Germans unironically believe that Charlemagne was German

he was of middle francia, therefore not french nor german

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Karl Velikiy was actually russian, ignore those post above mine

he was germanic

Chálǐ màn was Chinese

He was French, sweetie
And Vercingetorix was Celtic yet he was still French, sweetie

He is Dutch.

kinda

>tfw middle francia was the only true heir of charlemagne, Lothar was crowned emperor, g+rmans and fre*nch are just larpers

He was a stateless Gemanoid oppressing my celtic brothers

Listen here you brainlet,the Franks were a germanic tribe that adopted a vulgar latin language that evolved jnto the modern french language.
He wasn't born in france but his parents did.

In any case,saying Charlemagne was german is the same the same thing as saying a random visigoth king in spain was german and not spanish(or a suebi king german instead of portuguese).

how can you be such a retarded brainlet? Burgers should be banned from discussing any history that doesnt involve America

Charlemagne was French

Charlemagne was French

If anything, he oppressed germanics more than anything else, BTFOing Saxons and their german friends

Also, Charlemagne was a Carolingian and therefore French

Charlemagne was argentinian

Charlemagne was Portuguese

If Charlemagne wasn't French, why did the Nazis blame France for Charlemagne's massacring of the Saxons and burning down Irminsul?
Checkmate German subhumans

Charlemagne was American. His real name was Charlie Maggio, son of Italian immigrants

Charlemagne was Frank, a member of a Germanic tribe.

Charlemagne was NORDIC

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Franks stopped being Germanic at some point m8.

Saying Clovis was germanic makes sense but not Big Charlie

You guys realise there's a word for someone who's half French and half Germanic? It's called 'Canadian'.

why is everyone here claiming Charlemagne was theirs? I mean, he pulled out a pretty cool sword from a rock, but what's so great about him?

That was King Arthur. Charlemagne resurrected the Roman Empire. When he died, they said the time the country was in its last days, he'd come back to life and vanquish the enemies of the Franks.

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Franks were Germans.

no they didn't lol
their administration as well as their subjugates in the west spoke Romance languages or used Latin as administrative language, that doesn't mean Charlemagne wasn't Germanic.
Only over the centuries they intermixed with the local populations both in modern France and Germany
this is misleading because in English you can use both the term "German" and "Germanic" for the ancient group of peoples. Yet ancient Germans aren't equatable with the modern German nation

Charlemagne was attila rapebabie

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The real fact is that Charlemagne's kingdom and headstate was in western Francia when he was Prince which is current France. He went to the East when he started conquest

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Franks were descendants of Danish settlers.
Store Kalle was Danish.

>charlemagne was german
>napoleon was italian
At least you still have Macron

The Frankish aristocracy were Latinized by that point. The Germanic Frankish language was old Dutch which remained the language of Batavia and eventually the Netherlands through assimilation of the frisians.

>Char Le Magne
>not french

Karel de Grote was Dutch.
Dutch scientists have determined he was born in a suburb of Amsterdam to a Moroccan mother and Surinamese father

yeah and the Franks were still Germanic nonetheless. Am I an Anglo because I'm speaking English rn?

> his Father is buried in France

Need to add something ?

How can he be French is he is burried in Aken?

Macron his last name is of Dutch origin ‘Maekelaar’ and means broker.
So is De Gaul or ‘De Gallier’ and of course Hollande.

He went to the East when he started conquests but originally he was in western Francia

>he went to the East
He went home

he wasn't French, he wasn't German, he wasn't Dutch, he was Frankish. What's so hard to accept about that?

No but if English was your first language you would be you dingus

Can I be of Dutch ancestry too ? It sounds easy

Charlemagne was born in modern day Germany and spoke old German

let's all come to an agreement and accept that based Carlemany was, and will always be, the first catalan, the father of the catalan people, and therefore shall be considered catalan himself.

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Not even racially Germanic. Most of the brides of Frankish kings were daughters of Latin nobles

based

no I wouldn't be Anglo, I'd be culturally Anglo at best, and according to this source he spoke Old High German: reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1emh7q/what_language_did_charlemagne_speak/

Kaarle Suuri is Finnish.

Language =/= ethnicity

I know, that's why I didn't call him German. He wasn't French though either. He was Germanic, a notion that makes many people throw a spastic fit apparently