DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #2004

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>いや、「Der Untergang」のMADは全世界に人気だったんだろう
あれ、日本だけじゃなかったんだw

>youtube.com/watch?v=9pbIrMtmU98
でも、日本のと比べると何か真面目だw

>どれ?
ああ、ごめん
これだw ↓
dic.nicovideo.jp/a/scheisse!
Scheisse!とは (シャイセとは) [単語記事] - ニコニコ大百科

>PCはたしかに問題だが、それまでとは言わない
確か、90歳近いお婆さんがホロコースト否定して逮捕されたんでしょ
ドイツは、WW2の前も中も後も言論の自由がない国なんだなあと思ったw

newshonyaku.com/erman/politics/2018/03/04
【ドイツ:深刻】メルケルの「警察国家」で危機に瀕する言論の自由

gendai.ismedia.jp/articles/-/52164
「言論弾圧」を次々と…!ドイツ政府の危険な兆候

dw.com/en/germany-implements-new-internet-hate-speech-crackdown/a-41991590
Germany implements new internet hate speech crackdown

lovezjapan.blog.jp/archives/71236110.html
>新ジャンル:リベラルファシズム

You are a really bad hamster

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>lovezjapan
triple yuck

Should I keep learning kanji mixed in words in Anki 2k or should I switch to learning kanji individually. I still haven't started reading material.

individual kanji study should just be something you do on the side as a supplement

I personally had success studying them individually, but it took a fair amount of time and effort to get through them, so I'm honestly not sure if it was worth it. I doubt there's any data out there to draw any conclusions on which method is better, so 99% of the time people here are just going to tell you to do whatever method they used.

What he said As a personal opinion, I think it's better to study Kanji in context/combination rather than individually. It isn't efficient to learn them individually, then realize how fucked up some resulting compounds of two kanji in terms of either meaning or pronunciation.

all I know is I wasted months on RTK and I actually made cards for all kanji out of paper and all that shit, I literally have a kanji box
in hindsight I was this close to becoming reddit pasta at times

Maybe what the German poster asked was a Japanese word which is supposed to be totally obscene but people are using it casually in fact I presume.
So, it’d be
>チンカス
Or something or something...
Did I get the point?

Hit 2chan or somewhere for further knowledge...

いやだ!いやだ!
あたしにそんなもんをしないでください!

言った突端にもはやダメだった。
もう見知らぬ男に魔法をかけられたから

彼女の変化はもう始まってしまった

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For reading purposes I think learning kanji with words is probably the best way to learn them. You can do individual kanji study if you have trouble with remembering a specific kanji or if you are mixing up similiar looking kanji

For writing them you would probably have to study individual kanji more

途端に

>I literally have a kanji box
Are physical flashcards reddit? It's my preferred memorization method. The only downside is how much time I waste actually making them. I can't fucking figure out how to print double sided flash cards so I just end up writing the other side by hand :^(

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Flashcards for kana is a meme. You can do physical flash cards for words or kanji but this method is less time efficient than srs.

>Are physical flashcards reddit?
no, I just spend a shit ton of time on making all my cards and then of course for the actual individual kanji study which wasn't efficient in the slightest

This sounds really similar to a Spanish curse word.

御嬢さんの体が細くなっていて、肢体が燃えるプラスチック缶みたいに胴体に溶け込んでいた。

>どの為にあたしにこうしているか?

>こっちから見ればわかる。お前は俺に役立つし、立派な道具になている。

>キャー
と痛みに取られた女子が叫んでいた

彼女の血管が体内から皮膚まで浮かんだ
銅が円柱の形に変えていた

>道具だけ言えばわからない。ともかく止めさせて!!!!
見知らぬ醜い男がただ立ち見していた。

変化はもう最後の段階に至っていた。
彼女の背丈が縮んでいて、頭部はキノコに近い姿に変えていた。
視力を失うまえにニコニコしていた男にこの一言を尋ねた

>もう人間に戻らないのなら攻めてどんな道具になるか説明してください

>まあまあ、変化はもう解けない段階に至ったからだけだ。
その男がズボンとパンツを上げた。
見た背景の所為で御嬢さんが気絶してしまった。
陰茎が切断されたようで付け根には付かなかった。

>道具ってそれだっ・・・
もう喋れなくてただ妙な白っぽい液体だけを大量で吐いて続けた。

実は御嬢さんはもう居なくなった。その代わりに性的障碍者の男の為のチンポが床に倒れていた。

Fin.

>そんなもん
そんなことを

>言った突端にもはやダメだった。
そうは言ったものの、もはや後の祭りだった

>もう見知らぬ男に
もうすでに、見知らぬ男に

>もう始まってしまった
もう始まっていた

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>professional citizen
Astroturf. Maybe.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

Matt vs Japan recommends individual Kanji studying.

>飼い主

I just realized most words don't do the kanji-kana-kanji structure (it's usually kanji-hiragana or pure hiragana, so is this an actual word, or a compound?

Related: what is the formal grammatical term for the -い form of verbs, like 飼う in this case? I'm having a blackout on it.

飼う => 飼い
飼い + 主

>御嬢さんの体が細くなっていて、
彼女の体は細くなっていき

>肢体が燃えるプラスチック缶みたいに胴体に溶け込んでいた。
手脚は燃えるプラスチック缶のように体に溶け込んでいった

>どの為にあたしにこうしているか?
何のために、あたしにこんなことをしているの?

>こっちから見ればわかる。お前は俺に役立つし、立派な道具になている。
ここから見ていればわかる。お前は俺の役に立つ立派な道具になる

>キャーと痛みに取られた女子が叫んでいた
彼女は痛みで「キャー」と叫んだ

>彼女の血管が体内から皮膚まで浮かんだ
彼女の血管は身体の中から皮膚まで浮かび上がった

>銅が円柱の形に変えていた
胴体は円柱の形に変わった

>道具だけ言えばわからない。ともかく
どう言えばいいかわからない。とにかく

>ただ立ち見していた。
ただ立ったまま見つめていた。

>彼女の背丈が縮んでいて、
彼女は背は縮み、

>変えていた。
変わっていった

>視力を失うまえにニコニコしていた男に
視力を失う前、彼女はニヤついていた男に

>説明してください
教えてください

>まあまあ、変化はもう解けない段階に至ったからだけだ。
???

>その男が
その男は

>見た背景の所為で御嬢さんが
目に入った光景のせいで、彼女は

> what is the formal grammatical term for the -い form of verbs, like 飼う in this case?
renyoukei

>陰茎が切断されたようで付け根には付かなかった。
陰茎が切断されたらしく、それは付け根には付かなかった。

>もう喋れなくてただ妙な白っぽい液体だけを大量で吐いて続けた。
彼女はもう喋ることもできず、奇妙な白っぽい液だけを大量に吐き続けた

>実は御嬢さんはもう居なくなった。
彼女はもう居なくなった

>その代わりに性的障碍者の男の為のチンポが床に倒れていた。
その代わり、インポテンツの男の為のペニスが床に落ちていた

荒らしネタの文章を直しくれてありがとう。
きっとやくに立つよ。

how many westerners that speak japanese actually live in japan? seems like any time i look at real statistics it's such a small number they basically dont exist compared to the pinoy/chinese/korean etc expats, but on the internet you weebs are fuckin everywhere

だいぶ上手くなってきたなw
理解できる文章が増えてきたよ
これからも頑張れ

>so is this an actual word, or a compound?
why even draw a distinction, I think it's a bit like asking if lawn mower isn't an actual word

inb4 some linguist comes at me, I don't care

褒めてくれてありがとうな!

>how many westerners that speak japanese actually live in japan?
about 3 or 4

>renyoukei
Yes, thank you!

>why even draw a distinction
So that dictionaries don't have to list Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän.

I do SRS. I just use the physical flash card rote to remember my daily new words.

I'm watching a vid comparing songs from different games and, as expected, people are giving their opinions.
However a lot of people after stating what they liked, ended the sentence with "好きかな"
I was under the impression that かな was supposed to mean like "I wonder.." or "Hmm.."
I'm thinking it's because it's rude to directly state a opinion, so they try to minimize it but using かな, but that's just a guess.

link? sounds a bit strange 2bh if it's not meant as a question

youtube.com/watch?v=91KsAyItdtM

I'd read it like "I guess I like the xth one (best)" or something along those lines

アイラブジャパニーズをスタディーする!

Olá favaleiro.

we need more burger to pick up learning japanese

アメリカのバーガーです。日本語を勉強します。

I liked that idea you (or the other german guy) had a few weeks back to expand the content of the thread to anime and other shit to boost posting to but I suspect I'm in the minority on that. Everyone on this fucking board seems obsessed with anime though, even the ex-yugo generals have been overrun by it so maybe it would work.

You speak pretty good English, Serbja-san. I might be able to study Japanese with you some time. Wanna do it?

Well I'm native speaker so I should hope my English is good. I've only been studying for a few months though so I don't think there would be any benefit to either of us at this stage. I just like to hang around here cause the communal feel I get makes me less likely to say fuck it and quit as I'm prone to do.

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/a/ gets everywhere, it's in the nature of Jow Forums after all.

Maybe burgers go to /jp/'s DJT.

Started fresh last Saturday. Almost done with hiragana.

Thanks, it was worth a try I guess, but as some other user said there most likely isn't a real reason to visit a japanese media general over the specific boards

Ah okay, that's fine too.

There's plenty, just most have learned Japanese already and have no use for this thread.

Bump before sleep

Oh my nangeye tokey high kin nigh.

What do you read? I'm and encounter maybe 2 per book for modern literary fiction, rarely any for an average LN, 15+ per book for pre-war literature. I plan to continue padding my grid but I would be just fine never learning another kanji ever again except for pre-war literature (which, judging by videos I've seen, the average Japanese is not very good at reading either).

I meant to reply to this guy.

出任せ

Is this a stupid idea? I finally found a jap community paper for my city and there's a ton of ads in it. Some are for english lessons. I kind of want to sign up because it'll put me into contact with a lot of jap speakers. I figure I can show up and maybe make some friends and help them learn english so they help me learn jap. Anyone ever do anything like that before? I'd have to talk to the teacher/organizer of the thing to see if they'd allow it but I think it's a good idea.

You're better off signing up as a teacher rather than a student.

I don't think I'd like teaching at all. One on one tutoring would be nice but I couldn't stand up in front of a class for hours at a time.

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今まで二年間ぐらい日本語を勉強してます。九月に日本に留学する予定です

what's your inducement to study Japanese('ω')

I read relatively easy LNs, VNs and anime.
But I always add words in their kanji form if possible, so I end up getting a lot of kanji for usually-kana words.
Ever seen the words べらぼうめ?あんぽんたん?なきじゃくる?
They're mined as 篦棒目、安本丹、泣き噦る。
After seeing the word 篦棒目 in the dictionary, I looked up the 篦 kanji and found out it is a variant form of 箆, a usually-kana word (へら) which means spatula, so that's another kanji to the pile.

No idea how many new kanji I'd find a day if it weren't for that. I'm done with Jouyou and Jinmeiyou, and there aren't many kanken pre-1 kanji left to learn, next I'll be left with a 2000+ pile of kanken 1 kanji to absorb.

Chinese is easier than this

And I can pick up plenty of Chinese girls with it, but all my cultured media is in Japanese, can I learn both simultaneously?

Not impossible, but bad idea.

i started learning kana for some reason one summer, i think the way it was a symbol for a whole syllable rather than one letter interested me. then a couple of singers i liked motivated me to learn more (二階度和美、チャランポランタン、青葉市子) and now im really interested in kanji

meant to type 二階堂和美

What's the difference between and ?

/jp/djt used to be run by some autist who turned it into ojt, but other than that it's more elitist

>二階度和美、チャランポランタン、青葉市子
i know literally none of them lol can you recommend some of their major songs to me?

青葉市子 is my current favorite, pic related is my favorite album of hers. these songs could give an idea of what her stuff is like
youtube.com/watch?v=Ic1rPVc-jMY
youtube.com/watch?v=vgxsj6rIraM

here's one of my favorites from kazumi
youtube.com/watch?v=aNc5i8bf4zs

チャランポランタン is a bit different from the others, and their first album is the one i listen to the most
youtube.com/watch?v=1GGJ64ABeWM

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Are you using Anki?
I am halfway through hiragana with it and practicing stroke orders as and when I complete a group
Bretty gud so far

thank you i'll give it a shot
youtu.be/uJZHm5_i1vI

さ looks like :^) to me

I don't give a fuck about Japanese language but my new flatmate (girl) moving in soon is fresh off the boat from Japan. Wat do? Is there any cultural shit I have to be prepared for?

(Not looking to bone her just make her feel welcome)

None. She should be the receiving end of the culture shock (given she's the one visiting), not you.

I'm trying to learn Japanese through Duolingo. Why do so many characters look the same? For example, "ro" is ろ, while "ru" is る. So, I think, maybe the "3" shape means "r", and something about that loop in "ru" makes it have an "u" sound. But there are other lookalikes that don't add up - "ku" is く, and "gu" is ぐ. Why is it the same but with those little dashes? Duolingo only teaches me to remember how each symbol sounds, not why they look that way.

is she qt?

first of all, don't use duolingo for japanese.... ever
second of all, why does an A look like A and not like a B? who gives a fuck.. but to answer your question, apparently it went sort of like pic related

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Are you using the app?
Don't use it as it does not have "notes" containing explanations. In fact, avoid Duolingo.

>Duolingo only teaches me to remember how each symbol sounds, not why they look that way.
That's why you read an actual grammar book.
Also the "little dashes" morphs the consonant sound as follows: k -> g, t -> d, s -> z, h -> b.
It's pointless to think why so many characters look the same, it's like asking why is E and F look similar.

oh ok, it's a post from reddit.... moving on

That's... Confusing. So "ku" is written similarly to "gu" because they sound similar, but with your voicebox engaged differently?

But "a" doesn't look like "b" but with two dashes beside it. Why do some Japanese characters look the same but with a sort of accent?

stop trolling and go back to /jp/

okay ;_;

Nice pic but it's really, really far-fetched how the kana morphed from the original kanji.

>確か、90歳近いお婆さんがホロコースト否定して逮捕されたんでしょ
ホロコースト否定するのが犯罪だから、当たり前だろう
なんの問題も見当たらない
>言論の自由がない国なんだなあと思った
それは違う、言論の自由はある
法律に特定されている数少ないところでは制限されているだけだ
最近の「Hate Speech」/「Hassrede」についてのドイツの政治家の対象法は本当にやめて欲しいんだけど

yea, the one for へ always makes me lol
it looks like as if some dude couldn't come up with shit and then just went on lunch break

yes ;_;

why the sad smiley, do you have a gf? otherwise you could give her the dicku maybe

Just admit you want to bone her lol

I want a qt Jap gf tbqh but I look like a Russian henchman

what do you say to my being a cute boy

If you put on some kawaii girl clothes I might consider it, provided it doesn't get back to my homophobic countrymen. Don't want to get ostracized from society, know what I mean

bump

ありがとう日本人さん、あんたは最高の同盟者だよ

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would this shirt help me learn Japanese

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