POLAND STRONK

Nordic subhumans

Based, when can SUECIA join this union? We can give you swedishs qts

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>Destroys Am*rica in a single day
youtube.com/watch?v=OuC1eSaJ0oY

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I think we have advisers in Sweden

>one of the only countries where people still like us
>let's build a permanent installation in their country and send thousands of our bydlo retards to play GI Joe there
this is a diplomatic nightmare in the making

Poland pay money for occupant base? WTF?

The WEAKNESS of N*TO was summarized in the Aurora 17 exercise. US marines, Swedes and Norwegians were brutally slaughtered by the Finnish conscripts acting as OPFOR. NATO is so weak that their rifles fire a low energy 5.56 bb cartridge that was shown to be too weak to even penetrate Taleban wearing nothing but leather jackets, and American rifles are even restricted from firing full-auto. Meanwhile the FINNS fired their high T 7.62 full auto and crushed the enemy positions with endless barrages of heavy 155mm artillery and GRAD fire.
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new levels of butthurt

top kek

stay mad, we're rolling like we want to while you live in fear that if you'll want a fucking us base russians won't allow you to have one and your army that's rated 4X in the world won't do shit about ivan threatening you, fucking looosers kek

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f u c k i n g l o l

isn't EU building an army? isn't poland in the EU? seems like a simple solution to rely on ally neighbors for support than a cunt an ocean away

poland doesn't want to be russian again

Italy is Russias ally, France is far away, UK is out soon.

Guess who's left in the "EU army".

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b-but you'll just kick us out and spit on our flag once poland is wealthy and secure, like germany's doing now

How is shitaly rated above the UK?

>THIS BULGARIAN BLONDHAIRED AND BLUEYED CHICK

XAXAXAXA

It seems someone has not been in Bulgaria for a long time.

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high doubt, we're an ally

one way or another we're paying for it, it's a deal unlike some of your bases

Even though I hate America I am continuously impressed with their ability to siphon money from the EU and the rest of the world.

POO IN THE LOO

This was made by a bulgarian, so sorry i had no idea

Fucking Larpers.

now im a self hating american who will shit talk the US at any turn

but how the fuck does any country score close to the US in aircraft carriers? we have like 15 and second place has like 3

>Italy is Russias ally
Why so autism? Italy is NATO

italian parliament members run around in pro-russian tshirts and they were the ones lobbying the most to lift sanctions off russia

You need to understand that NATO is just a facade for American actions, most European NATO members don't belive in it don't plan to uphold any of it's founding rules.

desu what even is putin's strategy in eastern europe? Strongmen like Orban don't want a new USSR they want their own personal fiefdom meanwhile the Ukrainian civil war more or less forces Poland to suck our cock at every turn due to fear of imminent invasion.

I highly doubt it's sucking, it's more of a paid protection. We buy your guns and pay for your base, you die as well if russia starts shit.

>the fact that they need protection means they're strong
lol retard

Compared to Russian nuclear arsenal no country in Europe is "strong" so if that's your scale than only US and China are contenders.

Based

We're basically turks tbqh.

my dad said that hungary is a part of germany

t. dad was born in liepzig

Do you know that a new Russian nuclear missile is called

Capмaт = Sarmatian = Poland

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If it's really Sarmatian than if fired from russia it would behave like a bumerang.

>b-but you'll just kick us out and spit on our flag once poland is wealthy and secure, like germany's doing now
?

You are Slavs in denial. Please use the northern Russian or Siberian whores to bleached yourself.

That'd be nice, thanks for the offer.

By the good old traditions.

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realistic version

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If its real Sarmatian it will go to UK

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>betraying their EU masters
good job poland

Poland knows they need it, they're stuck between a rock and a hard place (Germany and Russia), and doing so means their policy makers are smart.

Meanwhile western Europe is destroying the EU, Germany is planning accordingly by outling a defence policy paper that looks suspiciously like the very same rigorous logistics planning Germany undertook before invading France all 3 times.

Is Poland strong by thinking they can alone take on Russia and Germany again?
Or are they strong by seeking protection from the largest and most combat effective force in the world?

You tell me kraut.

not him but
>Germany is planning accordingly by outling a defence policy paper that looks suspiciously like the very same rigorous logistics planning Germany undertook before invading France all 3 times.
[citation desperately needed]

>theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/06/the-germans-are-making-contingency-plans-for-the-collapse-of-europe-lets-hope-we-are-too

Not comparable at all to 1871, 1914 or 1939.

>Not comparable at all to 1871, 1914 or 1939.
Well it depends. Its supposed to explore multiple options, some of them are where the EU remains intact, others include an "East vs West" scenario reminiscent of pre-German reunification. The absolute worst case scenario is if the EU as a whole collapses, if that happens, Germany will be exposed on their western flank just like they were before WW2. Just the paranoia of having a strong neighbors like France and Russia who are more than capable enough for a two-front war against Germany is more enough for Germany to undertake radical changes in their military, such as mass recruitment and logistical planning in order to protect the heartland against threats.

In fact, the need to protect the vulnerable heartland of Germany against both Russia and France is exactly what led to Germanys rearmament and eventually to invade France first and start both world wars. German policy makers knew the only way to survive a war against both France and/or Russia was to strike France first and gain the upper hand.

Something like this is pretty much how a post-EU world will go down. The "worst case scenario" thing may seem far fetched, but the German Federal Armed Forces Planning Office consider it "plausible".

From what I understand this paper is simply a worst-case outlook on German defense in case of a loss of allies, I don't see how this is comparable to 1870, 1914 or 1939 as there were concrete offensive plans for taking out our neighbors.
>In fact, the need to protect the vulnerable heartland of Germany against both Russia and France is exactly what led to Germanys rearmament and eventually to invade France first and start both world wars.
It led to the rearmament, not to the world wars

We don't trust Germany.

Are there Japanese military bases in South Korea? Or do Koreans really believe Japanese would help them if China invaded Korea? Ofc not. Why would we believe Germans will?

Trust me. We are Slavs.

2 billion can buy enugh chemical weapons to make europe uninhabitable for dacedes and end civilization as we know it. We and Poland need Samson option, not some bases.

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wew my bait actually worked

Finnic and Suedic MAN is superior to the submissive ameriphile POLE

>From what I understand this paper is simply a worst-case outlook on German defense in case of a loss of allies, I don't see how this is comparable to 1870, 1914 or 1939 as there were concrete offensive plans for taking out our neighbors.

The EU was designed for Germany to have a trade dependency with at first France, then the rest of Europe for security for Germany, should the EU fall, there will be nothing to tie you to France and nothing to stop Germany being vulnerable to military action. In short, you will have no allies, NATO doesnt cover NATO vs NATO nations, the US may intervene, but NATO is to protect Germanys eastern flank from the Russians, not as a cure-all for Germanys neighbors. Should you have no allies, the geopolitics of Europe which revolve around Germany, will fall right back to pre-WW2, you will at some point develop concrete plans to take out your neighbors, or risk perishing.

>It led to the rearmament, not to the world wars
The rearmament had concrete plans to invade Germanys neighbors in mind. You dont raise an army if you dont plan to use them.

>you will at some point develop concrete plans to take out your neighbors, or risk perishing.
possible, but this plan you linked and implied to be a resemblance of former German attack plans isn't that yet. We have nothing to gain from attacking our neighbors, and we couldn't win anyway.
>The rearmament had concrete plans to invade Germanys neighbors in mind.
German post-WW1 rearmament started in Weimar years, long before the rise of the Nazis. Do you have proofs that show Germany already planned for offensive wars at that point?
>You dont raise an army if you dont plan to use them.
>what is defense?

>Germany less than Thailand
HOLY FUCK
LOL

Because of you.

that's not a proper indicator of strength. Poland's army for example isn't stronger than ours.

by choice. they could easily be world-class if they wanted. same with japan

>possible
It will happen. Without an overwhelming power or a union to grantee security, Germany will always have the question to either invade your neighbors, or risk perishing. The fear of perishing drove Germany to invade France 3 times in 70 years. Dont rule out that the German question may return.

>plan you linked and implied to be a resemblance of former German attack plans isn't that yet.
True. But policy makers in Berlin know that if the EU collapses, attack plans are their best chance, it may barely resemble an attack plan now, but as the EU shakes up and member states fragment away, it'll start looking less like a contingency plan, and more like an inevitability

>We have nothing to gain from attacking our neighbors, and we couldn't win anyway.
Not right now. But you definitely could win, against France and Poland at least. Bismarck used iron and blood to nationalize the German states, another conflict might be all you need to have another surge of nationalism and swiftly raise an effective armed forces, like Germany has done in the past.

>German post-WW1 rearmament started in Weimar years, long before the rise of the Nazis. Do you have proofs that show Germany already planned for offensive wars at that point?
Policy makers in Berlin were already planning offensive wars long before WW1. The doctrine that Germany must attack France first in order to gain the upper hand in war, was created by Willhelm I's cabinet shortly after he was declared emperor of the Second German Empire. Basically, it doesnt matter who does it, rearmament is in the national interest of the German state, its simply what happens when you're surrounded on either side by regional powers.

God bless America

>Ask for credibility
>Cite a British newspaper

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>seems like a simple solution to rely on ally neighbors
Ever heard of WW2?

Reasons for the three recent wars with France are more complex than you portrayed it.
I don't see why you seem to think a collapse of the European Union would necessitate attack plans. You don't see most other states in the world attack each other despite not having something like the EU either. Also we couldn't defeat France and Poland at once, and even if we magically did other countries would defeat us anyway
also this lol

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>we're an ally
lmao

>tfw 51st state so everyone will come to our rescue aslong as we meme along

more like the 11th province of canada, they're the ones who helped you guys last go around

we don't have canadian nukes we have american nukes

The Guardian is a highly respected print. That being said, the article he cited was an opinion piece.

Idiots should invest this money in our own military instead of bringing here usraelian occupation.

The real PLC sarmatian larpers were rich as fuck tho.