Have you ever heard of the conflict of West Sahara? >used to be a spanish colony along with Morocco >UN - mainly USA and France - pressure a weakened Spain to let go off it >USA arms the region to fight the soviet-aligned algeria, wich was armed by the URSS >When the war stops, the Moroccan king greedily claims the region. >According to the UN, there must be a referendum in West Sahara where they decide if they want to be in Morocco or independent >The referendum has been halted for decades by the Moroccan king, while hundreds of people "wait" in the refugee camps in the Sahara
Do you think Sahara should be independent, or possessed by Morocco? Or maybe it should have stayed with Spain to get better treatment and protection ?
They are all the same shit pretending to be different. Who cares?
Nathan James
>they owned it hundreds of years ago therefore it belongs to them umm, it doesnt work that way >the US was neutral sure, everyone was "neutral" in the cold war, the US never officially entered war with the URSS during it. that doesnt mean that the US didnt arm people or instigate rebellions.
William Collins
>they support the Green March because they thought that Morocco will free them >Now all that is Morocco Fuck them, who cares
Thomas Butler
Was it worth though. What's inside there anyway? Oil? Gold?
Christopher Morales
sahrawi people belong to their moroccan masters enjoy your freedom from spain
Jason Rodriguez
Can't they become a substate of Morocco or two formal kingdoms like Austro-Hungary? Would be quite ebin.
Zachary Lee
phosphates, I think that they have oil too but not sure, we want to test our nukes there in the 70s
Noah James
It belonged to them before you fuckers came in and fucked Morocco in the ass.
It's literally your fault.
And in the Sand War Kennedy actively sought out a plan of neutrality, Morocco did have US weapons, but that was from previous stuff.
Easton Lee
>It's literally your fault. Our former king sold that to the king of Morocco after the Green March. the UN doesn't recognize that deal, no refunds
Thomas Flores
Will it be the poorest country in the world once it gains independent? I cannot think of any significant export other than slaves
Andrew King
This is Morocco before colonialism, but then Sp*in and Fr*nce took over and separated the people like the barbarians they are.
Imbecile. Other people outside Europe also had imperialism like policy to expand their borders..
Sebastian Rivera
How does that give any right for barbarian *uropeans to come in and destroy it.
Jordan Clark
Nature law.
Joshua Sanchez
I know a girl from there. West Sahara should be free and independant.
Zachary White
As I said lad, US did the same with Mexico, US did that too in the 60-70 in all Hispanoamerica, you are doing that NOW in all the MENA, the fuck are you talking about? ...
Blake Smith
>>used to be a spanish colony along with Morocco no?
Morocco was French, not Spanish. Spain didn't hold more than 5% of Morocco.
Brandon Jackson
give it to Mexico you Mutt....those territories were part of New Spain therefore Mexico
Camden Cruz
I think that France had more Algeria than Morocco Muhammad, we had the Riff a couple of years too
Jacob Perez
stop having a ferry service with gibraltar and Algeria
David Johnson
is Algeciras to Tangier, and they go to your cunt by plane now, we aren't in the 70s
Caleb Reed
>Implying the entire "west saharan conflict" isn't merely a proxy-war between Morocco and Algeria Btw, how does the fusion between Islam and Marxism of the Polisario work anyway?
France consider that, Spain too, and ofc Morocco wich has the army there
Brandon Edwards
Even if we consider that western sahara as part of Morocco, it only had like 20,000 people, compared to the 4 millions that France controlled.
Controlling 5% of the population or 5% of the territory doesn't make Morocco an ex-spanish colony. It was a French protectorate, end of the storuy.
Henry Hall
>It's an empty desert. 500k people there and lots of phosphates that buy France, maybe even oil in the coast
Kevin Johnson
When Spain took it in the early 20th it had less than 50,000 nomads niggers.
Caleb Lopez
>When Spain took it the fuck is the Berlin Conference?...
Jacob Cooper
Yes, after 1884 and that conference Spain seized this empty desert with 50,000 or less nomads there. That's completly irrelevant to the 4 millions country that France seized.
Brandon Barnes
Good for them, we need that chunk to send niggas to America
Samuel Anderson
What? I don't get it, how is spanish western sahara related to sending niggers to USA?
Brody Nguyen
What exactly is Morocco's reason for claiming them? That they're sandniggers, too? Why don't they just go and claim Mauritania as well
Elijah Wright
While initial Spanish interest in the Sahara was focused on using it as a port for the slave trade, by the 1700s Spain had transitioned economic activity on the Saharan coast towards commercial fishing.[17] After an agreement among the European colonial powers at the Berlin Conference in 1884 on the division of spheres of influence in Africa, Spain seized control of Western Sahara and established it as a Spanish colony
Landon Phillips
Yeah so in the end that region was never used as a slave port.
It's a bit too far from the slave hubs of western africa anyway.
>Why don't they just go and claim Mauritania as well Well, they did in the past. Basically it was post-colonial states going after their "lost possessions stolen by whitey", Mauritania claimed parts of Western Sahara as well.
>Basically it was post-colonial states going after their "lost possessions stolen by whitey"
No.
France made Morocco 5 to 10 times biggers than before 1912 and the protectorate. Morocco never controlled any part of Mauritania expect nominally for few years in the 17th.
Jason Campbell
>No. I am only talking about their rhetoric. As if facts matter with Irrendist claims based on "historical evidences" pulled out of their asses. They saw their chance, made their claims and swept in.
Caleb King
Who in Morocco ever claimed that they "lost Mauritanai because of whitey" ? France is not involved in anyway wich Mauritania not being morocco. Lyautey made their country ten times bigger and everyone there is glad for that.
>As if facts matter with Irrendist claims based on "historical evidences" pulled out of their asses
In this case, pic related, they're quit right. After destroying the Malian and the Songhai empire, Morocco took most of western africa. Funny thing is that the ones who did that conquest were spaniards mercenairies and they mixed with the locals to create a new population:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arma_people >The Arma people are an ethnic group of the middle Niger River valley, descended from Moroccan and Andalusi invaders of the 16th century. The name, applied by other groups, derives from the word ar-rumah (Arabic: الرماة) "fusiliers".[1] >As of 1986, there were some 20,000 self-identified Arma in Mali, mostly around Timbuktu, the middle Niger bend and the Inner Niger Delta.
I can't say im familiar with the history of thata area, but weren't some of the leaders of the Istiqlal party and in fact the Moroccan king Hassan II doing that tho? historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistoriesResponsive.asp?historyid=ad05 >At first the Moroccan king refuses to acknowledge the existence of Mauritania, claiming that it is historically linked to Morocco (it is the region from which the Almoravids moved north in the 11th century to establish themselves at Marrakech).
I apologize if I am wrong though, if you can correct me I would appreciate it.
Jason Thompson
What I'm saying is that they don't blame France for mauritania, but they do claim it as an historical clay and they had some bad relations with Mauritania. None of this is related to France tho.
The almoravid claim is quit ridiculous btw. That would be like Germany claiming all of Europe because Germanic dynasties since the collapse of the roman empire ruled most of europe: wizigoth, frankish, ostrogoth kingdoms etc.
Nathan Parker
Okay, I see. >That would be like Germany claiming all of Europe because Germanic dynasties since the collapse of the roman empire ruled most of europe: wizigoth, frankish, ostrogoth kingdoms etc. Hmmm...