Why are Americans so religious?

The U.S. have been a refuge for deranged cults/sects from Europe, particularly in the more "experimental" period in our history.

>not worshipping a kike on a cross is considered leftism now

I guess hitler was a dumb librul!!

>cunts where you can go in any home and find a crucifix on the wall

Religious freedom has always been part of American society and we don't have Europe's history of state religions and suppressing minority faiths that might disrupt the social order.

De Tocqueville wrote in the 1820s that religious fervor was stronger in America than any other country he had been to.

In many parts of the country there's fuck all to do for free other than go to church

on top of this Europe has a long history of extreme religious fuckery, while religion and religious belief in America just seems to make people weird and annoying but mostly harmless
America also seems to have a big thing with homegrown cults that we definitely don't have, but maybe that's just a cultural thing not an actual religious thing idk

A lot of churches perform community functions or they're just hangout clubs for old people who have nothing better to do.

I'm irreligious, but I kind of miss the community aspect of church, to be desu.

>on top of this Europe has a long history of extreme religious fuckery, while religion and religious belief in America just seems to make people weird and annoying but mostly harmless

That probably has to do with having state churches. Unfortunately, trying to impose ideological conformity on people never leads to a stable, functional society. As it turns out, if you just let people be and they're allowed to believe in whatever they want instead of the religion some king says you have to follow, everyone gets along better and is much happier.

The Netherlands is an interesting exception because religious pluralism was always a thing there since the Middle Ages. Although there were times such as the Dutch Golden Age when legal restrictions existed on Catholicism, for the most part religious tolerance was always quite high by European standards.

In a lot of countries, churches are a political/national banner more than necessarily a revealed faith.

many of the colonists were religious extremists who were exiled from europe like the puritans and in the tight knit colonial community they could easily radicalise each other

Puritans were only a thing in New England though, and they were not all that different from European churches of the time in that they did not tolerate other faiths and wanted to impose their beliefs as the state religion. Rhode Island was originally founded as a colony with complete freedom of belief for everyone in Massachusetts who didn't want to be Puritans.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_religion_in_the_United_States

problem is you never really evolved past that and now youve just become an islamophobic judeophilic christian nation. not to mention religion was used as a tool to keep the slaves down

And off the record, witch trials happened in Europe for decades after they stopped in the colonies. They were going on in Europe into at least the mid-18th century while most of the colonies had taken witchcraft out of their penal codes by the 1720s. Also witch trials in the colonies usually preferred to hang the accused since it was more humane than burning them at the stake like was done in Europe.

Gave yourself away there, Ahmed. Time for you to go back home.

Same. It's really the only aspect of community America has left

Pope Pius VII said "By fighting the Barbary Pirates, the United States has done more for the cause of Christendom than all the so-called Christian nations of Europe in more than a century."

>youve just become an islamophobic
yeah because ""islamophobic"" is a negative

this why they respond to us with t. muhammad, because you're probably an actual muhammad
or just an ordinary massive cuck

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We never went through secularization to the degree that Europe did, since we already had a friendly but firm separation of church and state, and a long history of religious tolerance and religious fervor meant that it was an important part of American identity.

If he's not a Mudslime, he's probably a Guardian reader.

I really don’t understand. America is supposed to be the land of individualism, entrepreneurship and free-thinking.

Christianity, on the other hand, is such a disgustingly servile and conformist religion - one that seeks to relieve everyone of personal responsibility and agency - that I would expect Americans to be the least religious in the world.

>yeah lets make enemies with 1b billion people because what the hell

why dont you stick to Jow Forums where youre among like minded retards

1 billion that want you dead

You sure you're not thinking of Islam there?

And in fact Jesus was the original rebel. He told everyone they didn't need t follow the arcane Jewish laws to be saved.

I hate it when someone says something so extremely retarded that I don't know even how to reply to it.
I'll just ask, are you a Muslim yourself?

no im not but i was baptised and i used to go bible college

14% of Americans are mulatoes with an IQ of 80.

America was founded by people who were seen as religious zealouts in the 15 century.

Islam is fascist and totalitarian, and one million times worse for a society than Christianity
But I was raised Lutheran and have studied the Bible quite thoroughly, before I finally broke through that thinking. It is essentially a servile religion. Most of the hymns and psalms are about how insignificant we are, and how we must devote ourselves to God entirely. It’s nonsense to keep the masses in line. I quite like the teachings of Jesus and try to emulate them myself, because I think they’re very positive, but the greater theology crafts willing servants

Lutheranism is more collectivist than Catholicism or some other Christian branches.

i hope this was pasta. didn't read, sorry.

That's a poor excuse. Going or not going to church has nothing to do with your other activities.

It is, it’s a more strict doctrine for sure but the Bible and Psalms and Hymns are the same. Literally pick out any hymn right now and it will be either about praising God, talking about our inadequacies and asking his forgiveness, or exulting about how those who believe will serve God in the afterlife. You are obviously a Christian, and I understand the mentality of believing, I understand it thoroughly. But it is a religion that despises personal agency and independent thought. Does it despise it as much as Judaism and Islam? Perhaps not, but it is an enemy of the liberated mind all the same

hello shitskin. a lot of your kin are dead and that's great.

this but whithout the retard in the pic

They don't think about things

There's no such thing as "islamophobia" in a meaningful sense. Not liking Islam or Muslims is not an irrational fear. Not wanting your country to become increasingly Islamic either demographically or culturally is not an irrational thing. We wouldn't need to be scared of making an 'enemy' of a billion people if we hadn't invited them to live here in their millions.

then why the fuck did you even feel the need to reply
what the actual fuck is wrong with you. you genuine unironic retard.

i like letting people know they are retards. that's for your own good, you will be more self aware.

>doesn't read the post
>feels the need to give an opinion anyway
so you were basically upset by what you skimmed over and wanted me to know about it. you sound like an embarrassing manchild who's in no position to be talking about self-awareness. kys

World War 1 fucked us up a lot harder than WW2

I agree. I never specified WW2, the entire 20th century was a hell century.

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except it is an irrational fear. there is nothing normal about hating an entire group, its fine to hate individuals sure but to hate an entire group is nonsensical unless youve had several bad experiences but even then it can only go so far, just because i got food poisoning once doesnt mean im gonna spend the rest of my life hating or avoiding that particular food

The crucifixes are too keep out demons, not religious

Because religion is based and redpilled

A coping mechanism for their lack of culture

>there is nothing normal about hating an entire group
Did I say hate?
I don't think it's particularly rational to "hate" all Muslims. That's an extreme amount of emotional energy spent on nothing. And I also don't think what you said is true anyway, even you probably hate some "entire groups".
But it's pretty rational to strongly dislike Islam as an ideology, and it's totally valid to not want Muslims to live in your country if you're a European, and especially not in large numbers.
Islamophobia is an invalid concept because it's not an actual fear, and it's not irrational to have an aversion to it or its followers, and it's not even irrational to actually fear Muslims living in your country in non-insignificant numbers considering the cultural incompatibility and the... y'know, literal massacres (and other major crimes) we seem to regularly have now that the Muslim population is significantly large.

It's not a mental illness to have an aversion of any magnitude to either Islam or Muslims. Framing it that way is genuinely insane. Perhaps you shouldn't be so eager to call people retards and send them to Jow Forums if you don't actually know what you're talking about in the first place. Also your analogy is dumb as fuck m8

Finland has no culture but we hate God

But God is finnish. Do you hate yourselves?

doesnt Finland and most of scandinavia have that behaviour similar to china where there is a big following of spiritualism and folk religions but almost non existent organised religion

You want the real answer? The United States was colonized by religious extremists and heretics who fled their countries to find safety in the new world. So basically we are protestants on steroids but almost exclusively the fucking weird sects of Protestantism that even other protestants couldn't stand.

its irrational because its pointless and nonsensical, islamic terror is a real thing yes but an entire religion whos followers are also victims of terrorism doesnt deserve persecution because of it, by your logic all christians or white caucasians should be persecuted for the many bad things we have done in history

shut your mouth wh*Te subhuman, all wh*Tes will be extinct in several hundred years, wh*Te invaders in africa are being gutted right now and you’re being outbred everywhere else

Can't tell since I always associate you with a snowy wasteland of slant-eyed animistic hunter-gatherers
America is incomparable with Europe since their politics are far too different, America is a civilization for itself and should be examined by its differences rather than similarities

I also call that a side effect of Protestantism

Pretty much everyone is a member of the Lutheran church but no one is really religious

No, that's not my logic. You're not very good with analogy.

And Islam and Muslims aren't bad just because of terrorism or history.
They're bad because their religion is fucking vile even by the standard of general religion, and because Muslims tend to be extremely culturally incompatible with the western world, plus virtually all of them are ethnically foreign so flooding countries with them will only fuck up the demographics of those countries to absolutely no benefit to anybody whatsoever, apart from maybe themselves, but especially not to the native people.
I'm not saying you should "hate" all Muslims. I'm just saying that Islamophobia is a totally invalid concept and an extremely stupid word to be throwing around.
It's not irrational to fear or dislike Islam.
It's not irrational to not want Muslims to live in your country or to fear the demonstrable consequences of that. None of this is "pointless and nonsensical", and I didn't say we should "persecute" Muslims.

I'm trying to be very sincere while you're basically making shit up because you seem to have your own low-iq preconceived notions about all of this.

Stop responding to the troll/mentally ill moslem

Why shouldn't it be? Are your threatened by people that live there lives according to the moral standards and rites of civilization? I think you are!

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t. uncultured rougeneck

Muslims have been in Europe for centuries mate.

Yet the backbone of the denominations, their development and evolution, and the founders are generally educated, higher IQ people.
Not like you, obviously.

It's not an enemy of free thought.
It promotes being servant to the Almighty, which comes with essentially no drawbacks. The Bible is primarily about telling people what do about their spiritual lives and some great general advice for a few miscellaneous topics, and that's it.
We're on "our own" after that, pray to Him for help and guidance along the way.
Some denominations choosing to interpret and derive things harmful to free thought is a different can of worms, because humans historically just can't avoid adding their own crap to His will.

Religion seems to take on a nationalistic role in burgerland. Loving God means loving your country and vice versa there. Thats why republicucks always talk about their faith.

In absolutely minuscule numbers, mate.

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Loving your country falls in with "loving your neighbor as yourself", as taught by Jesus.
And well, us Americans frequently love our country, despite its faults. I'm pretty sure that this applies to a lot of people in most countries.

inb4 "national pride", that's a terrible load of excrement, and not the same thing as loving your country

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He was a leftist

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