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Hahaha being so weak that even Greece can force you to change your own country's name

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The foreign ministers of Macedonia and Greece have signed a historic agreement on a modified name for the former Yugoslav republic, a major step in ending a 27-year dispute.

Formerly known as Macedonian, the country is now to be renamed the Republic of North Macedonia. Parliaments in both countries must still ratify the deal.

The two countries’ prime ministers -- Zoran Zaev of Macedonia and his Greek counterpart, Alexis Tsipras -- attended the signing ceremony in the Greek fishing village of Psarades, along with United Nations and European officials.

"Our peoples want peace...We will be partners and allies," Zaev said.

The name dispute between Skopje and Athens dates back to 1991, when Macedonia peacefully broke away from Yugoslavia, declaring its independence under the name Republic of Macedonia.

Greece had objected to the name Macedonia, fearing territorial claims on its eponymous northern region.

Because of Greek objections, Macedonia was admitted to the UN under a provisional name, the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.

Greece, an EU and NATO member, has also cited the dispute to veto Macedonia's bid to join the two organizations.

Can we rename ourselves "North Ukraine" and start a full scale invasion to finally unify with our long lost brothers?

what fucking cucks

no way

After almost three decades, one of the most intractable Balkan disputes has ended on the banks of a lake as Greece and Macedonia signed an accord formally heralding a new era of peace.

On a historic day for a region long soaked in the politics of animosity, the prime ministers of the neighbouring states declared that the bitter dispute over Macedonia’s name was finally over.

Once ratified, the pact will see the small Balkan nation being renamed the Republic of North Macedonia. “This is our own rendezvous with history,” the Greek prime minister, Alexis Tsipras, told officials gathered under a giant marquee pitched at the edge of Lake Prespa, where the borders of Greece, Macedonia and Albania meet.

“We are here to heal the wounds of time,” he insisted, adding that for too long the Balkans had suffered from “the poison of chauvinism and the divisions of nationalist hatred”.

The Macedonian prime minister, Zoran Zaev arrived at the ceremony by speedboat. He called on critics of the agreement, which was announced five days ago, “to step out of the past and look to the future”.

“Our peoples want peace … We will be partners and allies,” said Zaev, who must have the pact passed by parliament and endorsed by a referendum before it is accepted by Greece. “We are proud of today’s agreement … May we stay as forever united as we are on this day.”

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From the moment its neighbour proclaimed independence as the Republic of Macedonia following the collapse of Yugoslavia in 1991, Greece has believed its chosen name and symbols conveyed ill-disguised territorial claims against its own province of Macedonia.

Maps depicting the landlocked state’s borders extending to the strategic port city of Thessaloniki, Greek Macedonia’s capital, have helped stoke fears. So, too, has the appropriation of ancient Greek figures. The erection of a gargantuan statue of the warrior king Alexander the Great in Skopje’s central square fuelled further claims of cultural theft.

In 1994, as the confrontational rhetoric deepened, Athens imposed a trade embargo against its neighbour, saying the Slavic state’s policies posed “a real and present danger to Greece”.

But on Sunday all of that appeared to have been relegated to the past. Taking the podium after adding his own signature to the accord, Matthew Nimetz, the UN special envoy who has mediated negotiations since the early 1990s, spoke of the “political courage” required to arrive at this point. The EU foreign affairs chief Federica Mogherini and EU enlargement commissioner Johannes Hahn, who were present for the signing, spoke glowingly of the signing as a rare moment of success for Europe.

you would get btfo by nato ivan

DONT CHANGE THE FUCKING NAME

NO!

GODDAMIT
STOP
STOP
DO NOT CHANGE

DO NOT
DO NOT CHANGE

STOP

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sounds better than FYROM, to be desu

I am fine with this

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It's fun to see how many people write about "peace" and "conflict resolution". What happened is that Greece went apeshit and acting like a huge prick for 30 years until Macedonia couldn't take the damage it Greece was doing anymore and submitted to Greece's demand. It's really annoying that such a display of imperialism can happen over something so petty.

Fuck off Northern Denmark

Finally.

True. We were dicks. Delayed an entire country from progressing for 30 years. Makes me feel bad.

Ukraine isnt in nato.
Shill harder

greece aint entitled to jack

>giving up your entire identity and heritage for MUH EU MONIES

Fucking disgrace.

What would you know about heritage?

>identity and heritage

You tell me French Italian German Albanian mutt

Yeah you've just listed our heritage cool.
New worlders however have none

t. Northern France

> grug who stay have multiple heritage
> grug who move across ocean no have multiple heritage

I'm really confused. Why couldn't they just let Macedonia be called Macedonia? What economic or political significance does the fucking name of a country have?

The irony

There's a big important place in Greece called Macedonia. Then these people who are not Greek, made their own country, and called it Macedonia, and then they claimed Greek achievements for themselves

It's like if Canada wanted to call itself Washington, and they said that George Washington was not American, but Canadian

Macedonia means fruit salad in Spanish.

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Simple. They're LARPing. North Macedonians have statues of Alexander the Great and have previously used the Vergina Star. They are the original WE WIZ KANGZ

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>ancient macedonia
>neva moved 20km north
>
>

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Reminder that Greeks wanted Macedonia out of the name entirely. To them, this is still a humiliation and it's "Northern Macedonians" who came out on top.

Right now there are a fuckton of protests occurring on both sides. Compromise is something pretty much nobody wanted.

ebin :D

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Except the current country was part of Ancient Macedonia as well

is it mass or mack

makedonski in the native tongue

>not southern canada

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In Greek and Fyromian it's "mack", but in English, "Macedon", "Macedonia", etc. it's traditionally been "mass".

I love FYRONM

same here

A compound name with a geographic distinction has been Greece's aim since the 90s.

North Macedonia > FYROM

Greeks should rename to west turkey

This is a VERY autistic episode of world politics.
Now we just need Trump's opinion of this.

Fuck this cunt Earth and its daft inhabitants.

How are Slavs not the niggers of Europe

>WE WUZ ALEXANDER
>WE WUZ KHANS

I actually want to hear Kanye's take on this

lol

Greece should unironically be expelled from the eurozone and EU. Why they were allowed in the first place, I'll never know. They were fucking celebrating in nightclubs when they voted in the referendum against paying their debnts.

t. gr**k

>west turkey
They’re literally South Makedonya now though

>khans
Embarrassing. We had Kanasubigi.

only the extreme south

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Except the current country was part of Ancient Macedonia as well
That's not really a valid point, technically speaking, everything between southern France and India was part of ancient Macedonia at one point.

we wuz alexerders and shiittt

Fucking proud of my boys.

Can someone explain to me why that province of Yugoslavia was called Macedonia in the first place, and who the people there actually are? I want genuine information not a bunch of butthurt nationalistic memes.

God shits on Israel

Israel shits on America

America shits on Germany

Germany shits on Greece

Greece shits on Macedonia

Poetry.

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It occupies the territory of the old Roman province of Macedonia, and a small portion of the Ancient Macedonian state

They did not change the name yet. It requires a referendum.

so why is Greece mad about that?

retard, nobody seriously KHANS

and macedonians were brainwashed from without

our plan is copystrike them

West Turania reporting.

>The erection of a gargantuan statue of the warrior king Alexander the Great in Skopje’s central square fuelled further claims of cultural theft.

This utter self-flattery and conceit is what's wrong with Greeks. They honestly think they own the rights to large penises? They're not even Turkish to be saying that.

First they made them change the flag, now the name too. I wonder what they will make them change next.

All Macedonian academics will now have to profess the theory of ancient astronauts and hybrid DNA.

>ultra-newfags won't get this

Their ancestors used to rule the world under Alexander and now they have to listen to dumb Athenians, tragic story desu.

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>Greece thread
>some Greek posts you can count with one hand
>countless diaspora shitskins

every time

Both want to larp as ancient Macedonia. Macedonia can, if it wants a historical lineage, maybe claim one from the medieval Sclavinia of Macedonia, but definitely not from ancient Macedon. And Greeks are just autistic about larping.

what a dumb thing to cause a stink about fuck Greece and its people