>Israeli settlements in the West Bank
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>Israeli settlements in the West Bank
YEAH ANNEX'EM
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I understand that israelis want lebensraum in West Bank but I always wondered what are they gonna do to the Palestinians in there?
that's so fucked up
We will only annex Area C, which is where all the settlements are located. The result is giving citizenship to about 100,000 Palestinians.
Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.
there will be another made up war where they will annex all of palestine and throw out palestinians to jordan, mark my words
isn't the problem with these annexations that there would then be more "Palestinians" within Israel than pro-Israel Jews, so they could change the state from within through voting?
No, because Israel will annex only specific areas where the number of Palestinians is relatively low.
>gives citizenship and voting rights to 6 gorillion pallies
>Arabs become majority
>middle east's only democracy democratically voted to kill all Jews
Yes please do it
Wont work, South Africa tried the same thing. If you essentially cut off all hope of a viable Palestinian state and create a bunch of encircled Palestinian cantons (which is what already exists de facto but you'll make it de jure) then you'll have killed all hopes of 2-state solution and the world will sooner or later force you to give voting rights to the Palestinian "bantustans". It's exactly what happened in South Africa
yeah then it could work
desu when I hear of the problem again and again I sometimes think Jews should've simply expelled all Muslims when they had the chance, wouldn've been cruel but it worked in Eastern Europe, there are no border disputes anymore
t. Heartless Jew
It's a shame hitler didn't wipe you all out
Not necessarily. The original plan from 1970 looked like this. The original plan included returning the areas in green to Jordan. (A Palestinian country wasn't a thing back then).
I'm Catholic
Are you Lebanese?
If the Jews are so smart, why didn't they trick the natives into giving away their land like us?
Yes, this is why Israel doesn't outright annex the west bank.
But i think in the long run, annexing or not, Israel face a demographic problem : they will have more muslims than jew, and will either become a opened segregated country (where muslims are second-class citizen) or become a muslim country.
Fuck off, you're a fake catholic and a traitor to Catholicism. No true catholic would support Zionism you're a heretic if you do
You're a larping kike
cringe
King Hussein actually offered to take it back but Israel refused
>this is unironically the type of cuck that votes AfD
#TrägtDerKippa
It seems the PLO refused it as well, and also other Arab states.
It can actually work nowadays, in a way, if you combine it with the Allon Plan.
Not him, but you are.
>Mistreats Christians.
you can insult me all you want but it'd be better to make actual arguments if you want to convince anybody
also I much rather have Jews here than Muslim fanatics that try to undermine our state
He's right tho. Jews should convert or be burned at the stake
I think the first location we should annex is Kiryat Luza.
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They are Samaritans and not Arabs.
There are also Samaritans in Israel in the city of Holon.
We can have a referendum in both Holon and Kiryat Luza on this matter.
Enjoy your Jews if you love them so much one day you'll join them where you belong. And I don't need to convince you of anything, I'm not here to convince evil.
Jews were some of our best scientists and contributed to our society, they integrated despite keeping their religion until we murdered them and most flew
Muslims for the most part leech off our welfare, commit crimes and preach hatred for everything German
go fuck yourself, go back to the Muslim country you came from
The PLO refused it because they want all of historic Palestine not just the West Bank. The 1967 lines are a meme that only westerners obsess about. Both Jews and Arabs won't settle for anything but the whole thing. It makes sense; Haifa and Jaffa are just as historically Arab as Ramallah or Gaza.
The deal won't happen because the Israeli right wing won't ever give up Judea and Samaria it would be political suicide. The Palestinians aren't rushing to make a deal because the demographic trends are on their side, and world opinion is gradually shifting towards recognising Palestine and more and more western countries are moving towards recognise it.
>flew
fled
>The PLO refused it because they want all of historic Palestine not just the West Bank
Finally you say something true !
>The Palestinians aren't rushing to make a deal because the demographic trends are on their side,
A myth.
>and world opinion is gradually shifting towards recognising Palestine and more and more western countries are moving towards recognise it.
Nah, I don't think so.
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It's not a secret. Every Arab openly admits it.
We're not like Jews; we don't play games and we don't hide what we mean. When we believe something, we openly say it instead of hiding it and acting deceitful and lying.
It's not a secret, but the Westerners refuse to believe it. They think the Arabs will settle in a country in the WB and GS.
Oh? You're an Arab? Where are you from?
Well just this year for the first time since 1948 the population of west bank+gaza equals that of the Jews in Israel.
Arab Israelis are currently ~25% and increasing.
And countries like U.K. and France are openly debating recognising Palestine for the first time ever. These aren't Sweden, these are major western countries. As the Muslim population in those countries grows, the politicians will increasingly be more pro-Palestine to win over votes. Notice how aside from a few tiny countries, no major European country followed trumps recognition of Jerusalem. In fact Germany, the second most pro-Israel country in Europe after the U.K., strongly condemned it.
As I said, those countries have growing Muslim populations and their leftist parties are anti-Israel
Parents from Iraq but born here. You? (As in where you're grandparents are from)?
The number of Israeli Arabs is not 25%, it's more like 20% or 21%.The fertility rate of Jews and Arabs in Israel is equal now. This is against all predictions. There were actually prediction in Israel during the 80's that the country will have an Arab majority in the year of 2000.
The number of Arabs in the GS and WB is less relevant, as Israel has no intention annex the GS or annex the WB as a whole. So at the bottom line there is a firm Jewish majority inside territories Israel is the sovereign of.
I cannot say much about the politics in Europe but I am not sure a growing Muslim majority will guarantee a support for the Palestinians, but I guess these countries will never be pro-Israeli, but we're used to that.
>Arab Israelis are currently ~25% and increasing.
um, no sweetie, see pic related and more importantly, notice the trend. Also aras israelis are ~20% if anything
> the population of west bank+gaza equals that of the Jews in Israel.
No one care how many arabs live in Gaza, it could be 6 gorillion and nobody will bat an eye, and same goes for areas A and B
I am mixed. From my mother side we live here for 6 generations. I mean, my grandmother was born here, and also her grandmother. But my mother's great-grandfather came from Greece. From my father's side his father is from Transylvania and his mother also born here. His mother's parents are from Ukraine, I think.
This is your land, annex em. No one cares about muslims anyway.
That's sick
Trains and camps.
Why?
Just leave em alone dude.
>There were actually prediction in Israel during the 80's that the country will have an Arab majority in the year of 2000
To be fair, those prediction didn't take into account the fall of Soviet Russia, and the influx of russian jews to israel as a result
Hmm.. yeah, right.
But right now the fertility rates are equal anyway ..
If you annex area c the arab areas will turn into new Gaza strips surrounded by israel on all sides, basically open air prisons.
Also our situation isn't comparable sahrawis have citizenship and get everything provided for them by us we didn't kick them out
>Jews were some of our best scientists and contributed to our society, they integrated despite
Ah yes thats why kept themselves in locked communities and actively worked against Germany taking it so far to ignite a civil war and bringing us the godless garbage that was Weimar.
Fuck off Shlomo
That truly depends which parts will be annexed. I know there is a strong will by Israel to have presence in the Jordan Valley Rift.
I know, whats funny is that I learned this stuff at university, our Prof openly said that Jews were disproportianlly represented among Communists
>13 Jews taking over Germany
bullshit, and knowing how Jow Forums operates that pic is likely bullshit too
yet 100000 Jews fought for Germany in WW1, Einstein said his last words in German despite what we did to his kin, and you have Jews like Haber who were great patriots and did great help to the German army in WW1: en.wikipedia.org
really goes to show how retarded stormfags are when they side with Islamists over their loony antisemitism
>bullshit, and knowing how Jow Forums operates that pic is likely bullshit too
Nope majority of Lefty loonies were Jews same with USSR were they killed off millions people and actively persecuted Christians.
And amazing how a few "good Jews" somehow excuse hundreds of Years of active plotting against their host society.
Read Culture of Critique, great Book.
>really goes to show how retarded stormfags are when they side with Islamists over their loony antisemitis
If everyone calls you an asshole over the course of 2000 years than maybe you're an asshole. Christians were always anti-judaistic while Muslims worked with Jews together especially in Islamic Spain
Ah yes it was Arabs who made Britain and France and the world go to war against America. It was Arabs that flattened the ancient city of Dresden killing 500,000 innocent Germans. It was Arabs that occupied Prussia, Posen, Pomerania and Silesia expelling millions of Germans, it was Arabs who raped every woman between Konigsberg and Potsdam. Yes good goy it's the Arabs that hate Germany. All those Jews who were behind Bolshevism and who bankrolled Churchill to destroy Germany were brave German patriots. It was Arabs who instigated the 1919 Communist uprisings in Germany. It was Arabs who instituted cultural Marxism. It's Arabs that encourage homosexuality, abortion, euthanasia, gay marriage.
Kys. Next year you'll be hating Chinese or Vietnamese for whatever reason. Anything to keep you from looking at the true enemy.
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really makes you think huh
no but it wasn't da joos either
now go stab somebody and then cry oppression or something
As if 100000 more arabs will make a difference...
i wish but even the jordanians dont want them
>If everyone calls you an asshole over the course of 2000 years than maybe you're an asshole.
No, it means the other side is obsessed.
Stfu iraqi subhuman
>many Jews either emigrated from the Russian Empire or joined radical parties, such as the Jewish Bund, the Bolsheviks,[5] the Socialist Revolutionary Party,[6] and the Menshevi
>i cant believe the jews didnt give up part of their capital city , why would they do this?
hmm
That will NEVER happen because once there are no Arabs the regime won't be able to do everything it wants and yield power on the poeople using fear. Theey want to have constant low volume "threat" instead.
Yeah and who told you to open your doors and let in millions of migrants? Is it all the Arabs who control your banks and foreign policy and universities that encourage open borders? The only reason there's all those stabbing and rapes is cause someone has been encouraging you to have open borders.
Oh and who created the refugee crises? Who intervened to support terrorists in Syria and Libya? Who pushed for the invasion of Iraq or the overthrow of Assad and Gaddafi who had Islamists under control? Hmmm are these questions antisemitic?
Who am I kidding you know the answers you're just a kike shill so you'll keep repeating that lie about Jews dying for Germany in ww1.
Dumb kike. Shit like this is why no one feels sorry for you when you retards commit cultural suicide. Have fun. As long as it means you can keep defending your beloved Jews you won't care.
really surprising when the other parties slaughtered Jews by the tens of thousands right?
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>*Bibi slowly whispers in the germans ears*
>"Take immigrants"
>"YES DADDY WE WILL DO EVERYTHING YOU SAY"
Is this the goy logic?
>Yeah and who told you to open your doors and let in millions of migrants?
our own retarded politicians, not DA JOOS
>Oh and who created the refugee crises?
proxy wars in MENA + poor Muslims wanting a better life in Germany, not DA JOOS
>Who intervened to support terrorists in Syria and Libya? Who pushed for the invasion of Iraq or the overthrow of Assad and Gaddafi who had Islamists under control?
the US and France/UK, not Israel (unless Hezbollah/Iran put up missiles at their border)
and I'm tired of arguing you, people like you will never accept their own failures, you'll always screech and point at somebody else
pathetic really
First he argued that the massive presence of Muslims in Europe will turn Europe pro-Palestinian and then he is switching to blaming the Jews that they brought the Muslims in.
That's Palestine.
Jews actually used the name Palestine. It is פלשתינה. Read as Palestina.
Both are true. Jews primarily act with the destruction of goyim in mind rather than their own preservation.
Please don't hurt Palestine people.
You Israeli, already know how much their dignities got lost.
Please stop invasion, I'm begging you.
I don't want to hurt them. I want to annex the settlements and strategic areas. This will even lead to granting Israeli citizenship to some Palestinians.
I want to hurt sahrawis, I want them genocided if I'm being honest.
Why are Middle Eastern democracies such contentious issues?
I'm not interested in what you purpose, but seriously care and respect Palestine people.
I empathy weak people than oppressors.
Could you fight against MBT with stone?
Arabs are already treated as second class citizens, the fuck are you talking about? Israel even pisses on Arab Jews because they “look like a fuckin terrorist”
They ain't that weak, they got the entire Muslim World backing them up and they get funds from all over the world.
Hamas in Gaza is one of the strongest terror organizations in the world.
>Arab Jews
since when it's an actual thing?
>the strongest terror organizations in the world.
They expell them before they take the land. Israel can rely on the zionist "settlers" to go into the neighbourhoods in the west bank and force the people who live there out. Then they incorporate the land where mostly israelis live by that point and repeat the process over and over. Some palestinians might come in, but they are a marginal group that just adds a small number to the token arab minority in Israel that lets them shrug off accusations of colonialism and institutional racism. They don't have to deal with taking in the millions of palestinian refugees, those they just force out into Syria, Jordan and Egypt.
Is that the hospital they fired from?
> Israel can rely on the zionist "settlers" to go into the neighbourhoods in the west bank and force the people who live there out.
It seems like this guy doesn't even know where the settlements are located.
The PLO, PA and even Hamas all support a two state solution. That is not the same as only wanting the west bank and gaza.
Neither PLO or Hamas supports the two-states solution, where did you get it from?
>Western Sahara conflict
That is also sick, retard
Western sahara is Moroccan though
media can be easily manipulated if you really wanna know whats going on here than you need to come here , don't worry its perfectly safe and you will get to see first hand how "crowded" is gaza like the media likes to report.
Here is a picture of a gazan arcade , i don't recall anyone that lives in a gutter and can afford an arcade.
All palestinian lies , they are using their own "misfortune" as a tool of manipulation and are making you think that we are oppressive when in reality there is no gain for us to keep the palestinians here and if we wanted to kill them all we would've done it 70 years ago and wouldn't have to take shit from the rest of the world.
>Palestine shot first cuz IDF says so.
please, I thought Israeli are more wise people.
I can post thousand tons of pics related your crime if you need.
Please free them, leave them alone.
What would be the endgame though? Ok, you say they want to destroy gentiles for their own profit, but even if you believed that jews ran everything and are so deceitfully smart, wouldn't it be more logical for them to keep the system running instead of destroying it, ensuring mutual benefit on the long run?
Irrelevant. They fire from inside hospitals. Want another evidence?
It's like John Kerry said, if there is only one state in Palestine that includes all the people who live there, it can either be Jewish or Democratic. The politicians in Israel are completely focused on avoiding compromising the jewish majority within their borders that was established through violence and is maintained through violence.
their endgame is to build the third temple and fill it with all the gold stolen from goyim, so that their messiah will come and slaughter the nations of the earth and make the rest the slaves of the jews.
It's not. Give it back!
I'd rather you focus on trying to prove your claim that Hamas and PLO accepts Israel's existence and agree to let it stay.
>One State
Imagine someone suggesting to make Azerbaijan and Armenia into one state in order to solve their conflict.
Ridiculous.