Original Russians or Rus'/Rhos were Vikings from Sweden. They've conquered and enslaved a bunch of Slavic and Finnic tribes, established the state known in modern historiography as "Kievan Rus'" and became its ruling elite.
What do you make out of this???
Original Russians or Rus'/Rhos were Vikings from Sweden...
Parker Perez
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Joshua Murphy
Well it got rekt by Mongols
Grayson Cooper
We wuz kangz obviously
Gabriel Garcia
modern Swedes can't control even their own territory lmao
Thomas James
>They've conquered and enslaved a bunch of Slavic and Finnic tribes, established the state known in modern historiography as "Kievan Rus'" and became its ruling elite.
No.
Carter Williams
Yes, you are in denial.
Easton Fisher
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Andrew Brown
Not enslaved, just helped to keep trade routes free from invading Turkic Nomadic tribes roaming the area
Oliver Ramirez
No.
Fake news.
>inb4
>Donald Trump believed to be direct descendant of Rurik the Viking who established Russian state
> President-elect Donald Trump believed to have some Viking descendants
> Genealogist claims he has links to Rurik who established the Russian state
> And maybe Mr Trump's closer to Barack Obama than first thought with link
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Angel Richardson
>modern Swedes can't control even their own territory lmao
Explain
Lincoln Wright
Yes. This. Yes.
Oh dude.
I never thought there is a one person at /int who knows scientific historicians truth.
Adam Moore
Nestor was not honest in his chronicle with the whole "they invited Varangians" story. For obvious reasons - he was writing it for Rurikids.
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>Apart from Ibn Fadlan's account, Normanist theory draws heavily on the evidence of the Persian traveler Ibn Rustah who, it is postulated, visited Novgorod (or Tmutarakan, according to George Vernadsky) and described how the Rus' exploited the Slavs.
>As for the Rus, they live on an island ... that takes three days to walk round and is covered with thick undergrowth and forests; it is most unhealthy. ... They harry the Slavs, using ships to reach them; they carry them off as slaves and…sell them. They have no fields but simply live on what they get from the Slav's lands. ... When a son is born, the father will go up to the newborn baby, sword in hand; throwing it down, he says, "I shall not leave you with any property: You have only what you can provide with this weapon."
Jayden Anderson
they started speaking slav dialect too soon for that to be true
no ruling elite swede would name his son Igor or Alaksei
Slav tribes were known to not care about invaders and fought and bickered among each other
Swedes united certain tribes probably
Slav barbarians on the other hand were known to capture or steal Viking longboats and raid Vikings themselves
Then sold the boats or trash them because they had enough forests and timber
When the river transit to Constantinople opened, Slavs were among the Vikings in the longboats sailing south for trade, mercenary jobs and slave trades. Slavs got along with Vikings too good. Then Mongols came and changed what war Russia at the time. Then something happened and Russia got rid of the mongols, kept some and expanded east too far for their own good.
Leo Evans
>no ruling elite swede would name his son Igor or Alaksei
The first line on Wiki is litterally this
>Igor (Ingvar)
Ing-war -> Ig-war -> Ig-ar -> Ig-or
It's not a far leap linguistically. Neither is Ivan from Ívarr and Eivind, etc.
Christian Bailey
igor is just a slavified norse name tho, same with oleg
Sebastian Barnes
> Igor' [ˈiɡərʲ]; Ukrainian: Iгop, translit. Ihor [ˈiɦɔr]; Belarusian: Iгap, translit. Ihar [ˈiɣar]; Serbian Cyrillic: Игop, pronounced [îɡor]) is a common given Slavic name derived from the Norse name Ingvar, that was brought to ancient Rus' by the Norse Varangians, in the form Ingvar or Yngvar.
The Rus came from Roslagen btw
Gavin Stewart
And neither can you, now shut the fuck up if you have nothing to say aobut Kievan Rus.
Jackson Sullivan
Daily reminder that Rurik was Finnish
Anthony Baker
>What do you make out of this???
That not only all Slavic/Finnic lands our rightful clay, but also all Nordic.
Jose Thomas
Whoohoo! When would we go to invade them back?
Ian Baker
>they started speaking slav dialect too soon for that to be true
You realize that they've operated in these lands almost for a century before the founding of Rus'? And all initial Rus' rulers had Scandinavian names. They've assimilated gradually.
>no ruling elite swede would name his son Igor
Igor is a Scandinavian name - Ingvar...
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Robert Cook
There's a lot more people involved than Rurik