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>a successful hegemonic imperial monoculture from two thousand years ago means modern multiculturalism 'works'

>Multiculturalism
>One culture:Roman

You mean to tell me that they successfully converted every single person in that whole extension to being 100% roman?

>*ends*

Imperialism. The word you're looking for is imperialism.
You're arguing that imperialism works, not that "multiculturalism" works.

>only culture accepted was the Roman one because this ensured political stability
>multiculturalism

>ywnli Roman Empire
Just give me a time machine NOW

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Also fuck the Jews
My only problems with Vespasian and Hadrian was that they didn't hunt down the stragglers too

Not really? Evety single small tribe in Europe allied with our evemies, bitches like Finns are nongrateful dicks, cosplayer Ukrainians and belarussians pretending to be real nations, Ost Germans with priveleges treating Balts and Russians like trash, etc, etc.

Too bad they went to shit ~300 years later.

>people which lived in those days are dead, but luckily building and artifacts are still there and they say "yeah, we wuz roman".
wtf? I was talking about people at the time. I'm saying that it seems unlikely that they were successful in 100% romanizing people and therefore there were multiple cultures inside their empires but maybe I'm wrong.

Not about taxes, it was about stability. After 300 years of roman domination was a no sense that some populations were not granted the citizenship.

>multiple cultures inside their empires
what do you think generally happened to non-roman cultures that were conquered by the roman empire

>acquiring Roman citizenship was easy
Kek, no. Romans even fought a war with their Italic allies because they were pissed off by the fact that Romans wouldn't want to give them the citizenship. Caracalla extended it in order to raise more taxes and, more importantly, conscript more soldiers

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You understand that the Romans looked down on pretty much anyone born outside the ciy of Rome, no?

You think Portugal Spain and France just decided to speak Latin?

>References to interpreters indicate the continuing use of local languages other than Greek and Latin, particularly in Egypt, where Coptic predominated, and in military settings along the Rhine and Danube. Roman jurists also show a concern for local languages such as Punic, Gaulish, and Aramaic in assuring the correct understanding and application of laws and oaths.[80] In the province of Africa, Libyco-Berber and Punic were used in inscriptions and for legends on coins during the time of Tiberius (1st century AD). Libyco-Berber and Punic inscriptions appear on public buildings into the 2nd century, some bilingual with Latin.[81] In Syria, Palmyrene soldiers even used their dialect of Aramaic for inscriptions, in a striking exception to the rule that Latin was the language of the military.[82]

>The Babatha Archive is a suggestive example of multilingualism in the Empire. These papyri, named for a Jewish woman in the province of Arabia and dating from 93 to 132 AD, mostly employ Aramaic, the local language, written in Greek characters with Semitic and Latin influences; a petition to the Roman governor, however, was written in Greek.[83]

That is pure bullshit. Romans gave no shits to natives.

>>Almost all Gauls are tall and fair-skinned, with reddish hair. Their savage eyes make them fearful objects; they are eager to quarrel and excessively truculent. When, in the course of a dispute, any of them calls in his wife, a creature with gleaming eyes much stronger than her husband, they are more than a match for a whole group of foreigners; especially when the woman, with swollen neck and gnashing teeth, swings her great white arms and begins to deliver a rain of punches mixed with kicks, like missiles launched by the twisted strings of a catapult.

it's not difficult to understand. We can't know what every person did in those days. 100% is a nonsense, some populations fight for indipendence and after few decade they become romans, some ask themselves to rome to become romans (especially germanic tribes). For centuries they protect the limes and the other germanic tribes hate them, they called them "the traitors".

Rome, before Constantine accepted a lot of religions, but imposed a lot of new uses and traditions and some of them are even now a part of european and even north african culture.

They cared as much European colonizers cared about the colonized- none.

Modern times is whites looking down on others, those times Romans gave no shits to their subjects. Who is writing this revisionism??

What are your sources?

>My sources

IRL or on the internet?

>multi culti
>one cultire one religion one emperor one dominant ethnicity

Você está fazendo afirmações mas não posta uma fonte.

what are you even trying to prove with this

why are you trying to explain the history of europe to actual europeans, and awkwardly trying to apply your own modern politics to our history, even though we're the ones who have the actual experience with the reality of it?
it's like you're trying to shill for a political ideology that you don't understand by linking it to a history that you don't understand either

the roman empire was "multicultural" in the sense that it was the (generally violent) death and repression of indigenous european cultures by an overbearing superstate.
Hey, I guess modern 'multiculturalism' is a lot like that actually.
It's not proof it "works" though, unless you admit that the point of multiculturalism is to blur and destroy.

>trying to explain the history of Europe to actual Europeans
I didn't know that a brit was born with automatic knowledge of southern European Rome.

They were romans for 400 years, still a part of their history.

He's pissed off about this thread is why

Eu perguntei que caralho de fontes querias.

Ouve uma coisa: eu vivo aqui, sou nativo daqui. A minha cidade foi das maiores Romanas. Eu dei os Romanos extensivamente na Escola, do Básico ao Secundário. Está neste preciso momento a decorrer a Braga Romana na minha cidade. Vai ao google.

O império Romano era multicultural? Se no sentido em que um grupo conquista e coloniza toda a gente para sua cultura, e esse grupo é a elite sim. De onde achas que vieram as ideias dos Impérios Europeus como o Espanhol, Inglês, Português ou Francês? Já reparaste que os maiores colonizadores foram todos efectivamente, colónias Romanas?

Os Romanos achavam os não Romanos selvagens, da mesma maneira que os Europeus se portaram nas colónias.

>southern European Rome
oh yeah because the Roman Empire never expanded past southern Europe did it
I wouldn't know anything at all about the Roman empire because I wasn't born in the city of Rome, no, in fact I'm sure a Brazillian retard who thinks that the Roman Empire was a shining example of "multiculturalism" 'working' is definitely an authority though, no doubt.

It's not like Britannia is a Roman province on the map that you started this fucking retarded thread with.

until the year 100ad it was mostly homogeneous the moment where the conquest end and the empire lowly eroded until the 3 rd century that was nearly destroyed
then put the new inmirant from the north that didnt have any alleagance to rome and catastrofe is absolute

Everyone all around the world learns about the Romans in school. Our laws are based on the Roman model while yours is common law. our judges literally use Latin phrases. Our language is a Romance language. There's nothing that makes you automatically know about them more than me. I'd say nothing if it was an italian but a fucking brit? Fuck off.

Barbarians changed nothing, christkike propaganda

and of course rome wasnt multicultural the other non roman citizens were second class or slaves so it can be comparable

>Eu dei os Romanos extensivamente na Escola,

Não sou a pessoa com quem você estava falando antes.

Eu "dei" os Romanos?
Que merda significa isso?

Rome ruled Britain for more than 400 years, even after the fall of WRE Romano British people, which were referred as Welsh (meaning foreigner) from Anglo Saxons, resisted the invasions from the east and still had a distinctively roman culture until the beginning of VII century

That doesn't make him be born with automatic knowledge of Rome. He has to study it just like me. We learn Roman history in school. They use common law while we follow the roman model, for example. Our judges use latin phrases.
pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_expressões_jurídicas_em_latim

You're dumb as shit though. You we're dumb as shit in the Babs thread and you're dumb as shit here.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

Why don't you attack what I said instead of my person? That's what intelligent people do.

I'm not intelligent, I'm dumb af, just not as dumb af as you are.

Multiculturalism =/= Rome

Multiculturalism means a lot of people doing whatever they want, no official religion,no imposed traditions,costumes,uses etc.

Rome was and empire united by ONE main culture, the roman one.

No more barbaric cultures, no more human sacrifices, no more dressing in some ways etc..

Not a soyboy empire, for many things similar to fascism

There's literally no reason for you to be shilling for multiculturalism in the first place.
You know what the definitive final-form of a multicultural country is? Brazil.
A shitty poverty-stricken rootless favella-strewn crime-ridden third world non-white mutt shithole with no real actual "culture" to speak of beyond depressing scraps of osmotic materialism.

The Roman Empire wasn't "multicultural" in the modern sense of the word just because its massive imperial boundaries contained multiple indigenous cultures, and it certainly isn't proof that modern multiculturalism works or is in any way desirable. The Roman Empire eradicated cultures and violently enforced its imperial monoculture on people through invasion. Modern multiculturalism destroys distinct natural cultures through social engineering and mass-immigration. That's where the similarity ends and you've taken the absolute most incorrect conclusion from it.

I literally never said I was born with an "automatic knowledge", I just said that it's my history, not yours, and that I'm likely to have a hugely more sophisticated knowledge of my own history than you are, which is demonstrably true.

You're trying to monkeysplain the Roman empire to us, and both Brits AND Italians are calling you a retard for it. Maybe we're right and you're wrong, regardless of whatever you think you picked up in the Brazillian education system? I mean, you've managed to unite both the conquerors AND the conquered of the system that you're awkwardly trying to talk about, in telling you that you know fuck-all about it. It's actually impressive in a way.

Pensei que os Brasileiros entendiam Português Europeu.

Fascism comes from the Roman Empire, it is a literal copy pasta even with the Imperial.Cult, people worshiped Caesar as a Son of the Gods, divine and holy.

When kikestrianitu came so to did Europe leave.

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All Fascists are successors of Rome.

Even Hitler.

To be a Fascist is to be a Roman successor.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=rqu3bndYiYg

All Empires are copies of the Roman one, no other Empire sought total cultural domination and unity by destroying the distinctions of subject lands.

Pois - que significa?
Tem capacidade de dizer?

You contradicted yourself in your post. You say we are multiculturalism and then say we have no culture (deeply ignorant comment)

Favelas are only 6% of our country

If you have true knowledge of it then expose it instead of just claiming you do.

>You say we are multiculturalism and then say we have no culture
Actually what I said is perfectly consistent. What's disingenuously called "multiculturalism" is the death of culture.
A 'multicultural' country is a country with no real culture.

Não não. Eu dei os Romanos é uma maneira de dizer "eu estudei os Romanos" ou "eu tive história dos Romanos". Estás a entender a coisa? É uma coisa que diz muito aqui para o Norte, não sei se é mesma merda lá para baixo.

>Eu perguntei que caralho de fontes querias.
Wtf... Uma fonte que demonstre o que falas, oras. Que tipo de pergunta é esta? Fonte é fonte.

He just did.

Roman Empire being multicultural is a meme. The Roman Empire forced its culture onto others. The Celts in Western Europe vanished, leaving only smalls traces of its culture.
And the conquered people weren't considered Roman, not by a long shot.

Rome being multicultural is a very recent revisionism which is pretty insulting to us that were invaded by them. There was no coexistence of culture. Be absorbed or be fucked.
If Rome was multicultural, then the Western European Empire were too, multicultural.

Tenho livros aqui em casa, na internet não tenho nada.

Basically this, even reading De Bello Gallico by Caesar you can see that some Gauls, like Divitiacus iirc, were referred to as romanized or non romanized Gauls. Either you accepted Rome's culture or you were a barbarian, cases were conquered people kept their culture were extremely rare, such as jews

lmao macaco language

You people are being very literal. When people from other countries go to your country you have to follow the law of European countries and they're also seen as from a less developed place but everyone calls it multiculturalism just for the fact that they come from a different country.

>jews kept culture
Israel was obliterated and jews enslaved, judaism comes much later in 4th century with constantine, judaism was illegal after jew war

>Multiculturalism only works under autocracy
Sounds about right.

True, but it survived after all, mainly because Palestine was a peripheral region of the Empire near the border with the eternal Parthians

>When people from other countries go to your country you have to follow the law of European countries and they're also seen as from a less developed place but everyone calls it multiculturalism just for the fact that they come from a different country.

That's called tourism, not multiculturalism you dumb fuck. Just please stop posting already, it's starting to physically hurt reading all your bullshit.

Define multiculturalism then. You see ALL the time people refering to black french people being in france as "multiculturalism"

Calm down, Sargon.

Multiculturalism implies that 2 cultures are equally important though, what you described is imperialism

>Sargon
but

isn't he like a faggy centrist

Is black christian with 100% african descent in Italy "multiculturalism"?

My bad, I thought you were talking about a conquered country scenario, I mean it's 2 AM over here my brain is starting to play tricks on me

More like uncle tom blacks with no distinct culture or group culture.

No, it's just a black christian

That's not multiculturalism. Multiculturalism implies different cultures all existing at the same time.

In Italy and Portugal if you're not a local or European looking born you're not seen as true Portuguese a so called "Português de Gema" or "Português a sério". Hell immigrants from Brazil to Angola come and play for our national team but are seen as players only, not Portuguese. We're polite to you, we are not rude and tolerate that you are, but we don't consider you from here.
That's just immigration. Not country in Europe is even close to multicultural, because most immigrants live apart from the society of the country, same like Romans and their colonies. They're allowed to participate, but they're not seen as "real" ones.
Multiculturalism is a meme for new worlders, trying to be forced on the West by the US.

Multiculturalism
>the presence of, or SUPPORT for the presence of, several distinct cultural or ethnic groups within a society.

Several cultures >>>LIVING

You see but that's not how people talk about it all the time. So what's happening here is that I'm using the word how it's used on Jow Forums and you're using in a different way.
Look at the Portuguese man above being contradictory about it right now, lmao

That's just shilling for globalism.

In no way we are contradicting each other. You're the one not reading correctly.

It says presence of, OR
Do you know what OR means?
>A or B is true if A is true, or if B is true, or if both A and B are true.

Being black is not a cultural trait

This >A or B is true if A is true, or if B is true, or if both A and B are true.
You genuinely baffle me with your stupidity.

There is A. There is B. Either classifies as multiculturalism. The cultureS(this means plural) have to be living together. Not just visiting, but fucking LIVING with each other in acceptance without imposing on one another.
THAT is what multiculturalism is.
How hard did you fail at reading comprehension in school?

Here's the term for what the Romans did:Cultural Imperialism

>Thus, cultural imperialism is the practice of promoting and imposing a culture, usually that of a politically powerful nation, over a less powerful society; in other words, the cultural hegemony of industrialized or economically influential countries which determine general cultural values and standardize civilizations throughout the world

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_imperialism

Now please try to be less retarded.

Did it though?

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Are you being stupid on purpose solely for the replies ? Just say Portuguese are non-whites in a thread, you'll get more replies.

Jesus christ, your own fucking definition says that the PRESENCE of (OR support for the presence of) several distinct cultural or ethnic groups within a society.
Let me take out B so you little brain can understand (of course you won't concede because you're dishonest)

>the PRESENCE of several distinct cultural or ethnic groups within a society.

YOUR OWN FUCKING DEFINITION, YOU DUMB PIECE OF SHIT. HOW DARE YOU BE THIS DUMB?

THICK BASTARD.

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It says the presence as in a permanent way. There is no fucking way your brain is this underdeveloped.

This is the last time im explaining this shit to you.

There is a village of 100 people with culture A.
50 people of culture B visit it. They interact but they do not live with each other.
NOW, if those 50 people of culture B decided to live in that village then one of 2 things could possibly happen:
Multiculturalism where culture A and B live peacefully with each other.

or

Cultural imperialism. Where the villagers, being the dominant culture enforce their culture on the newcomers and Culture A dominates over culture B.
THAT is NOT multiculturalism despite being multiple cultures because the term it self refers to PEACEFULLY COEXISTING.

I hope to God you're trolling gelson and if not, i wish you the best of luck in life buddy. You're going to need it.

user this has been a very bad thread for you

i can't think of a nation/empire less multicultural than fucking rome.