Do the so called modern slavic 'macedonians' from the ex-yugoslav country laughingly called 'macedonia' really believe...

do the so called modern slavic 'macedonians' from the ex-yugoslav country laughingly called 'macedonia' really believe that they are macedonians?
can anyone from that so called country tell me what they teach them in school about their history and what do they tell them in the media about their history?
if i was born in that country i would be ashamed to claim the history of another ethnicity.
why do people from that slavic country still believe that they are 'macedonians'? dont they have internet access?

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Northen Macedonians*

More like monkeydonians

they definitely do not deserve that name

The whole problem arises from both sides distorting history. In my personal opinion the Macedonians can call themselves that, nothing wrong with it and I think the fact that they haven't been absorbed by their neighbors lends credibility to it. As far as I know the Macedonian identity dates back to the 19th century at a time where many national identities were being created.

Anyways when it comes to Alexander or the Ancient Macedonians I've seem many distortion of historical facts.

They wuz kangs

>why do people from that slavic country still believe that they are 'macedonians'? dont they have internet access?

As I understand it it was all a hoax perpeutated by Tito to undermine Bulgarian nationalism in Macedonia, and RONManians ate it up 100% and now forgot they used to be anything else. Maybe /ex-yu/ can correct me if I'm wrong.

They are greek. Unlike you.

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it is very simple
the people living in that country are slavs
the ancient macedonians were greek and the modern macedonians are greek there is nothing to discuss

you realize only autistic weirdos from eastern europe care about this right? no serious country cares about cyprus or macedonia.

great bait cyka

The Ancient Macedonians were not Greek as far as we know. They were not accepted as Greeks during the classical era or at the time of Alexander's conquest. We don't even know what type of language they spoke, it may have been a non-Greek language. There's not much to go on about the average person but they did have a ruling class that did adapt Greek as a language and Greek habits. However they also had non-Greek habits that outed them as non-Greeks such as the drinking of unmixed wine. It's not dissimilar from aritocracy adapting foreign customs and langues. The English nobility did it, the Russian nobility at one point spoke French and had French habits. When it comes t our sources the Macedonians are generally are seen as non-Greeks and outsiders. Their rulers claimed to be Greeks but these claims were sometimes rejected and very controversial.
If you want to read more you should read Eugene Borza's In the Shadow of Olympus. I believe Peter Green touches on it too.

he is albanian diaspora just ignore him lol, also has severe mental illness

>Monkeydonians are slavic
>implying there aren't just Turks speaking different language like modern Greeks.

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Macedonians are true Greeks
using slav language. Cypriots are arabs who speak Cypriot Greek or Turkish.

modern turks have greek slavic and arab blood
real turks came from mongolia

ching chong clean house suck dick 5 euro?

do you know what is pan-hellenism

Do modern day Cypriots actually believe they are ancient hellenes and not simply just Arabs that converted to orthodox Greco-Xhitanity?

Greeks are pure you pseudo russian

Cypriots became Arabs millennia before arabs invaded the Levant

are you a slavshit or shitskin?

Greeks*

Cypriots just like their distant cousins modern Greeks are not descended from the Hellenic fighters at Marathon, Salamis, Thermoplayea, Platae. That's my point shitskin.

You are just hellenized armenoid

Yes, I know what pan-hellinism is. And I'm glad you brought it up because one of the bigger advocators of it, Isokrates, says the following:


"I assert that it is incumbent upon you to work for the good of the Hellenes, to reign as king over the Macedonians, and to extend your power over the greatest possible number of the barbarians. For if you do these things, all men will be grateful to you: the Hellenes for your kindness to them; the Macedonians if you reign over them, not like a tyrant, but like a king; and the rest of the nations, if by your hands they are delivered from barbaric despotism and are brought under the protection of Hellas."

"He, on the other hand, held entirely aloof from Hellenic territory, and set his heart upon occupying the throne of Macedon. For he knew full well that the Hellenes were not accustomed to submit to the rule of one man, while the other races were incapable of ordering their lives without the control of some such power."

Now, what does this mean? Isokrates, a prominent figure in pan-hellenism, is stating that Philip II of Macedon is a Greek who sought to rule non-Greeks because Hellenes are not accustomed to be ruled by a single man. Of course Isokrates lines could be seen as trying to flatter Philip II to get him to stop attacking Greece and focus on the Persians instead, he's trying to make him feel like one of them. But it can be seen here that Isokrates does not consider the Macedonian subjects as Hellenes but he's willing to say their rulers are. OTOH you have Demosthenes who was rejecting any of that and trying to perused the Athenians to fight the Macedonian invaders tooth and nail.

In the end Philip II of Macedon and Alexander III of Macedon created a puppet state in Greece that was subject to their Macedonian overlords. In order to try to appease the pan-hellenic faction, among other things, they set their eyes towards Persia.

you are the shitskin here
they are not distinct cousins
Cypriots are Greeks

russia is full of armenoids
not Cyprus

>Greeks are pure

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The ethnicity of Macedonians is beside the point because Macedonia was in modern day Thessaloniki, not in Fyromania. Their clay used to be Moesia, so they should be LARPing as Moesians.

Hey there, shitskin. Cypriots and modern Greeks are not descended from the Hellenic fighters at Marathon, Salamis, Thermapolae, Platea, etc....

You brown animal, you have nothing at all to do with ancient Hellenes. Not now, not ever. Get that through you Arab skull you mutt.

thats not new news

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However this didn't stop the Greeks from staging two major revolts which ended with the enslavement and destruction of Thebes and the death of a Spartan king. To the death of Alexander the Great the Greeks revolted against their Macedonian overlords and started the Lamian War.

In his conquest of Persia, Alexander only had about 7,600 Greeks in his army with a similar number of Illyrians and Thracians who were there to fulfill their obligations to the Macedonian overlords. On the other hand the Persians had a much greater number of Greeks in their service who fought fiercely against the Macedonians. To this Arrian writes of the old racial hatred between the Greeks and the Macedonians.

And there's Alexander who switched his identity to suit his needs. Alexander at one point claimed to be a Persian, adapted many Persian habits and took the title of King of Kings. Alexander was so much of a Persiaboo that he started worrying his Macedonians.

cypriots are definitely not arab the island was hellenized during ancient times and even if the multiple conquerors that owned cyprus gave their part into forming modern cypriot culture the island remained greek and still remains till this day
if you ever come to cyprus you will understand that we are not arabs

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science doesnt care about your shitskin opinion

you dont write to a canadian

>Albanian

And Slav, and Armenian, and Turk, and Arab, and Ethiopian, and.....

Even Greek islanders are not descended from the ancients of the classical era. Southern Italians neither are descended from ancient Hellenic peoples.

He is a black latino

>if i was born in that country i would be ashamed to claim the history of another ethnicity.
They are Balkan slavic squatters with no history or culture or traditions so it's not really that surprising. Not even their own fucking language. LOL.

You're all the same shit in the balkans
The only differance is language you speak.

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black shitskin

>says the trash the turks forgot when they pulled out of the balkans

Sicilians are GREEK.

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Game over you squatting human filth

>mainland greeks are genetically closest to albanians

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Fucking G*rm

You don't even try.

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Nope, Cypriots look like Arabs down to everything except Islam. Google images proves it, and back in middle-school there was a Cypriot kid who was an asshole and he looked Arab. I always thought you were brown.

because you are poor and slavic

Lovely thread

>Game over
that's what the police will say when they take you to your natural home - prison

you deserved the bullying

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Rude

And you are dumb and brown.

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Russians are alright, only subhumans like FYROMites sully their linguistic group's name.

Still larping roach? No I wasn't bullied, it was more of shitflinging each other with insults. Back then I wasn't really racially aware as I'm now but I would have made the brown fucker cry whilst I denied him his pseudo-Hellenism.

during ancient times the macedonian kingdom was consisted of tribes that were illyrian and thracian which was the reason why central greeks did consider them as barbarians.
however alexander the great proved that his ethnicity was greek by explaining to the central greeks that macedonians came from argos. thus being able to compete in the olympics where only greeks were allowed to compete.
all city states had disputes and disagreements and often fought with each other it is not weird that the central greeks hated macedonia just like they hated each other. this is no argument that ancient macedonia was not greek.

intelligent and pale
while you are still poor and slavic

no they are not

the people of Cyprus became Greek thousands of years ago
sometimes this place is weird

>there was a Cypriot kid who was an asshole and he looked Arab
oh my god did he bully you?
some of us have a permanent sun tan because of the hot sun, we are definitely not arab we hate muslims you should come to cyprus to see for your self

>became Greek
Good thing you realize that.

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I hope you realize that Dorians (citizens of the Greek city states), Illyrians, Thracians, Dacians, etc... are all northern conquerors that came into the Balkans around 1100 BC and enslaved the locals right?

Once again, modern Greeks are not descended from the Hellenic fighters of Platea, Chromona, Salamis, Marathon etc...It's ridiculous that you larpers continue with this fantasy. It's equivalent to modern Assyrian people saying that they were descended from the ancient Assyrians, or negroe Americans descended from western Africans claiming Egypt. Literally WE WUZ.

>I would have made the brown fucker cry whilst I denied him his pseudo-Hellenism.
you really do sound like a heavy autismo
i bet you had a tough up-bringing

Saying the Macedonians weren't Greek is like saying the Americans weren't American but English, and the Prussians not German but Prussian.

The Macedonians and Alexander are responsible for unity among the Hellenic peoples and a common Greek language which the modern language derives from. Greekdom and its history isn't just the early city-states, in fact it has far less to do with those city-states than Alexander's empire (who ushered in the Hellenistic period throughout the Mediterranean and Asia, mind you) and the Byzantine Empire even if Greeks like to gloat about their ancient history.

i forgot that you post the same trash even though people prove you wrong
i guess you really are a troll
posting useless trash and misinofrmation all the day
you russians are such subhumans

Just stop replying to that mentally ill latino, he had a rough upbringing

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Based Iki

Fuck non-greek subhumans

*click*

Yep this is going into my cringe compilation.

is your complication full of selfies you disgusting shitskin?

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you clearly do not know what you are talking about you must be a turk immigrant and i bet that cypriot kid humiliated your ass in school thus the hatred
modern greeks have ancient greek dna look it up

Greeks are still negro-admixed subhumans tho, you can't change it.

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cypriot kid took his lunch money now he hates the whole nation

hitler called slavs subhumans
not Greeks

>Now, ancient DNA suggests that living Greeks are indeed the descendants of Mycenaeans, with only a small proportion of DNA from later migrations to Greece.

Nigger it says in your source that you are not descended from the Dorians. You are not even descended from the Mycenaeans because they were northern conquerors as well that ruled over a slave population. You are at best descended from the aboriginals and that DNA was given to you by Albanian rape hordes.

KYS shitskin

True that. Some of them realize it though.

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Hitler is a subhuman by his own difinition.
He also liked albos, so what?

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Dorians are the "later migrations to Greece"

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what have I done and I was born as black . . :(

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you are subhumans by all definitions

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They aren't. Your source either way is shit just proving how your source disagrees with you shitskin.

German autism

t. Subhuman
You can't even imitate iki properly
Imposter shitskin.

>fuck science and logic

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albanian shitskin subhuman diaspora

>pop science is real science and logic

everyone in your family line was a subhuman

he's obviously Greel diaspora or using a proxy, retarded subhuman Ch*m

And you was fucked by everyone in that family.

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Macedonia is Albanian

>δεν ξέρει τον Ίkι
νεόπουστας

do the so called cypriot 'greeks' from the middle eastern country called Cyprus really believe that they are Greeks?

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i should check if i have aids then

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could I ask you where do you find all these nice photos, frend?

O polwnos eisai?

i don't see thousands of hungry children in Macedonia.

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Idk if Albanians really even want that shithole. I think Greece can have it? But then again it would be even a bigger drain for you.

Because they "become greeks". Just like albanians, jews and armenians. Along with Lebanese.

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Kraut subhuman

Albanian men fuck your women

lebanese shitskin or albanian kosovo subhuman

im not a Jow Forums meme scientist
but someone wrote that there are base populations so you can see how far away others are from them

όχι, πως σου ήρθε αυτό;

I am Ethiopian