Is that, since colonial times, the different States that have ruled us have IMPOSE their laws, and people have OBEY those laws, making us dependent from the State.
And we don't have a wealth-making mentality either, so we focus in redistribution, that, with some shitty coups has made us pretty the shithole we're today.
So you're saying...
Yes, but not so radical
convert to protestanism
Oh so you are one of those anarchists who want laws that are not inforced
Bullshit.
The states in Latin America always served the mining and agricultural elite.
Besides, the spaniards and portuguese people forced the countries to be mere exporters of raw materials.
The southern United States has always been the same, only enriched after losing the civil war.
Latin America and Southern USA were COLONIES that actually had things that interested the metropolises unlike the Northern USA, that was left alone to develop.
I would say its because all the contrary our states have relied on loans and private bribes if you wish to fund themselves
Never had large armies, wars between our sates were not on the same level as the European wars, therefore the state never cared enough to ensure proper tax collection, and institutions that made the region stable.
Military dictatorships, coups, communist regimes
All signs of weak state institutions
The US constitution was oriented to make people rich, the patent laws, encourage of private investment and overall a democratic and liberal state made them rich, while we were raising cows and praying some god
No.
I guess you look at any good nation, anglos, America, Western Europe, people are willing participants in the nation/state. So ideologically its more than a protection racket that is the bases of a state at first.
I mean you look at shitholes and because people don't care they just litter and dob't have nay problem with stealing if they aren't caught.
Lying is bad Uruguay.... the actual problem in latin america is brown people.
there is no sense of personal freedom in latam.
for example we don't have 'right to defend oneself' and a lot of countries have issues with freedom of press as well.
we also have little social mobility
>I hate myself
I heard today a jornalist say that the State shoyld rehabilitate AND assure a job for that person AND their family, why the fuck should the State fix your life?
As Adam Smith said in the Wealth of the Nations there are conditions for free-market capitalism to thrive in and enrich a country. The first condition is that society needs to have a sense of fellowship, to the point that all citizens need to be selfish enough to be able to be put themselves on the place of others, even if it is by their own selfish view, because quoting Smith, it is impossible for one person to put in the place of another one accurately, exactly because people are different in their own nature, therefore it is needed that people should have a stereotypical or mediocre societal view of others to be able to understand and comprehend them and live in society. Realizing that this judgement can both lead to disruption and cohesion of a society, Adam Smith said that there is a need for some sort of control over morality to ensure that these conditions are necessary.
Therefore you get Latin America, most spanish colonies, were formed by oligarchies that disregarded common morality and wished above everything their own wealth to the point of monopolizing and regulating their market for their own good. And since the Republics existed only to serve them, it became impossible for the enrichment of the common man, therefore leading to poverty and crime. Literally all governments in LatAm to this day still follow this big state oligarchy pattern, and now most First World countries are following the same pattern we followed for centuries.
it's always funny how the people from shithole countries fail to recognize that all the things they present as the cause of their problems are not the actual causes, but symptoms of a deeper issue. and this underlying issue is the simple fact that the average citizen there is borderline mentally impaired.
cringe
>the constitution
>patents
Chico, creo que no tengas idea de lo que estás hablando
>MUH BIG STATE
Are you retarded? Universal healthcare is not the thing keeping you from being first world, Joao.
Not really my friend, it is better to acknowlodge the problem, complain even if you aren't able to do shit, than being arrogant without knowing why you are on top in the first place. It is by making people believe their are superior that you can easily cheat them. It is literally the case of Europe nowadays, believing you are smart just because you are richer doesn't make you civilized. If anything forgetting why Europe became the center of the world and simply clinging confortably to propaganda and smugness is literally the reason of the decadence of the West. Whereas these shithole countries with borderline retarded people question where people get robbed everyday and risk death, literally question themselves day and night what is wrong with the system, and that gives us a chance for a breakthrough.
Funny thing, because most South American countries already got universal healthcare for almost a century
He is not talking about healthcare tho.
The elites of our countries are still the same as the colony.
>american comprehension
Yes, I agree with that, but he's phrasing it like social welfare programs are somehow the root cause of Latin America's problems by mentioning "big government" and then tying it to the West.
>Literally all governments in LatAm to this day still follow this big state oligarchy pattern, and now most First World countries are following the same pattern we followed for centuries.
i'm actually belgian and if i was i probably wouldn't be talking like that because i'd have no experience about it
i'm from serbia and i honestly believe that we have a fundamental problem of having a very poor quality population and culture. we have low IQ, inherent predisposition for being alcoholic and a culture that emphasizes collectivism, which makes people feel like they're powerless as individuals and that the state/system should be their nanny. it is true that, since we never had a democracy, the people feel like they have no control over things, and by extension, no responsibility (i kind of feel that we like it this way) and that this could change, but some things are in the DNA i believe.
> but he's phrasing it like social welfare programs are somehow the root cause of Latin America's problems by mentioning "big government" and then tying it to the West.
That is some pretty big rationalization my friend, I have never said that, I am saying that Europe/USA have thrived because they adopted Adam Smith philosophy, which means that up till 1929 the governments would basically let the people do whatever they want economically and only regulate morality, and it worked fine, to the point that you guys dominated the world, until it crashed due to the moral corruption of its system. Despite not quoting it directly, this "selfish morality" that smith quoted is a direct derivative of the christian morality, and he was so faithful about it to the point of not even considering this morality as a condition but simply "human nature" lol.
You would be surprised how much a state can control people my friend, especially post fascist/communist states.
taxation is theft desu based uruguay
>i'm actually belgian
not belgian
>inherent predisposition for being alcoholic
i meant cultural more than physical, but there's a bit of both. and i'm not talking just about alcohol, it's more of a symbol of all the vices people in a wannabe macho culture take up
it seems the word "big" stuck in your mind, while the word "oligarchy" stuck in mine.
I agree with you tho.
Brazil and latin America is basically a oligarchy
Fernando Henrique Cardoso (one of the Brazilian president) grandfathers brother was one of the military officer that made a coup against Dom Pedro II