Does your country have an equivalent of Detroit?

Would be Heerlen or Eindhoven, industry left leaving behind a bunch of jobless losers.

kys Rotterdam is thriving

Give it another few years of EU Refugee Bonanza and we'll see

Stop destabilizing MENA for Israel, you fuckers.

Kek. Nope
We fuck up the Middle East and you Europe deals with the Muslims. It's like pottery

Shut the fuck up mutt
Go sell your family for 3 dollars

You mad? Fuck off whiner

In fact, yes. I AM mad. This is because your country has a loan of over a trillion dollars, most of your people either live in poverty or part of the 1%, and force your opinion on everyone like it matters
You're almost worse than the brits
Speaking of whiners, you were the ones who had a fucking riot because a talking orange won some useless position in the government

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Łódź

It used to have big textile industry but collapsed after 1990 and now it's really bad, even though they try to revive the centre of the city and renovate some neighborhoods but the city like that needs 10x more

That's what an average street looks there:

google.pl/maps/@51.7742716,19.4499756,3a,75y,83.19h,93.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVnmWWvXEa420WHxMdw00FQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

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The street seems fine to me

Rosario I guess.

Elias Piña.

It can't be fixed. The only way is a) nuking Haití or b) making a wall

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Looks comfy

Rosengård

Only thing that would fix it is a nuke

Guess it's Naples, we already have a solution

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>most of your people live in poverty

Holy shit. Has anyone ever been so wrong before? This is laughable, you have no i deal what you're saying.

>How would you fix Detroit?

Have you ever been there?

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>Jordan

well...we're in Europe, standards are slightly different

but Łódź has way worse places, just that one is average

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>the downtown portion where all the rich white people work is equivalent to the rest of the city
You could do the same with literally any picture of a city's business and financial district

Detroit is alright except for a few ghettos. Stop memeing, faggot.

Looks a hell of a lot better than where I grew up.

Laughably wrong. There is urban decay almost everywhere

btw Łódź from some angles looks 100% like Detroit

i really doubt

also, what about this:

google.pl/maps/@51.7744698,19.4524491,3a,75y,96.51h,91.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sg0rTxWumpXK0da0oxdqR8w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

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Alright I have to admit that looks bad. Do you people have any plans to fix that?

Black neighborhood here

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But all of you country looks like a slav tier shithole

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>What happened to Rotterdam?
German bombs.

High-speed rail from Detroit to Chicago and Ohio. That’s the best you can do.

Maybe Ford/GM/Chrysler can start prototyping trains.

Dude those streets look fine, wasn't aware Łotz was hitting some tough times though. Yeah there's some graffiti but I'm not seeing any worn down houses with a bunch of overgrowth or boarded up windows.

no
because they are all much worse than even Detroit

another Detroit city neighborhood

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Detroit isn't that bad. There is a rough history and a lot of urban blight but its hardly the only city that has faced shrinkage or blight or corrupt local govt. Hell right now Detroit's economy is growing and real estate is cheap. Rather live in Detroit than in an overpriced hellscape like San Francisco etc.

>Do you people have any plans to fix that?

As I said here: There is quite a big project of city revival in the centre of Łódź, you can see some projects here:

skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=2043616

+ they're building the underground rail system there

but still, it's not enough for such a bit city, it will takes decades to improve it

>. Yeah there's some graffiti but I'm not seeing any worn down houses with a bunch of overgrowth or boarded up windows.

well..maybe because in Detroit no one lives in run-down buildings, while in Łódź people live there?

>even shitty cities have some nicer neighborhoods
What point are you trying to make, nigger? Do you work for the city's tourism board or something?

Here is that house that was abandoned and we all saw the pic of hundreds of times, now fixed up

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rotterdam is way nicer than Detroit.

90% of russia is worse than Detroit. I truly feel for Russia. It is like if Detroit was a country ruled by a mafia.

this, it isnt that bad. Kinda boring but modern. nothing like detroit.

downtown is ok, but go a mile from there and you will see areas that look like they were bombed.

opposite. It is mostly falling apart with a few good areas.

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Homeless people definitely squat in condemned buildings in Detroit. Anyway I believe what you say, even a "crappy" American city* is probably a better place to live than a 2nd or 3rd world.

Showing pics that are not the same 5 or 6 pics of abandoned building that we have all seen here over and over.

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>even a "crappy" American city* is probably a better place to live than a 2nd or 3rd world.

of course, wages in Detroit are still higher not only than some 2nd country but even many 1st world countries

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The downtown is better than a lot of cities, but yeah you don't have to go far to get into a really shitty area

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I'm not going to deny urban blight but thats more a product of a shrinking population with a shitty, corrupt local government. When a city shrinks, large amounts of land fall into disuse. Its not a bad thing necessarily, and Detroit will grow in the future, as people get sick of living in overrated bloated coastal hellholes.

Michigan in general is one of the most cozy and homey states. You can't beat it.

what is falling apart? abandoned plants?
what is falling apart in this picture?

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its ok. Kinda quiet but id live there. Sometimes I consider moving to detroit so I can work less and live an urban life.

people move into cities to have density. Detroit isnt bad in the right area, and has potential because it is cheap. Fucking cold though.

detroit is way bigger than that. The area around downtown isnt bad, and is revitalized. You zoom out a little more and you will start to see the problematic areas of detroit.

The taxpayers of Detroit should ask for a refund from the city, you're awful at your job.

All sorts of houses are falling or already fell apart, and yes, you can even see giant lots in that picture. Detroit does have a ton of blight. Doesn't make it a super bad unfixable city, but you are delusional or you've never lived/worked in Detroit if you deny it altogether.

Also add to that the fact that just a few miles from Detroit looks like your typical cozy polished suburban America. And all the memes are about a relatively small depressed area literally within a 5 mile radius.

>you're awful at your job.
You must have thought he was me, nobody works for the city here, just multiple posters sharing reality instead of cherrypicked pics and uninformed opinions on a city most people have never been to

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detroit suburbs suck. So boring, Detroit or bust.

>people move into cities to have density
Nah, otherwise you wouldn't see people in hellscapes like San Francisco voting down measures which increase density. People move into cities for the same reason they move anywhere--place to live, closeby to where they can make a living. Very few people want density for the sake of density.

Most people I know who live in Detroit were just born there or in the suburbs, people who moved out moved out because they want better jobs. Detroit in particular has pretty bad schools (keeps wasting money on administrators whose job it is to "stop the waste of money", cut vital staff and get paid 6 figures to do it), and has bad services (shit snow removal and garbage pickup and police etc etc) while also having high taxes somehow.

people want more density it is the older boomer landowners who votes these down to increase the value of their homes because so many people want to live in dense areas.

do people really think detroit is gonna be great again?

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Lots of job there but bad reputation keeps people away

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In cities like San Francisco, people only want more density to help to alleviate the housing crisis; not density for the sake of density. Most people prefer not to live in dense and crowded areas if it's tenable.

not true or there wouldnt be dense areas to begin with. People like living in urban settings, and always have. That is why everyone is fleeing the suburbs

Dense areas started because that's where all the work was you brainlet.

Hey, since your here; is it still tenable to find a house for $150K-$200K in a decent neighborhood in the Detroit area? What areas of the city should I be looking at?

Inside Detroit there are cozy detached houses too, some dork has been posting them in the thread. There's a big difference between Grosse Pointe and Highland Park though, the best suburbs are somewhere in the lower-middle-class range . Where the roads are garbage and the houses are tiny but everyone's friendly and there's a discount grocery and a dive bar down the road.

Detroit in general is kind of "boring" if you don't fetishize economic depression. Art museum is okay maybe once a year and its a good central location for shows and sports (if you are into that kind of thing).

Crime in the US was high from the late sixties to the early nineties, so everyone left the cities.

Now crime is lower, so people are coming back.

detroit isnt terrible, just empty
it was way worse ten years ago anyways
stop meme'ing

and there are plenty of american cities in worse shape than detroit (like st louis, or flint, or baltimore)

t. lifelong detroit resident

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Maybe around Wayne State or Elmwood park, I only go there a few times a year

because that is where people want to live faglet.

Reality proves your argument wrong.

>>people dont want to live in dense areas that is why there is so many people in them

I play music, im sure its good for music. Cheap real estate

So you are saying crime is the only reason people don't want to live in the cities? Why would I want to live in a tiny overpriced apartment if I could live in my own house with a garage and a garden and tons of space.

Oh yeah I forgot that Boomers are not people but are in fact some other species. Boomers (and all other homeowners) cut down density because they want to keep others away. California is worst at this.

Density is shit, LA is unlivable, people are forced to live in dense areas due to economic pressure. Go to Detroit and enjoy a museum or a park the way its meant to be enjoyed--just a handful of people and nature, just a handful of people and the art. One thing I realized going into Manhattan was that nothing is enjoyable when there's clods and clods and clods of human beings swarming over everything they see. Can't go to a museum because there's tons of people crowding everything. Go to a park and there's tons of people crowding everything. Maybe if you are a hyperextrovert you can find some kind of perverse pleasure in seeing nothing but people everywhere, but for most normies, dense living has literally been found to be bad for your psychological health.

Its already good. I think it will get better yes. I know its already getting better. Main issues are local government and (to an extent) its reputation.

I always thought people lived in dense areas because they had no other choice, or were super rich and could afford a penthouse

>some dork has been posting them in the thread.
haha fuck off

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Eindhoven is currently facing a massive housing shortage because of their booming economy.

You are a dork, sorry. Like I understand the point you are trying to make (that Detroit has really cozy low-density but affordable housing that Shitlifornians everywhere would kill for). But you do so in a turbo autistic and dorky way, much like if a Californian kept posting pictures of vegan eateries in San Francisco. He'd be a dork.

boomers bought the homes when they are cheap and are now preventing the younger generations from getting the same thing. it is fucked up.

And LA is awesome, id live in LA over detroit any day and so would most people, That is literally why LA has millions of more people than Detroit. And while you dont like cities others do, that is why so many people live in Manhatten. They arent paying a lot of money to live somewhere they hate. And how dare other people ruin your museum experience by being their doing what you are doing.

Also you have it backward. Dense living is good for your mental health. Being isolated and not around people is bad. That is only if you mentally healthy though and have social skills to thrive in cities. If you end up in a city and cant make connections it is worse.

citylab.com/transportation/2015/12/study-transit-density-mental-health-depression-turin/417969/

nope, dense areas are literally way more expensive than non dense areas. Not everyone in a city is a millionaire.

I already said, dummy, just showing pics people haven't seen before.
How many times have you seen the same pics of Detroit over and over here?

trulia.com/p/mi/warren/32427-desmond-dr-warren-mi-48093--2049980910#lil-mediaTab

Looks comfy af, this could easily go for $600K in my city.

I just don't like dense areas, I'm in the UP, I can buy land for next to nothing.

yes, very few people wants to live in non-dense areas so the land is cheap.

Yes, Acapulco it used to be great but now it is a hellhole and one of the most dangerous cities in the world, the popularity and the narcos ruined it

>boomers bought the homes when they are cheap and are now preventing the younger generations from getting the same thing. it is fucked up.
Over here they don't even sell. They just own appartments they once bought for their kid to go to college in and watched it quadrupple in price while renting out rooms for €400 each.

that is cheap. Where I live a room can be $2000

Are you black? Just curious

Well we don't make $100k a year for writing some code, or designing vacuum pumps

>some dork
>posting images on an imageboard
are you fucking stupid?

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Yeah and I haven't seen endless pics of vegan eateries in California either. Doesn't mean the person posting endless pics of California eateries isn't a dork.

Also I hate to say it but if you see one cozy pic of detached houses on a worn down but otherwise clean street, you seen em all. Once you posted pic #2, we had seen that pic before.

Then don't come to IMAGE boards, idiot

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Yes, all of it but the capital.

New generations can have the same thing, just not in California. There are all kinds of cities with affordable housing and economic growth that aren't constantly on fire or have the sky high poverty rates that California does.

curbed.com/2018/1/26/16937946/millennial-move-cities-real-estate

Considering its huge size, California doesn't make a single one of the top 10 for millennial growth, and neither LA nor San Francisco made the top 10 for gross numbers of millennials (San Diego and Bakersfield did though).

>That is literally why LA has millions of more people than Detroit.
No its because LA has more jobs than Detroit does. People are forced to live in LA as a nightmarish last resort. People pay money to live in places they hate all the time.

>And how dare other people ruin your museum experience by being their doing what you are doing.
Its not about "how dare they". Its about "wow this city is seriously overcrowded and ruins the entire experience of life for everyone"

>Also you have it backward. Dense living is good for your mental health. Being isolated and not around people is bad.
Your article is irrelevant and only discussed being close to transit. City dwellers are notoriously worse off mentally than those in more sparse areas.

theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/mar/16/cities-depression-stress-mental-health-high-rises-urban-design-london-toronto
washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/05/17/people-who-live-in-small-towns-and-rural-areas-are-happier-than-everyone-else-researchers-say/
academic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article/44/2/348/3814212
journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0013916517738312?journalCode=eaba

Of course cities have their benefits too--the ideal compromise is a smaller city. Somewhere like Detroit, A2 or Pittsburgh. Over shitstain hellscapes like LA. Let the boomers keep it.

esbjerg. there's nothing dangerous or shitty about the city, it's just boring and far away from everything despite being the 5th largest in the country.

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It's your choice to allow them in.

Detroit wouldn't be so bad if the natives didn't turn it into a literal warzone.
youtu.be/m3LVIfHcogY

I'll come to IMAGE boards and I'll call you a DORK. Don't like being called a DORK then dont post boring and repetitive bullshit images.

But yes, Detroit is beautiful. Note that this is the Old Wayne County Building (currently vacant though not abandoned). Even though its not too far from downtown, you got nice big streets without a shit ton of traffic, parking structures galore. Just a hit of that hellish michigan construction. Choice.