Colombia is fucked

I'll still vote for Duque though. I don't want a banana commie in La Casa de Nariño because it would be almost impossible to make him leave on his own accord (just ask Nicaragua, Cuba or Venezuela about that). I also want to spit on those who believe banana commies are not as corrupt as, if not more corrupt than, the main establishment.

there was two pretty decent choices but they didn't make up to the second round, jesus christ

you are part of the problem

No, there are no more choices to pick from.
And yes, Colombians are more retarded to what they seem to be.

than what they seem to be.

we have the firs round of elections with like 6 candidates, then after that, the second round has the remaining 2 candidates, 1 candidate won that place with empty promises and the other one won because he has the support of the president from 8 years ago, and yes, we can be very retarded if we put our minds into it

t. butthurt commie

no commie just someone with common sense who doesn't want an uribe to get to the power

i think saying petro is better just because he is not uribe is pretty dumb, he wasnt the best mayor in bogota, he even has financial problems in his personal life

Sorry, user. I wish you luck and I hope that the lesser evil wins the election.

If your vice-president is decent then you can do the same that we had done with Cuckhinsky.

You will be fucked even more on 24th June, prepare for it

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what worries me are the transgender policies, right wings can be very harsh with us

we'll see about that

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Venuzula needs another socialist cunt to help out

Uribe is based though.

yeah, his views are very backwards, that is the problem, i think duque is better for the economy, petro for human rights

Could be worse, you could be Venezuelan

>based
he is the trump of colombia, i doesnt matter what he does, his followers will support him

many people fear that with petro, we will end up like venezuela, but i think that is an exageration

Reminder to vote for the greater evil to accelerate societal collapse.

Costeños voted overwhelmingly for Petro in the 1st round. What a fucking bunch ofgood or nothing parasites. Good people who don't want anything from government and who don't buy into the "social justice" bullshit rethoric are voting Duque

Trump sounds bad for u because u arent american retard

>i think that is an exageration
Venezuelans used to think that to regarding the association between chavez and Cuba. I prefer not to risk it

i mean, he has done good for the economy, but as a human being, he is a bit fucked

Well, I'm a person with common sense who doesn't want a filthy commie to become president.

mfw american mindset for choose trump makes sense now
what i care are what the other user says, my human rights, i could cry on my knees to you for help me
we have a congress, it won't happen that easy, trust me

the problem is, duque will be able to do whatever he wants, petro wont be able to do shit, because congress is against him, soooo, it depends which is better

>muh human rights
>petro for human rights
you mean going after people's private property (the very basic right to own shit) and take it away from them in order to redistribute to people who complain about not having shit, mainly because they don't do anything to change that and instead make bad decision after bad decision is beneficial to the human rights situation in our country?

Do you believe someone who was convicted for insurgency and illegal use of arms is somehow a good option as president? Someone who left the his tenure as Bogota Mayor with a huge fiscal deficit is good for our country? Someone who has trash talked our biggest companies: Ecopetrol and Avianca loves our country?

Fuck him! I don't want that ind of toxic person as my president. Also, I don't know if you remember how this country was before Uribe, we coudln't even do roadtrips from the inland to the coast without fear of being kidnapped. Uribe changed all that

that is an even bigger reason to vote for petro, is better to have parts of a goverment that disagree with each other than someone with supreme power, seeing it that way, voting for petro is the way for avoid the venezuela fate

I feel you colombro, we have elections soon too.

i agree with you, the problem is that uribes solution affected a lot of people, the "falsos positivos" and las bacrim. also duque doesnt have much experience.. so.... thats is why i said, we are fucked

AMLO is the equivalent of Petro my Mexibro.

He does what he have to even when its politically incorrect

viva Petro hijueputas

>avoid the venezuela fate
In venezuela most of the popultion is against the government, which also shut down other institutions controlled by the opposition. That can't happen here if both government and the population is ok with it.

I mean isn't the utter stte of Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba, Ecuador, Bolivia and until recently BRazil and Argentina enough proof that what Petro wants toimplement in Colombia is an utter failure?

the thing is... what he did is not politically incorrect... its just bad, its normal that the inocent suffer in hands of the "bad guys" but when the government is to be blamed for a big part of your suffering, any country would impeach him

T. 19 years old public university student

Petro voters: Peole who have never paid taxes who want to increase the income tax of everyone (remember they don't pay taxes because they don't work) in order to freeload on the productive segment of population.
Duque voters: Fiscally conservative taxpayers and people with at least a decent degree of knowledge about economics

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> imagine literally targeting and seeing the main generators of emplyoment as the enemy
> imagine actually proposing to shut down the corporation that literally handles 1/3 of our gdp in order to grow fucking avocados.

Fuck off, this dude is beyond fucked inthe head. not to mention his populist speech targeting and brainwashing lgbt minorities, feminists, indian and black minorities. That's populism as he doesn't have a vible plan to put any of his proposals forward

the problem in colombia is, for a lot of people going to work is impossible either because of the time it takes to WALK to their jobs or because leaving their house is fucking dangerous, look at medellin in la comuna 13 where there is an invisible line where you could get killed if you pass to the other side, (i still think duque is better for the economy, but some of his ideas are just backgwards)

what makes you think that a leftist government would be better for security? Check venezuela, nicaragua, Brazil who has been incresing the homicide rate until recently when Temer (center-right) took office. Look at sweden France and most of the EU devolve into 3rd world due to leftist policies. Meanwhile, the economy of the USA under Trump is unironically at one of its highest peaks in history. We need to keep going through the path that we are going, not change in in order to take the venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Cuba route

Yeah Colombia, you're elections are shit.

Petro is definitely the lesser of two evils though.
All those "we'll turn out like Venezuela" faggots didn't learn. It's not like after voting yes on the peace deal you've turned commie. Same stupidity again

i am not saying its better, i think both choices are awful, i personally voted for fajardo in the first round, but yeah, its not better, but some people just want something different

the problem is that i dont think a socialist sistem like in some european countries is a bad thing, but we dont have the economy and stability to make it work

We voted majority NO in the plebiscite, it was our current "center" (read left) government (which Petro supported and who won against Uribe's party in 2014) that vetoed the popular vote from people in congress.

Everyone who wants a change from the status quo instead of keeping going down the hole we are going under Santos is gonna vote Duque

>Europe is third world now
>This is what Duque-shills actually believe
Just keep voting for backwards, corrupt, ultra-conservatives. That'll sure get you up there on the same level as the US now that the EU is down there with you in the third world.

Duque is not a change of the status quo.
It's more of the same shit.

>after voting yes
??

The european countries which said socialist programs are RICH as fuck, they have some of the highest GDPs per capita on earth + a high fiscal surplus, we are still literally below the global average.

In order for those systems to work, you need to have the money to make it work and an extremely productive population. We have neither. Our best bet is to keep on capitalizing and growing our economy instead of flushing our country down the sink or shooting ourselves in the foot like those socialist european countries are doing.

I wouldn't mind copying the Switzerland or Ireland model though, but the scandinavian model is overrated and a failure

Duque is from the opposition party you fucking brainlet. Petro is more of the same shit, he supported Santos in 2014 to beat Zuluaga (Centro democratico)

If you don't know shit about this country better don't talk

Fair enough, forgot the result was a no since the deal went through anyway.
Regardless, Colombia isn't the socialist hellhole Uribe made it out to be.

yeah...... well.... again, we are fucked

its the opposition with the same ideas, dont get me wrong, santos was a bad president, but saying duque will be different because he didnt like the peace agreement is just dumb

Petro is a hard left ex-Guerilla. Please explain how he is more of the same after Uribe and his former Defense Minister.
Also please explain how Duque, on the other hand, IS a change in a country that has had fundamentally conservative governments for decades.

Don't know if you understand spanish but......

> Petrists join Santos campaign (May 2014)
elespectador.com/noticias/politica/petrismo-se-une-campana-de-santos-articulo-492008

> Petro, new Santos' wildcard for his reelection
lasillavacia.com/historia/petro-el-nuevo-fichaje-de-santos-para-su-reeleccion-47400

> Pardo and Petro, united and supporting Santos
semana.com/nacion/elecciones-2014/articulo/pardo-petro-unidos-por-el-apoyo-santos/390005-3

> Historic Alliance between Santos and Petro
elcolombiano.com/historico/alianza_santos-petro-EXEC_297333

> Petrists will vote for Santos' reelection
eltiempo.com/archivo/documento/CMS-14024347

Thank man, we don't want more of the same shit. santos current approval rating is below 20%,one of the worst in history

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he is not hard left, but he does have a more leftist point of view, and the ex guerrilla thing does not help him

>please explain how Duque, on the other hand, IS a change
because our current governemnt is more left leaning than they admit to be

santos has that raiting because he was a bad president, but he still has most of the same ideas as uribe exept for the agreements

no, look at the comunas, el choco and most of colombia, our governemet doesnt care about lower class citicens, our governmet is more right leaning.. its just that the president is bad.
this is not a problem of sides, it is a problem of bad administraton

Uribe is the reason why colombia is no longer a failed state africa tier, and its 100 times better vote for him ratver than for a high risk -low reward ex guerrilla member.

Petro left Bogota with a $97.000 million Detrimento patrimonial

eltiempo.com/bogota/gustavo-petro-debe-pagar-multa-por-detrimento-patrimonial-en-bogota-por-esquema-de-aseo-147194
caracol.com.co/emisora/2017/11/17/bogota/1510930357_019125.html

He is a very bad manager. He ended the privte transportation city which charged about $1500 and now we have a state owned transit system called SITP, which its service is crap and the frequencies are lower than private transportaion, and on top of that we have to pay $2300 for a ride. So, pay more for a worse service only because it is state owned and they don't want competiotion. That's not to mention that SITP is probably bankrupt as we speak
elespectador.com/noticias/bogota/suma-el-tercer-operador-del-sitp-que-se-acoge-ley-de-quiebra-articulo-720953
caracol.com.co/emisora/2017/11/01/bogota/1509544562_869356.html
semana.com/nacion/articulo/crisis-del-sitp-quiebra-de-suma/545792

There are 2 options Jose, and petro isnt the greatest administrator as u can see

Imagine if the demography of Choco were similar to that of their neighboring departments (Antioquia or risaralda). It's not about central allocation of resources. In this case we'll need to talk about politically incorrect topics such as race and how they influence on the quality of life of the citizens of a particualr place

choco has a lot of resources, it is just so corrupt that it just cant progress, i dont think race influences quality of life in itself, there is so much going on here that maybe racism in the government wouldnt be the weirdest thing

>i dont think race influences quality of life in itself,
ok keep deluding yourself then. It'd be hard to argue with you if you believe this after tons of research done. There's a strong correlation between IQ, quality of life and race. The fact that you are an SJW who believes in forced social equality may prevent you from seeing beyond your own biases though

why is it a SJW thing to think that you can be stupid or smart no matter the color of your skin

because they push inclusion and force everyone to believe that everyone deserves the same shit just because they exist. They fail to recognize individual effort and choices in life that lead to a person'r current situation

And yes they distribution of IQ varies vastly by race, so if a person is of a certain race I can make a rough estimate of how smart they mught be. Of course, there are outliers and I don't have any problem with them. I just don't like stupid people from whatever race they are

1) no, believing that race is not related to IQ, helps the idea that you dont deserve anything because of your race and that no matter your color you have to work fro what you want

2) maybe the distribution of iq is because mostly lack communities are the ones that have less attention from the government, and their school system is not the best.

things are not as easy as, he is black or he is white so he is ________

Is there any pro-market force in Colombia?

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ok, nice mental gymnastics, now back to reality. You have 5 continents full of independent governments to disprove your own theory

Duque (pic related)

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Hablen en español parranda de hijueputas a caso no es un post colombiano?

If duque wins, how could I emigrate to Colombia?

>implying you won't reelect the communist

mexico will get a communist too so you can all hang out in a little club with maduro y cuba

most spanish countries don't bother enforcing borders so you could just fly in and get citizenship after buying a house, having a child or teaching pre-algebra as they are things most beaners are incapable of doing themselves

>just fly in and get citizenship after buying a house
That's different from what I was told.

This is bullshit. Colombia has tougher citizenship laws than the USA for instance

The only way to gain citizenship within a lifetime here is to marry a colombian and maybe have kids and then naturalize after 5 or 10 years but if you are looking for easy citizenship then your best bets are Argentina or Canada. I've seen some russian working in IT and tourism here, but I believe the community is smaller than 2k russians countrywide

>Argentina
I had a feeling Argentinians are not so warm people as Colombians. More German and European immigrants of XIX and beginning of XX maybe.

>sudaca country
>strict anything

jajajajajajajajajajajajajajajaja

even in mexico I get to watch cops smoke weed when they're not gifting tickets to tourists

yes we never received german immigration. Only Spaniards+lebanese. Non spaniard immigration was prohibited until mid XIX century. Argetnina received Europeans from everywhere including russians

I see you love memes

Yeah, well, we have to decide between 4 even shittier options in like 2 weeks.

You choose a one leftist populist from four different leftist populists as always?

>some russian working in IT
That's unexpected.
Young unsettled down shifters I suppose.

we had 4 options, but this is the 2nd round. We could've had a center right candidate (Duque) and a sane non populist center left candidate (Fajardo), but populism prevailed and now we have a far left candidate (Petro) who can potentially destroy what we've build in the last 2 decades

Whoever you vote for try to stay away from populism, sadly those types of candidates appeal to the masses

TL,DR Democrcy was a mistake

>Democrcy was a mistake
Democracy is good when you have a strict electorate cense, and highly educated protestant voters.

Who is the candidate who hates the USA the most? That's your least puppet like and not bought out by corporate money candidate and the one you should support.

Mexico hasn't been a leftist country in a very long time. Our "green party" is actively advocating for the death penalty, our last 2 presidents thought it was a good idea to send literal death squads (the army) into the streets to purge our drug dealers, to the only effect of triplicating violence. We are the country with the most FTAs in the world, and since the 80s, every single government run business has been privatised, from phones, electricity to the oil industry. Our current "leftist" populist candidate is allied with the literal evangelical party, actively asking to put a priest to run the human rights department, saying he will consult the Pope to advise what we should do regarding violence, etc., Allied himself with 2 ex-presidents of our right-wing Catholic party, who are actively asking that abortions shouldn't be allowed in any case, even in the case of rape, and is currently proposing to completely privatize the construction of our new airport. He actually has some literal communists in his circle, but, his party is an unholy alliance of the worst parts of every single ideology, including the far right. He only cares about power, not about leftist ideals.

>In Latin American countries like Nicaragua, it is a slow erosion of democracy rather than an overt rupture that threatens long-term progress and stability.
>carnegieendowment.org/2017/11/16/unchecked-demise-of-nicaraguan-democracy-pub-74761

Don't you have anything better to do, you useless fuck?

>t. Jose "CIA" Jones

ojala gane el peor

gracias