Why did the German speaking world produce such superior classical music to the rest of the world?
You've got Germany and Austria with the likes of Beethoven, Wagner, Bach and Mozart. Russia is a distant world, but then Britain, France, America etc. just don't even compete.
why is this?
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Mostly their superior autism, but their hegemony only consolidated from the romantic era onwards, since they pioneered it themselves.
Even though they had very important musicians before that (even though it's a stretch to call them Germans since at that time it was a bunch of distant territories under the umbrella of the HRE), it was more equal, Italy was very relevant in medieval and Renaissance music, Spain had the best Baroque school, etc...
French music > Russian
>Leonin
>Debussy
>Faure
>Ravel
>Berlioz
>Satie
>Bizet
>Saint-Saens
>Lully
Though it's true, Germany is the best. The large number of aristocratic courts in the HRE meant lots of jobs for composers so they had more people working and more chances to excel
It's not really a stretch to call them Germans. Germany was still Germany, even if disunited. Mozart who lived in Austria referred to himself as German.
>Mozart
Daily reminder that Mozart was German and not Austrian
>inb4 butthurt Austrians who can't take the truth
Yeah, probably, but still, the fact that they lived in a highly decentralized "state" and not a modern State helped inmensely, amongst other things.
The multitude of courts was a big factor as expressed on , another big factor was the spread of Protestantism. Catholic musical traditions were highly standarized and attempting to change them was seen very badly. Protestant Christian music however created a ton of genres and started experimenting to bring religious music to the masses (by singing in German and not in Latin for example) and that meant that a ton of religious musicians, the most important of them being Bach, had a great environment for exploring and developing music.
Long after that (and after the Classic period in which the most important musicians were Mozart and Haydn, that if not German, were very "continental"), the Sturm und Drang movement came and kickstarted romanticism in which they became the undisputed masters of every genre.
Even though great musicians still came from here and there all around Europe, until nationalism and impressionism came and the Russians and the French started having more to say Germany and the surrounding countries were the place where you had to be if you were a musician.
I find most interesting the fact that Great Britain managed to mantain an impressive irrelevance throughout all its history in classical music. The only composer that can "stand" together with the continental classics is Elgar, and even then he's clearly second line to the greats.
Even the USA, despite being a very young country managed to field a highly beloved composer in the form of Gershwin before inmersing completely in modern popular music by inventing jazz and blues.
Charles Villiers Stanford > Elgar
Well, Austrians are German?
Literally all Europe produced good music in the XIX century.
That's like saying Wagner was German, not Saxon.
He was Austrian and hence, German.
they kind of invented the classic genre from baroque with haydn mozart composing single movement symphonies allowing mobility and faster spread
>French music > Russian
Heh, mda
>Russia is a distant world
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not to mention Johann Strauss and Johaness Brahms
Why is Medtner so much better than ANY other Russian composer?
Only if you are a gay
Czechia is really underrated for classical music. They have Smetana, Dvorak, Janacek, not bad for such a small country
jazz and blues are literally product of Jewish degeneracy, and glorified nigger tribal music.
>French music > Russian
Not really, plus French and Russian romantic music have pretty big ties.
Russian romantic composers blow most western Europeans out of the water. Try Tchaikovsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, Borodin, Mussorgsky, Kalinnikov, Balakirev, Glazunov, Lyapunov. And then you have the modern ones like Prokofiev, Shostakovich, Rachmaninov, Scriabin, Stravinsky.
You're putting nationalist composers together with romantics though, they're different styles.
I agree that Russian modern music is better than German though.
That's pretty sad how murricanz never understand Rachmaninoff composer, while being of very high opinion about Rachmaninoff playing List or Chopin.
Well unless I'm mistaken, Tchaikovsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, Borodin, Mussorgsky, Kalinnikov, Balakirev, Glazunov are Lyapunov are romantic composers though - which is why I separated them from the second part of the list.
>Mozart
>German
nice meme.
Jamal Quintanus Mozart was a black man.
Black is not a nationality though
Ah, its never ending Russian joke about Pushkin.
I like Satie and Ravel more than any of those
Since when do we not like Rachmaninoff