Why the fuck are the people in these countries so smug and nationalistic and always LARPing as "defenders of white...

Inferiority complex.

>Ivan talking about an inferiority complex

I'm a polacken and I'm smart

Hungary was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire and has had an inferiority complex ever since then and the other countries were founded before that but couldn't last more than twenty years without having bits and pieces taken from them.
What I'm saying is that most of those places (except for poland) had a much more fluid concept of nationality and that they're trying to compensate now that the political scene is much stabler

What’s wrong you dumb spic? Were you planning on moving there and rape white women or something?

Inferiority complex. I doubt there are many people from there that actually think they live in decent countries. They can find some solace in any problems that the developed world is facing.

The real question is, why americans praise poles, the scum of the earth, and call them "based"?

nationality wasn't even practically invented until the 19th century. Austria-Hungary was basically Hungary+others for 900 years before the 19th century.
Also, look at who's talking about inferiority complex when your entire nation is a forced unification of people(since the 19th century) who don't even like each other, but managed to spawn fascism just so people would take you seriously as a country.

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>I'll give you slovakia maybe
Oh no, you should definitely give him that, kek. Slovakia is an artificial country made up by Western powers. You alone never would've had the strength - or the balls - to earn your freedom.

yes now fuck off and support me in this discussion

the concept of italy and italic people is about as old as that of europe, we lacked a political power strong enough to keep the country from being colonized by other european powers for the past millennium because our peninsula was actually useful for commerce and war,unlike yours which even with modern housing and heating is barely fit for humans to live in.
Also you've posted like five times in ten minutes, are you perchance a little butthurt slav who had to leave his paradisiac commie shithole for free moneis?

You have my support babe.

Italy is a failed nation compared to Western Euros. Always on the edge of complete and total economic collapse. Led by corrupt politicians making the worst decisions, while La Cosa Nostra pulls the strings from the back.
The entire southern half of your country is fucking Africa tier. You have some nerve talking about a "unification hype" when most Northern Italians would fucking nuke Sicily and everything below Rome in a heartbeat.

>nationality wasn't even practically invented until the 19th century
ok now you're just making stuff up.
>Also, look at who's talking about inferiority complex when your entire nation is a forced unification of people
italians like to shit on each other because the different powers which colonized the peninsula throughout the years influenced the people in different ways, but if you ask a Piedmontese if he'd like to leave italy to rejoin France he'll laugh in your face. Ever since the popularization of standard italian and the general homogenization of culture in the 1960s people have been feeling a stronger sense of brotherhood, we just need some 50 more years to meld a bit more.

Success breeds jelousy...

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>Italy is a failed nation compared to Western Euros
It depends on what you compare it to.

Westerners vs easterners in this thread.. Two struggling sides, freedom and slavery, peace and war. Progress against reactionism, the past world, and we wuz kangz.

>if it wasn't for the hundreds of billions of EU gibs pouring into their countries

the money for EU is equal to 3% of polish GDP
but it's a good start to repay for destroying Poland during world war 2

y-yeah thanks for your money germany what would we do without you

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>Italy is a failed nation compared to Western Euros
Yeah that's why we're a G7 nation with the second best healthcare system in the world and third highest life expectancy according to the WHO.
Italy was in the top five countries per GDP in the 90s (and is still in the top 10) until the first half of the 00s, most economists agree in saying that the decline in the economy is mostly due to two factors:
-the entering of China in the WTO, which weakened our economy which was mostly based on small manifacturing at low prices
-the adoption of the euro (a much stronger currency) which made said products less convenient for buyers and didn't allow for controlled inflation in times of need
> Always on the edge of complete and total economic collapse
you seriously need to pick up an economics book, just because we have a high percentage of public debt to gdp ratio it doesn't mean that we aren't a stable nation (although from a political standpoint we are, ill give you that), no one in their right mind believes italy will default in the long term
>Led by corrupt politicians making the worst decisions
you are a literal dictatorship i don't think you're in the position to talk about others
> You have some nerve talking about a "unification hype" when most Northern Italians would fucking nuke Sicily and everything below Rome in a heartbeat.
you should be able to discern what people actually think from what they write on Jow Forums m8, the whole country isn't Jow Forums

uheheh vee4

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uuuuuh veee4 strongg, we got telephones in village now, we burn gays with kerosene instead of wood now, we first worldd

>he doesn't know what the Spring of People's was in 1848
You never opened a history book, have you?

>It depends on what you compare it to.
Germany, Switzerland, Austria, France, England, for starters?

>Yeah that's why we're a G7 nation with the second best healthcare system in the world and third highest life expectancy according to the WHO.
So what. The same (better actually) can be said for Asspain or Greece and one of them is fucking broke, and both have unemployment through the roof. The reason your life expectancy is high because of your med diet, healthy social networks able to provide support when needed, and because people prefer a lazy, comfy life that clashes starkly with the depressed, highly strung society in the north.
>-the entering of China in the WTO, which weakened our economy which was mostly based on small manifacturing at low prices
>-the adoption of the euro (a much stronger currency) which made said products less convenient for buyers and didn't allow for controlled inflation in times of need
In other words, Italian economy isn't flexible nor competitive enough to survive in the 21th century.
>you are a literal dictatorship
No. We are heading that way, but we aren't there yet.

They're poor and uneducated. That's what these people do.

muh duhgenewacy fuck yurop fuck russia Poland STRONK
t. Pole living in the UK
btw still waiting for 1 trillion gibs from germoney

>Germany, Switzerland, Austria, France, England, for starters?
I mean according what kinda indexes?
>but we aren't there yet
Yes, it's not Russia 2.0 yet

hummmm

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>You never opened a history book, have you?
and you need to work on your reading comprehension, the fact that there was an enormous rise in nationalism and clustering of cultures doesn't mean that people didn't know what a country was before, you are as dumb as you are poor
>So what. The same (better actually) can be said for Asspain or Greece
No it can't, they rank 7th and 14th respectively (just for the laughs i looked up Hungary and you're 66th), we live longer because we have better diets, better lifestyles, less exposure to harmful carcinogens, stabler lives, better schools, better cars, better houses,better and cleaner industries, less alcoholism, less drug abuse, less violent crimes, less poverty and i could go on for hours if i wanted
>In other words, Italian economy isn't flexible nor competitive enough to survive in the 21th century.
or maybe major economies can be more subject to shifts in the global markets than an irrelevant shithole. And it's not like we went Venezuela tier or anything, we just slowed our growth for some 10 years, people aren't starving in the streets while ridden with disease, the lower middle class just has some trouble paying the bills, big deal
>No. We are heading that way, but we aren't there yet.
well that just makes it a ton better then, wait five years or so and after censoring newspapers you'll also get a China-style internet, at least we wont see your posts anymore tho

Poles can be annoying on int and hungarians can be mean, but v4 countries are very nice in real life. Pay them a visit.

>Why the fuck are the people in these countries so smug and nationalistic and always LARPing as "defenders of white EVROPA against cultural marxist jews and commies"?
no one here does this except a few retards on facebook. Only mutts go on about us being based when in reality we arent and we actually are liberal and have lots of foreginers

I've seen Poles doing this quite a bit. Everytime there's a discussion between Western-Euro's and Poles they will always resort to the "whiter than you" and "enjoy your muslims" argument, especially when Germany is involved.

yeah i refer mostly to poles about this they are retarded beyond belief

UH OH UOH Poles and Hungarians are the problem. Not the fuckface Arabs blowing up shit and driving into people. Fucking axe those fucks. I will axe any fucking Ahmad any day of the year, fuck those fucks. Fucking shove an axe to their face.

>Why the fuck are the people in these countries so smug and nationalistic and always LARPing as "defenders of white EVROPA against cultural marxist jews and commies"?
because they have little influence in real politics and economy, so they have to dive into discussions about history and culture

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calm down little brother

god these pictures are so hot

>tfw not schizophrenic qt3.14 grill who can sexually assault another women and get away with it due to societal notions that women cannot rape

>and uneducated
nonsense. Poland has one of the highest percent of educated people in the EU

t. Martian

>unkown

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Either you are just stupid as hell or you are just mexican.

Poland was already far richer than Ukraine before accession to EU. EU actually did not boost our growth in any way, what's more it reduced it.

That's rational argument. What's a point of having a country when you are going to be a minority in it. It's better to dismantle it at this point.

>EU actually did not boost our growth in any way
it did boost our growth Pszemek, because being in the EU makes you more credible in the eyes of investors

Kill yourself, please.

Because we are the lesser scum of the earth than you, also swedes were never praised by americans even after your mena embracement.

Exhibit A

Yeah by 1% total from 2004-2016, go figure.

Geez, what would happen without it.

Actually I think that joining EU was a terrible idea, but I don't want to leave the EU, it's too late and damages had been done.

>Poland was already far richer than Ukraine before accession to EU
being richer than a country where the average income is $140 isn't saying much m8.
I hope you don't really believe that you didn't benefit from all the free money and credibility you got and you're just saying it for the sake of argument because if you do you're a special kind of retarded, like the kind that needs 24/7 supervision (and ironically enough that support would come from the EU)

Retard.

It's not too late to leave and form Międzymorze.

Non-country American equivalent of Belgium speaks.

Enjoy your Turdeau dismantling your freedom of speech.

i must say, that was an extremely compelling argument, you really changed may view there, you shouldn't waste your time here, you should look for a career in politics or psychology m8, you could change the world with that eloquence

>being richer than a country where the average income is $140 isn't saying much m8

another Jow Forums retard. Poland and Ukraine were on the same economic level (gdp per capita) in 1990. Ukraine as a whole had even 30% bigger GDP than Poland. Now it's unthinkable.

>I hope you don't really believe that you didn't benefit from all the free money and credibility you got and you're just saying it for the sake of argument because if you do you're a special kind of retarded

Money was flowing in one direction and was outfowing in an another. It's really ignorant to say that those money were "given" in some way, they were realized for a some project mainly benefiting western companies that were expoiting us.

Second problem is massive emigration which decimated our potential of GDP growth that would never take place if not EU freedom of movement.

Imagine a country that finances and grows a worker, gives him everything financed from taxpayers like school, healthcare and free university education to go and build economy and pay taxes in other country

But only retards not thinking any futher will think that Poland only benefited from this, because low-IQ people only see things on the surface.

Definitely too late, the damages like emigration is not reparable, especially for a dying country with demographic problems. EU was nail in our coffin and now we're on a temporary high but it will end sooner than expected.

>an irrelevant commie shithole who just got introduced to the big boys' club giving G7 nations lessons on democracy and free speech
When I see countries like yours jumping in these kinds of conversations i always feel like you don't understand your place in the world.
All the buzzwords and arguments you throw around come from discussions we have between ourselves, you can criticize other governments when you are on their same level or above them.
When we talk with each other it's like banter between bachelors mocking each other's apartments, saying how the view is better from the 140th floor instead of the 130th, while in this metaphor you're the mentally impaired janitor living in the basement, inside the elevator shaft.
There's probably people in your parents' generation who didn't have running water growing up, you're in no place to feel superior to anyone

>lessons on democracy and free speech
user, but you don't have a democracy, nor a free speech

In the West you have many newspapers, but they all are saying the same. You don't have a democracy, because courts can interpret the law and force catholic organizations to close because they don't provide services to somebody

I agree with your post on polish megalomania, but you too have a bad impression of your own situation

Yeah, but Italy isn't 1st world so I'm not going to treat you like a better person because you are not.

Your people are literally invading europe incuding my country because your country is a shithole and even more nigger infested than germany or france because all those migrants comming from the mediterainian (literally only migrants in italy after albanians and romanian gypsies) and your now blaming more successful countries who recently escaped out of total poverty your failure, your government corruption and your inability to reform and innovate.

No, you simply do not expect such a talk for me because you aren't person worth it.

>Your people are literally invading europe incuding my country
Uhhh. Like almost 1 million Poles who are in Britain?

In what world are you living?

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Jow Forums and it's people literally makes me want to facepalm 1000 times from cringe. You are so stupid... did you ever fucking read my statement where I DENIED that Poles were emigrating and that emigration was bad??

and yet even the Ukraine is still a much nicer place to live than Mexico.

Poland is the only thing keeping half of Europe together.
youtube.com/watch?v=nsNfpEPTZjI

Don't believe what Lithuania says, Estonia has always been on the Polish side.

Oh what a funny funky may may, now that's 100% true.

>Poland is the only thing keeping half of Europe together.

Nope Poland isn't keeping anything nor plays any role, we're just minding our own business and do not interfere.

I wanted to make you realize that you're exaggerating things and distorting reality

Italy is in G7

It has more innovations than Poland and is more successful than Poland

Italians don't invade Poland, it's the other way around

You must have been living in a fucking cave if you think what you're saying is the reality

It's really not.

it is 100% true withouth EU gibs hungary would already be in deep economic decline

Have you ever been there?

b-but muh huwh*te ethnostate :(

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>and yet even the Ukraine is still a much nicer place to live than Mexico.
I really hope you're joking.

I find this funny. I like you user.
>Here’s a long post explaining why I’m not Europe’s cuck

fuck didnt mean to reply with
its really in a bad shape to say the least and is cheap even by Hungarian standards and that says a lot also lots of corruption
t.was in the Hungarian inhabited area known as Kárpátalja

>Italy is in G7
So is the shithole of India, but there is no Norway on Switzerland in it.

>It has more innovations than Poland and is more successful than Poland
wrong Italy has no innovation, nor it is succesful. Had an extremely low gdp growth for last 30 years.

>Italians don't invade Poland, it's the other way around
They do, either you live in Bytom or some fucking shithole or you don't see a streets of a proper big city where you hear Italian quite often.

>You must have been living in a fucking cave if you think what you're saying is the reality
That's really a description of you, but instead of cave I would use bytom.

Mexico's government is quite literally ran by the drug cartel. The only significance that Mexico has is being the southern border to the United States, linking South America and the drugs made there to one of single largest drug market in the entire world. It has little else going for it.

Ukraine's biggest problem is tensions with Russia. The government corruption in Ukraine pales in comparison to Mexico.

You have mexican flag but you are not from mexico

>So is the shithole of India
again, you're making false equivalence

>wrong Italy has no innovation, nor it is succesful
Ferrari, Saipem (which literally built that thing where we store liquid gas), Lamborghini, eh.... Poland stronk!

>They do
Wow, 700 Italians, this is INVASION!!!!!

You're distorting both proportions and reality

Ukraine has a lower life expectancy than Cambodia, like 1 out of every 50 men has AIDS, their GDP per capita is lower than the poorest Latin American country (Bolivia) and their Gini inequality index is even higher than Brazil, they don't even have a jolly culture or beaches to make up for it like Greece or Central America, their country is ravaged by both civil and international war, it's not a big assumption to make.

>In the West you have many newspapers, but they all are saying the same
no we don't, we have had several newspapers that published articles celebrating migrants' ships sinking and others that promote immigration like it's the solution to every ailment
> courts can interpret the law and force catholic organizations to close because they don't provide services to somebody
i think you're referring to something specific but I'm not sure what so i can't really reply on that but as a general rule the Catholic church doesn't have to follow most italian laws

how do you get an unknown flag

You know why Euromaidan happened, right? You must be memeing if you think Ukraine is comparable to anywhere in how swful the situation is.

Poles will always succeed in capitalism because they are half-Germans, half-Jews, and additionally brainwashed by catholicism that makes perfect workers and farmers out of them. Poles were poor only because of three reasons: 1) partitions/foreign occupation (around 200 years - 1772-1918 and 1939-1989), 2) due to being completely destroyed and decimated in most brutal world wars in history of humanity, 3) because of the communism that deprived whole generations of Poles of a natural ability to accumulate capital - we literally lost 50 years in comparison with capitalist countries.

Poles will always be better than all their neighbours - except of Germans - no matter if they belong to the EU or not, because they are more hardworking and smarter. Germans are the only nation that is genetically and intellectually able to build better country than Poles. Everything placed east from Poland is dirty animals and sub-humans.

>So is the shithole of India
no it's not lol, at least google things before saying them if you're not sure
>wrong Italy has no innovation, nor it is succesful.
i don't have the pic saved but italy produced about a fourth of all human knowledge so you're extremely wrong on this one
>Had an extremely low gdp growth for last 30 years.
again, 8th economy in the world and top 5 before the eurozone
>They do, either you live in Bytom or some fucking shithole or you don't see a streets of a proper big city where you hear Italian quite often.
that's the whole point of the Schengen zone you spastic,i doubt you hear more italian around than you do french or german. Also you're in no position to talk about emigration, I did my last year of high school in Ireland and about half of my school was Polish, your people have stolen more scholarships,schooling and welfare than anyone else across Europe

Well OK, Italy might have it a little different, but nevertheless pluralism in media doesn't exist in the West despite what Westerners claim

Is there any big media in your country which would prefer to abolish abortion on demand for instance? In Poland the biggest weekly is one issued by the Catholic Church

>hi int im retarded the post
kek

My post is not retarded. I have a direct contact with these creatures from the East everyday after this trash flooded my country. Most of them have skulls and faces like apes, primitivism and low intellect is written on their faces. You can't make a gold out of shit. The East is so poor, dirty and shitty because "people" who live there are inferior.

>again, you're making false equivalence
no, it's you.

>Ferrari, Saipem
those are literally companies that italy had forever and... they are less relevant than ever before.

I'd also add Alfa Romeo, who has reputation of being extremely shitty and malfunctioning.

>Wow, 700 Italians, this is INVASION!!!!!
you wish.

keep dreaming

>no it's not lol, at least google things before saying them if you're not sure

India is 4th economy in the world.

>i don't have the pic saved but italy produced about a fourth of all human knowledge so you're extremely wrong on this one
I'm talking about current shitalians not based roman chads that lived before you.

>again, 8th economy in the world and top 5 before the eurozone

Wrong 12th and predicted 13th by 2019, but continue rambing.

>i doubt you hear more italian
Italian is the most common for sure, also they are not bad immigrants at all and they are not the cheap ones, those who come are the smart ones, working for lucrative industries that gives them better money than in Italia and better living standards and more business firendly enviroment. Those poeple are actually benefiting us.

>those are literally companies that italy had forever and... they are less relevant than ever before.
>I'd also add Alfa Romeo, who has reputation of being extremely shitty and malfunctioning.
You're speaking from a position of a country that has barely any of its own industry and yet you dismiss so easily others. You're retarded and you lack any credibility. No serious people will want to speak with you

abortion was made legal a long time ago (not without a fight tho) so even the church gave up on outlawing it, every doctor has the right to be a conscientious objector if they're against it so there's no pressure from the press about it, people just choose on their own (a lot of the times they're against it still but there's always someone that fills in the hole and makes quite a literal killing doing them).
On the pluralism of media i get your point, most journalists are generally left-leaning and it skews the percentage of right to left media, but it's not like they don't exist, and they're very rarely censored across europe

>that has barely any of its own industry
also a bullshit. Poland's industrial output is big and poland has also the trade surplus, meaning it exports more than imports.

>Poland's industrial
Poland's. Not polish

Italy on the other has an italian industrial output

italy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shit>poland

American tourist in Rome.