Argentina what are you doing

>What do they do with all the money they collect in taxes?
goes straight to welfare and to maintain the public sector and state employees

>What's wrong with Argentina, seriously?
half of the money goes to gibs for dindus.its literally impossible to sustain this and if you try to change it monkeys riot

>how are they a commodity dependent economy
>shows graph of mainly commodity exports

Over half, to be exact.
Norway and Austrailia have reliable trade partners, while South America has China and eachother, for the main part. Which aren't very reliable.

Is Argentina a welfare state? How much can you get for neeting?

You barely have any dindus, you can't fucking use that as an excuse. We have a shit ton more dindus and are doing just fine.

>spics taking jobs from other countries
Why is this a thing?

>shows graph of mainly commodity exports

Even fucking Canada exports mostly commodities but you wouldn't call it a commodity economy.

>Norway and Austrailia have reliable trade partners, while South America has China and eachother, for the main part. Which aren't very reliable.

Well, but what kind of reliability do you need from a country you buy soya from? Has Argentina ever failed at delivering the goods it sells to another country?

Who are dindus in Argentina?

Like 300 usd, plus the Government pays your services... And free education, free healthcare, almost free transport.

ok replace dindus with neets ,its the same shit ..halfs of the budget goes to benefits.
even if you do have a job you may qualify for the benefits because the taxes an employer has to pay are so high most people working low tier jobs are paid in cash without accounting for any taxes and this means they are officially unemployed and load of people exploit this

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Well, exports aren't everything. See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_economic_complexity

LOL

I want to live in Argentina so badly now

>IMF loan
>selling your country out for virtual money

You faggots never learn

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do you think Hungary's economy is really more stable than Denmark?

>free education
schools are shit even if universities are good or at least decent,most students drop because they dont learn anything in highschool
>free heathcare

>go to hospital
>full of bolivians

>need an appointment with the doctor
>lol you can have one in eight months
>end up paying private hospital anyways

Half of those 50 billion will go to welfare, state employees, make peronist syndicalists happy and to maintaing public school and hospitals which are exploited by immigrants anyway, and we'll be forced to take another loan in a couple of years time.

Please put an end to ArJUSTina's misery.

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>You barely have any dindus, you can't fucking use that as an excuse.

Are you fucking joking?

This is the dindus country... Not only the Government loves give money to poors, we have everything free and subsidiated, healthcare, education, services, transport... On top of that literally 22% of our laboral force works for the state (and guess who pays their salaries, vacations, etc?)

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>borrowing from the IMF
Poor fucks

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Denmark is a welfare state, so they are more vulnerable in a way. Like Argie said, the more you spend on welfare the less you spend on other things. While Hungary is expanding trade and creating more companies.

Dindus = Blacks.

>and creating more companies.

They just get more and more German factories where they're paid $600/month

>On top of that literally 22% of our laboral force works for the state

Proofs? Probably there's your problem, if that's true.

This is your country on neol*beralism. Good job ArgentANUS.

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You're misusing dindu, it doesn't mean poor.

The worst part is that is pretty hard to go away from this welfare structure...

Macri is trying to do this, and suddenly the average argentine family faces the real price of the services they consume, like the gas bill comes 70% more expensive, public transport ticket price get increased and stuff like that makes him unpopular.

Never get into this welfare shit

There’s barely any Black people in Argentina so what’s your excuse?

Fuck wipipo

Pic related was proof, but I'll give you links in spanish too

clarin.com/economia/argentina-gasto-publico-similar-paises-ricos_0_Syg9_X_SZ.html

South americans are classcucked and either believe BASED right wingers or SJW leftists.

I think he's just confused with the term "Dindus"

We call didus to unproductive people who works for the State.

What are mestizos

>Argentina
>white

You can't blame Mestizos, Chileans are Mestizos and are doing just fine.

I think your problem is, from seeing this chart that you guys have the idea that you're Europeans and so you need a European type welfare state while having the economy of a Sudaca country. Get rid of the european delusion and just face the truth, you're not europeans. Then you can start developing your country better.

What I'm saying it has anything to do with race you stupid chicano.

Mestizos, cacos, turros are dumb poor people who get State jobs because they're too stupid (like you) to get a competitive job, and that's the problem.

How do you insert pic related in a competitive company?

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>implying most state jobs arent pure nepotism

See, you're still doing it.
Still blaming others for your own failures.

Blame Mestizos all you want, but even Colombia will surpass you while you cry and blame others like a child.

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Whatever makes you sleep at night chicano

I'm Salvadorean, my Argie-friend. I know about shit countries, because salvador is one of the shittiest on this world. Yet, all salvadoreans do is blame hondurans or Americans for their problems.

Like you're doing.

>all salvadoreans do is blame hondurans

lol, what did Honduras do to El Salvador?

they look like pure Italians desu

Both Countries are US puppets (Both sent troops to the Iraq war even), but Hondurans are just shit people overall and wouldn't give us their clay they don't even use, even after we kicked their asses during the football war.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War

that was a gang fight, not a war

how can countries that speak the same language and have basically the same history hate each other that much?

Then the OAS should have fucked off.
And hurr gang stereotype, gangs didn't exist till after the civil war, when US gangs were deported to El Salvador.

They're backstabbing assholes, that's how. I've never met a good honduran. Even here in America, I never met people who were more stuck up than hondurans.

So, exactly like Brazil...

>literally selling your country
Ancap utopia

>They're backstabbing assholes, that's how. I've never met a good honduran. Even here in America, I never met people who were more stuck up than hondurans.

do you really believe they might be any different from you? you're basically the same people - the same genes, history, culture, look, language, everything

To give you a more exact answer. both countries are banana republics where US corporations owned most of the land. Salvador being a smaller and dense state, had people immigrating to Honduras. The Honduran elites didn't like this, neither did the United Fruit company, so they started making propaganda about "Muh salvadorean invasion" and started killing salvadoreans so El Salvador invaded. Later on during the central american crisis, honduras was basically a military base for the US, where the contras sent troops to nicaragua, but also trained Salvadorean pro-US death squads against the FMLN rebels in El Salvador.

A welfare state that's difficult to disarm due to the levels of inflation and poverty (which is pretty big, around 30%). So the plan of the current goverment basically became "let's go as slow as needed to prevent uprisings," which does mostly prevents uprisings but puts us in the slow lane to a better economy.
And having your main exports vulnerable to droughts and floods doesn't help.

Think of North and South Korea, or North and South vietnam when it existed. Hondurans are more conservative by far than Salvadoreans, they even have a US military base, and name their children random english words like "hammer" or "America"
I'm not even kidding...

>A welfare state that's difficult to disarm due to the levels of inflation and poverty (which is pretty big, around 30%). So the plan of the current goverment basically became "let's go as slow as needed to prevent uprisings," which does mostly prevents uprisings but puts us in the slow lane to a better economy.

well, so why don't people in Chile rebel?

>And having your main exports vulnerable to droughts and floods doesn't help.

you know, countries that export oil are dependent on global prices too

how long before they become the next venezuela?

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china has a strong army,we have shit

>Think of North and South Korea

Oh please, you didn't have so different political systems, as you say, you both were banana republics

>Hondurans are more conservative by far than Salvadoreans, they even have a US military base, and name their children random english words like "hammer" or "America"

How is being pro-American "conservative"? Especially in Central America?

That's insane, how do you even manage a country like this?

Why do you answer to that butthurt middle-class intellectual?

Chile, not China m8

Do you know anything about Cold war Central America?

there were riots in chile not long ago

not much, but if the differences were really striking, I'd hear about it

doesn't look like they affected the country's economy or policy

hold my mate a second
*kills himself*

Chile's economy stabilized while Argentina's economy was spending way much more than we get.
The core issue is the argentinian people though, our contemporary culture (thinking about society's behaviour) is absolutely fucked up.

>biggest export
>soy
i spotted the problem

Are you talking about those riots because of private universities? That's pretty much self explanatory.

The problem is that argentinians have been entitled for too long, the economy is sinking because the government always spent more than what it was responsible for a country of their economical characteristics

Soy consumption is non-existant considering how much we produce. We plant it to feed Chong.

It's funny anyway that they've been in the crisis since the 1960s and gone bankrupt several times yet their GDP per capita, HDI and other indicators are still high, so are wages, despite inflation. They never went full Venezuela mode and after every slowdown they managed to bounce back, so it's still the richest South American country

Unironically I have the best wishes for Argentina. They are cool, and a good latin america would be one ruled by the sphere of influence of the southern cone.

Their success would only be a possitive thing for everyone.

It was about striking ideologies.The Government death squads raped American nuns, killed the archbishop of el salvador, and massacred innocents, they were all trained and funded by the US in and with the help of the Hondurans. They directly attacked Nicaragua too. It got so bad that even the US congress banned Reagon from funding any right wing government in Central America, which inevitably led to the Iran-Contra Affair.
To understand the whole conflict, you'd have to understand the Salvadorean civil war and Nicaraguan revolution then the contra war.

Why do you guys hate chis

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>Commodity economies
>Brazil

Ok so I guess you don't like conservating, rightism and you're inclined towards communism more, right?

They lie alot in their statistics, that's what an argie told me once.

That's part of the argentine talent... Many think we have greek tier economist (which is right) but behind that we have the talent to somehow keep the boat floating, barely, but floating.

The problem isn't the loan but what you do to pay the loan.If you do austerity you're fucked

but they live pretty well too

>only 22% of the workforce works for the state
Look at Denmark. Economy is stagnant as hell because of it and the world's biggest welfare state, but at least nowhere near collapsing like Argentina. Something a lot bigger is causing the problems in argieland

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No, my uncle killed leftist. Thing is, the peasant protests weren't about communism at all. They were about land nationalism, like in Mexico during their revolution (which wasn't communist either). Each time the government retaliated they made things worse, because they just killed innocent people. How can you kill nuns and an archbishop then pretend you're in the right? They pretty much made tthem communists, since only nicaragua and cuba would sell them guns. The FMLN still exists as a political party.

They are actually lying, and they hide a lot of data from the public

Once you install a big welfare state it's impossible to reign it in long term. People will always vote for more gibs once they get used to it and if given the chance.

>Something a lot bigger is causing the problems in argieland

No, main problem here is excessive public expending.

We are middle class and still the State pay 50% of our gas, electricity and water bill... To the poors they pay 80% of the bill.

>having a big social net, welfare state and government is ancap utopia

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Keynesian economics work as long as you keep the budget deficit really low and a good economic growth(at least 2,5%).China for example needs at least 5% gdp growth JUST to maintain their debt to gdp stable,BUT their debt to gdp is growing so they are either lying about their budget deficit or economic growth

Whatever they do, you must agree an average Argie lives better than an average Mexican, he earns more money, he has better living standards etc., despite Argentina's economy collapsing every decade while Mexico's been pretty stable economy-wise for a long time.

Well, so you mean that your right-wing government was actually anticlerical...well, I'll probably never understand the Latinos.

Argies GDP is 21k, while Mexico's is 20k
It isn't that much of a difference.

You know shit about latam

Argentina faces the same problems as any european country,they have a relatively low population,lack of resources and a huge public spending while mexico,brazil,canada and usa have an ever expanding economy sustained by their resources exploration

ill use the money to buy a gf

per capita*

So Argentina is exactly like Brazil in that the public spending is massive and the people pay ridiculous taxes to sustain it.