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Why aren't you a doctor user?

>never have to worry about "bear markets"

>amazing job security

>amazing pay

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but I am

>dealing with niggers all day trying to scam the system

Yeah I'll pass

By the time you finished your medicine degree a young banker/trader is 3 years off retiring.

because im too dumb and unmotivated to achieve greatness

By the time you finished your medicine degree a young banker/trader who comes from the top of their ivy league graduating class is 3 years off retiring.

FTFY

3rd year medical student pursuing opthalmology here.

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>I audibly kek everytime I have to tell someone their terminally ill.

>study 10 years to be a whore of the pharmaceutical industry and make people sick for jewgolds
Wow what a great and fulfilling career choice

but in the end does it really matter? i dont see how but even if you are a slave for the "jewgolds" you still walk home a succesful and happy man

im not a psychopath so that would not make me happy and i dont consider being a whore for big pharma and making people ill as being successful

suit yourself user, but here you are betting on virtual coins to profit you into success

yeah, it's a lot better but keep telling yourself otherwise, go hunt for that "prestige" while making people sick you fucking cuckold

On call 24/7
200k in student loans
Have to work until you're 65

> be bizman
> retire comfortably at 50
> residual income from business and real estate holdings
> long term crypto hodlings make you mega wealthy
> multi-generational wealth
> literally remembered as daddy warbucks.

>A decade or more of training
>Constant mandatory seminars to attend
>Life and death LITERALLY at your finger tips
>You do good you don't get thanked
>You do bad you get sued or worse thrown in jail.
>Long work hours
>Must have a high IQ or high determination to cram all the useless shit into your skull.

Yeah some jobs are meant for people that have the skills to do them not some random anons on the chans.

If you work in a specialty like anesthesiology you are never on call. Your knowledge of the field is very limited stop larping.

psychiatry

>retire comfortably at 50
with the option of pretty much living semi retired by your 30's

UK ICU doc here
Not a whore to finance or big pharma
Work hard, satisfying job
Still time to play the crypto waves
No need for rope if I get barted by the Bogs b/c still do cool shit few days a week & drink coffee with the other nurses and docs
And no NEET DVTs or pressure sores

Enjoy your bacon, beer and other "redpilled" foods user.

Literally everything in this thread so far is true
How you take that is a good determinant of whether you should be a doctor

kek yeah you go eat onions, white bread, aspartame, corn syrup, and whatever else your very well educated MD tells you to eat

>working with sick scum
enjoy your aids and cancer

what specialty are you in? anesthesiology is actually one of the few legitimate ones

I'm not a doctor because you can't buy your 20's back you stupid faggot. Now go drink by yourself to try and forget that SHE is happily married with kids now. Fuck you.

>Why aren't you a doctor user?

Robot are going to make Doctors unnecessary.

Greatest irony of being an MD:
All of this either breaks you or turns you into a monster

When you are returned to the wild and start competing with normal people again it's a slaughter

>he doesnt date girls a decade younger than him
s0yg0y

because im too autistic to deal with patients everyday

I was an anaesthesia trainee for 7 yrs (UK) and I was ALWAYS fucking on call. but it is sort of fun running around at night doing shit

>Doesn't understand the meaning of my post because he still wasted his youth while simultaneously not doing shit with his life.

I work in IT Security
>never have to worry about "bear markets" with insane shortage of skilled IT workers I can literally work anywhere in the world and command amazing salary

>amazing job security

>don't have to interact with people that much except to sit through a few weekly/monthly meetings

>when you're doing a good job nobody even knows you exist. no news is good news

>NO DEBT I don't even have a college degree, just bought books, studies, and got certifications

fucking doctor plebs.

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What do they call the guy who graduates last in medical school?
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A doctor.

Recommendations for books/certs/online study? Great field.

Net+, GSEC, CISSA in that order. If you can't land a solid job in a month with a CISSA you aren't applying.

Because I have bigger ambitions in life.

Thanks user. God bless ya.

Fuck this. I'm a Plastic Surgeon Im on duty for an entire week In a row some months. Hours are crazy. Pay is good. Not worth it if you aren't a public servant by heart. That is of course if you care about the patients. If you only care about money from the start focus on making money, not healing people .

I plan on going in. I am going to take the pre-reqs after I graduate over ~1 year. Do med schools look down upon the course load of prereqs? I can't take more than three of them at once desu because my school requires chem I&II for orgo I etc.

Because I'm a lazy unmotivated fuck that can't stand studying for 8 years

NEET or failed business man detected

Graduating from med school in less than a month. Dont do it. Being a doctor is a meme now. The field isnt what it used to be, the pay isnt, the patients arent, insurance companies try to fuck you, everyone attempts to prey on your altruism to get you to work like a dog, and the debt load is astronomical. For example, my best friend in my class and I both have well over 300k in debt each. And that is normal. Dont fucking do it.

Oh, and if you want to get in, I hope you have brown skin because they fucking love that. Seriously. Google acceptance and MCAT rates by race. My brown classmates regularly failed school and board exams and still got good residencies. Its sickening

di you have any proof user. also by brown you mean black

I understand the good days of being a physician are closing, but that is the case in every profession. I would still rather be a physician than be in some office job being one recession or Pajeet away from replacement. Do you know anything about the course load for prereqs? Is 12+ hours of hard science prereqs over a few semesters good enough for adcoms?
>I hope you are brown
My mom is a Cuban immigrant. I will be mentioning that, but I'm white af.

It is called affirmative action non-burger. By brown, he means black, Mexican, Puerto Rican, and maybe a few other Latin American countries.

I’m graduating in May also. Going into psych and later starting private practice. Low stress, $200k+ and I answer to nobody

Going to second this. I'm a PGY-3 resident in a non-surgical field. I have like 225k in debt?

I absolutely regret going into medicine. Do not let anyone convince you to go to medical school.

I have a friend who didn't match 2 years in a row and he killed himself. RIP.

>I have a friend who didn't match 2 years in a row and he killed himself. RIP.
Why didn't he join the military?

Nice projection. I work in management for a medium-sized public company. I'm doing just fine.

a job? no thank you

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i posted the clarification of black instead of brown for non-burgers as they would think that brown means pajeet.

Starting now is poor judgement. This will be an AI assisted technician job by the time you've paid off your loans and practice. You won't out earn a plumber.

If you specialize and do surgery you might make it but you'll kill your mind and body establishing yourself.

I don't think Uncle Sam forgives federal loans just for joining the military. Also can you really join in your mid to late 20s?

Lol didn't even see your other comment. You're literally projecting. I feel kinda bad for you now.

I meant join the military for his residency

I dropped out of Medical School. The effort isn't worth it IMO.

I'm pretty sure you have to be in the military already before medical school to get a secured spot for their residency programs. And I think you can list places like that on your ranklist through NRMP anyway without being in the military. I don't know a lot about military match stuff.

Claims of what? I will not give out self-identifying info online. If you mean claims of who they accept or the current state, you can google all of what I said. Pic related has been on the internet forever. By brown I mean anyone not white. Acceptance committees and administration have big hard-ons for diversity so anyone not a straight white male automatically gets a boost. Not only in acceptance but scholarships, auditions, residency placements, etc.

Probably doesnt matter HOW hard you load the semesters so long as you do well in all of the required classes and check off the rest of the boxes - crush the mcat, good letters of rec, research experience, meaningful volunteer experience, and are not a straight white male. Mention the fuck out of your heritage with no shame. They will lap it up.

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Which certifications do you recommend?

To all the medical students/doctors in this thread:

If you could re-do it and go for NP/PA instead, would you?

>depression
>loneliness
>20 hour shifts
>saving minorities
No thanks.

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Even better: my dad is a doctor. Get that $$$ in the end

sounds like id have to work if i were a doctor

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I'm completely illiterate when it comes to IT or anything tech related, what do you think of getting the comptia trifecta (A+, Net+, Sec+), then GSEC, then CISSA? Oh and CISSA was not a typo right? I keep getting infor about the CISA on google...

Go into the healthcare field now? Fuck no. Especially since I refuse to be a PA or NP and answer to someone else. Which leaves only being a doctor and like fuck that is worth it now.
But, if you HAD to go into healthcare to be a provider, yes PA is the way to go. Way less school and therefore debt, and good pay with less ridiculous workloads.

I used to be a college instructor. Would have just finished off grad school with a PhD and taught. Was a damn fun and easy job that I was great at. Hindsight is 20/20.

Also what path did you take in terms of positions? Did you start as IT helpdesk?

I have too much of a complex to be subservient to an autistic doctor my entire career. Don't CRNAs make close to 200k?

>If you could re-do it and go for NP/PA instead, would you?

The real issue I have with medicine is that most patients treat me like shit. I would feel more useful to society if I was a cashier or something. Residency is the ultimate wage cuckery, I make only 22% more per hour than minimum wage and I have work hour limits that are 240% higher than an airline pilot.

My goal is to pay off my loans and move to a nice rural area or another country and stop practicing medicine.

You could do A+ Net+ Sec+ CISSA.

CISSA is the associate certification for CISSP. You can't qualify for professional until you have 4 years of experience in the field. CISSA demonstrates core knowledge. Its the same exam as the CISSP.

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50% AA acceptances are reserved for women to, don't forget.

Becoming a doctor was my dream but couldn't hack it being in Ontario (literally worst place for prospective medical student).

I realised decades later that debt level is high and the pay sucks for at least 3-4 years out of medical school. It's not perfect. The job security is amazing but there's an opportunity cost of time spent.

None of the doctors I know are rich. They devote all their time to work and earn low six figs. Specialist make 3-400k but half is taken away in tax, and you can't find the time to spend the rest, just working all the time as you age.

The thing is you said brown instead of black. Brown generally refers to pajeets whereas blacks refers to african-american. African-americans receive a leg up in terms of affirmative action (black) while pajeets (brown) do not.

Many people here are advocating not to become a doctor, however besides a doctor what other valuable professions are left? Computer Science I feel is bound to be overstaturated soon and in that kind of field if you are not keeping up with the latest technology you are bound to be thrown and replaced with someone else who just graduated and is a fresh recruit.

Sounds like radiology. Work on a computer; limited patient interaction; mostly talk to other doctors; occasional quick procedures

I make more than the average doctor at the age of 22 as a programmer. I also don't have any college debt, go to work at 9 and come home at 5.

I started out customer service doing subscription cancellations and refunds for an antivirus company. Eventually became the lead technical support for north america. I got my CISSA and then left to do operations security. IT HelpDesk is also decent for the resume, but doing something in a domain of IT Security is preferable.

Well I wanted to say shitskin but figured I would be polite and use the catch-all term of brown since not everyone here is Jow Forums tier.

Are you afraid of outsourcing and oversatturation in your field? I am open to people saying that CS will be a field in demand as the world becomes more technologically based but the rise of the amount of CS graduates per year is alarming. Every year of unemployment as a CS major means tens of thousands of fresh college graduates that have just been added into the competition pool.

Why even go to college for CS and programming?

Companies hire based on skill and experience. Going to college is just a time and money opportunity cost.

Also it's worthless to learn basic programming. You have to go the in-demand languages like Solidity.

>Plastic Surgeon
>healing people

What specialties are you guys? Currently an MA at a GI lab, patients are either really chill or complete fucking assholes. Going for PA, hopefully ER and then switching to hem/onco.

Not all of them are doing boobjobs. For example, facial reconstructive surgery, facial skin lesion removal, etc...

It depends where you are. Most big companies require a degree in anything. Only startups are self-taught/hacker friendly.

>Working 60+ hours a week at a 40 hour a week salary cap in a highly stressful job

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IM

Because I can make more money sitting at home playing video games.

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Everything you said is wrong lol.

Senpai med -> Sports med

>decently high salary
>lower amount of school
>much tinier chance of being sued for malpractice
>never on call
>less workload
I'm quite comfy as a pharmacist. Paid off my loans in 24 months with crypto gains.

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