Reed
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Daniel Richardson
Of course, Ragnar Lodbrok was russian.
Tyler Perry
Yes, Vikings founded Rus.
Adrian Fisher
But you said Rurik was Finngoloid, so you are still Asian, Too bad Jaroslav!
Austin Gutierrez
Not really.
Would you consider Norman England a French state?
Jeremiah Richardson
Original "russians" or simply Rus'/Rhos were Scandinavians, not Slavs.
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>According to the earliest East Slavic record, the Primary Chronicle, the Rus' were a group of Varangians who lived, along with other groups like Swedes and Gutes in present day Sweden in Scandinavia and as far as the land of the English and the French. The Varangians were first expelled, then invited to rule the warring Slavic and Finnic tribes of Novgorod:
>The Muslim diplomat and traveller Ahmad ibn Fadlan, who visited Volga Bulgaria in 922, described the Rus' (Rusiyyah) in terms said to suggest Norsemen
>Apart from Ibn Fadlan's account, Normanist theory draws heavily on the evidence of the Persian traveler Ibn Rustah who, it is postulated, visited Novgorod (or Tmutarakan, according to George Vernadsky) and described how the Rus' exploited the Slavs.
>In his 891 Treatise on the Regions, the Muslim geographer Ya'qubi mentions the 844 sack of Seville in Al-Andalus by Vikings, noting that the city was penetrated by "al-Majus [Vikings] who are called al-Rus, who took captives slaughtered, burnt and plundered."
>When the Varangians first appeared in Constantinople (the Paphlagonian expedition of the Rus' in the 820s and the Siege of Constantinople in 860), the Byzantines seem to have perceived the Rhos (Greek: Ῥώς) as a different people from the Slavs. At least no source says they are part of the Slavic race. Characteristically, pseudo-Symeon Magister and Theophanes Continuatus refer to the Rhos as Δρομῖται (transliterated as Dromitai), a word related to the Greek word meaning a run, suggesting the mobility of their movement by waterways.
>His description represents the Rus' as a warlike northern tribe. Constantine also enumerates the names of the Dnieper cataracts in both
Grayson Turner
Check this Jaroslav
>Ingegerd Olofsdotter of Sweden, also known as Irene, Anna and St. Anna (1001 – 10 February 1050), was a Swedish princess and a Grand Princess of Kiev. She was the daughter of Swedish King Olof Skötkonung and Estrid of the Obotrites and the consort of Yaroslav I the Wise of Kiev. Ingegerd or St. Anna is often confused with the mother of St. Vladimir “the Enlightener” of the Rus. This is mainly because Ingegerd and Yaroslav also had a son named Vladimir. However, St. Vladimir was the father of Ingegerd’s husband Yaroslav I “the Wise”, thus making her St. Vladimir’s daughter-in-law. St. Vladimir was the son of Sviatoslav and Malusha.
Jaxon Walker
Rhos and in Slavic languages. The Rhos names have distinct Germanic etymology
>The Rus'–Byzantine Treaties give a valuable insight into the names of the Rus'. Of the fourteen Rus' signatories to the Rus'–Byzantine Treaty in 907, all had Norse names. By the Rus'–Byzantine Treaty (945) in 945, some signatories of the Rus' had Slavic names while the vast majority had Norse names.
>The first Western European source to mention the Rus' are the Annals of St. Bertin. These relate that Emperor Louis the Pious' court at Ingelheim, in 839, was visited by a delegation from the Byzantine emperor. In this delegation there were two men who called themselves Rhos (Rhos vocari dicebant). Louis enquired about their origins and learnt that they were Swedes. Fearing that they were spies for their brothers, the Danes, he incarcerated them.
>Another source comes from Liutprand of Cremona, a 10th-century Lombard bishop who in a report from Constantinople to Holy Roman Emperor Otto I wrote that he had met the Rus whom we know by the other name of Norsemen.
Never said he was a Finngol. Or that modern inhabitants of Ukraine, Belarus, Russia are descendants of Varangians. Although some probably are, in the northern regions.
But they founded the Rus' state, they were the elite and the ruling dynasty and they gave their name to all the inhabitants of the Rus'.
Wyatt Allen
Scandi and slavs are cultures not races.
Nathan Gray
If you worshiped oddinn and had scandi culture you were norse, christians were not and never coukd be scandinavian
Jayden Stewart
More like cuck state
Anthony Walker
Jace Cook
>a wild burger appears
Rus' were not Christian initially. They adopted it later just like other Vikings.
No, that would be the Commonwealth.
Carter Bell
Russians, my brothers :)
Matthew Foster
Modern swedes were culturally genocided, they have no cultural continuity with the norse, they dont worship Odinn.
Jacob Martinez
Mason Flores
So hol up, you be sayin dat we be russians n shit?
Dominic Hall
>11th-century fresco of the St. Sophia Cathedral in Kiev representing the daughters of Ingegerd and Yaroslav I, with Anna probably being the youngest. Other daughters were Anastasia wife of Andrew I of Hungary, Elizabeth wife of Harald III of Norway, and perhaps Agatha wife of Edward the Exile
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Jeremiah Parker
actually yes since they did raid constantinople one time but it is made of many states, kiev being the center but the dynasty was never able to unify the rus as one people, the separate rus principalities just took a member of the rurik dynasty to rule over them, the ruriks were as much their prisoners
Jace Smith
You are original Russians. Finns still call you Ruotsi.
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Carson Lee
>oddinn
Meh, just an old dude with a staff.
We combined him with Thor and made them into a single deity named Perun.
Caleb Morales
A land of viking rape babies only, and only the western part (excluding south west).
Hunter Peterson
>Would you consider Norman England a French state?
Well the Normans weren't REEAALLY French, just recently Frenchified scandinavians.
Colton Powell
t. self-hating libshit
Jace Mitchell
It's year 2018, dude. No any vikings left.
Carson Hill
That's not entirely true. Initially it wasn't defragmented.
Feudal fragmentation happened in the beginning of 12 century, but this process was going on in many other European countries. And if not for the Mongol invasion, it would probably end the same way as in other countries - with centralization.
Justin Phillips
Or a jew.
Angel King
Even if i were a birdman from Venus it wouldn't make what i said incorrect.
Also liberals don't exist in Russia, and you don't even know what "liberal" means.
Lucas Long
t. self-hating libshit
Sebastian Price