This is Israel's Minister of Defense

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I see your Liberman and I raise you one Barak.

>kibbutznik
>Stanford graduate
>Sayeret Matkal commando and officer
>joint highest decorated soldier in the IDF
>ex-PM
>ex-Minister of Defense
>looks friendly

How can other politicians even compete?

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People will never forget him that he left Lebanon overnight, abandoning SLA behind and enabling Hezbollah's rise to power.

Yes, but that war was becoming increasingly unwinnable (without enormous casualties anyway). You have to know when to retreat and live to fight another day.

Also, wasn't Lebanon mainly Olmert's fault?

There wasn't much of a war. We held the Security Zone along with our SLA allies and Hezbollah was conducting a guerrilla fight. There were casualties indeed, but not on sheer numbers. All in all, voices rose in an Israeli society for a withdrawal and protecting ourselves from within our territory. So Barak decided to pull out, but it was done with quick haste and basically the SLA were abandoned and were overrun by Hezbollah in a few days and they all escaped to Israel.

Olmert is Lebanon War II, in 2006.
The Security Zone was held between 1982 (or 1985?) to 2000, when Barak decided to pull out.

Oh okay, I got my timeline confused there. Isn't the retreat you're talking about the one showed in pic-related?

I can understand people being unhappy with letting the SLA die and giving up clay (even if it's a rational decision) but Hezbollah's rise is arguably more linked to how much money/support it got from Iran than your retreat?

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Lieberman sucks, seriously.

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Yes that movie is about that (I did not see it though).

Well, it's quite a conundrum. If Israel were to stay in the Security Zone then it would have lost more soldiers but Hezbollah would not had the ability to rise to power.

She's an utter catastrophe.

Good movie.

To be honest with you it seems like an issue that is better solved diplomatically/politically/clandestinely by intervening in Lebanon behind the scenes, rather than military action. Lebanon is a huge fucking fuck-up of a country and unless that's solved Hezbollah will always have a footing there.

Yeah, well, it is deeply linked to Syria. So things are hot right now. I am not sure how things will turn out though. If we will have another war with Hezbollah (and Iran) it would be very destructive.