Should the west really keep kicking them while they're down?

How the fuck are they ''down'' ? What is the big drama behind this stabbed in the back brainlet myth ?

They have extraordinary influence compared to how many goods and services cross through that shithole. We need to kick them until they are down.

By sailing through their waters with warships, threatening their neighbours, arming and recognizing Taiwan, launching trade wars against them. I am sure Russia will start doing all this any time because the Western wisdom is that Russia and China can't be friends, and the west is never wrong.

No. Imagine the market of Russian qt's that would flood the world if they weren't so poor.

based and redpilled

>until they westernise properly
Anglos always do that: westernize everything even if that is killing what they westernize

We are collapsing in real time.

It is litterally meme anti-capitalistic propaganda IRL,

incomes of 1% grow every year from 2014-2018 by 10-15% at the same time, incomes of 99% fall every year by 3-4%

we received 20 new billionaires in six years at the same time, the majority's incomes fell by 15%

With such movement, we will receive neo-Bolshevism in 10 years

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dindu nuffin. they're literally pimping their women out to third worlders to improve international relations. leave them alone

retarded sinophile anti-western s(c)lav.

>be more economically and technologically powerful than the whole West combined

How can you say that with a 3 digit IQ ?

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Russians have a lot of useless self-esteem. I think their tendency is similar to Chinese in East Asia. They like to build pride in such useless small things and are corrupt and loud. I guess Communism and high poverty rates seem to have made them like this.

>How can you say that with a 3 digit IQ ?
If you knew anything about IQ you would know why I'm right.

Retarded Romanian gypsy, go die somewhere around Volgograd once again, the western friends are firmly behind you. I am sure that they will accept you as one of them.

>If you knew anything about IQ you would know why I'm right.

>why

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So? Are you a commie or something?

He's right though. Westerners are trying to put all kinds of barriers against the Chinese avalanche.

>we
You're just a barking dog. Why do easterners believe they are somehow part of the Western big boys club? They'll throw you under the bus again, if needed.

sage

So youre basically admitting that the west doesnt have any moral high ground and its function is to destroy nonwestern countries?

The anglo is honest for the first time in history

this

They'll throw /you/ under the bus. The whole architecture of present world order falls if that happens to us, though.

>Westerners are trying to put all kinds of barriers against the Chinese avalanche.

They aren't, and there is no Chinese avalanche. Maybe in your cheap ass ports sold for scrap. It's the masturbatory fantasy of accelerationist bored milennials who don't matter.

I'm so scared of the Chinese power projection from Djibouti though. That could really upset the balance.

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>China is Russia's best friend
Umm... no.
Hegemonist russia has historically always been China's biggest threat and vice versa.

Do you see any decent euro made electronics around? No huh? Like it or not China is more relevant than Europe.

>The whole architecture of present world order falls if that happens to us, though.

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So in the context of geopolitics, who gives a fuck that you bydlo are suffering?
Country as a whole doesn't have financial problems. Just look at the debt, account balance, budget deficit, forex reserves...
Even the head of IMF said that Russia conducts a good macroeconomic policy.
>Russia has put in place an admirable macroeconomic framework—saving for a rainy day, letting the exchange rate float, introducing inflation targeting, and shoring up the banking system. As a result, it was able to weather tough times well, and today it has virtually no fiscal deficit, a solid current account balance, and very little debt.
imf.org/en/News/Articles/2018/05/25/sp052518-lagarde-address-to-st-petersburg-ief

>With such movement, we will receive neo-Bolshevism in 10 years
Nah, they are keeping you down just enough, that you won't chimp out. And brainwash you really well.

>So in the context of geopolitics, who gives a fuck that you bydlo are suffering?

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>The whole architecture of present world order falls if that happens to us, though.
PHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

>Just look at the debt, account balance, budget deficit, forex reserves...

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What is NATO
what is being the golden boys of Washington in this region.

In what way is that statement false ? If NATO fails to uphold mutual defense, civilization as we know it is gone. There will have to be new political structures arising

This pretty basic IR theory, but also a geopolitical reality.

I wish russia was happy and rich

but somehow that doesnt happen

why?

>NATO
An western interest promoting institution and nothing more. You're just a proxy like the entire se Europe

Bydlo

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom_in_Russia

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It's full of Russians

Current situation is not even close to the bolshevik revolution. Not internally, not externally.
And the key here is externally. Russia is objectively not a real competitor to the West today. Russian Empire potentially was, so it had to be eliminated and put under the control.
That's exactly what bolsheviks did.
And today it's China, which is potential competitor to the West. And the main goal is to not allow it to absorb Russia (economically, politically whatever). That's why both EU and Trump are getting softer on Russia.

You are just clueless, boy. I'm telling you about one thing, you show me some useless HIV stats.

>And today it's China, which is potential competitor to the West. And the main goal is to not allow it to absorb Russia (economically, politically whatever). That's why both EU and Trump are getting softer on Russia.

Chinese economy: Very high development

Chinese military interventionism worldwide for last 50 years: Zero

China > West

Good. These institutions are superior to slavo-byzantine subhuman corruption.

>What is NATO
Something that can easily go, if it stops being useful.
>what is being the golden boys of Washington in this region.
You are not.
>If NATO fails to uphold mutual defense, civilization as we know it is gone.
>There was not civilization before NATO

>There will have to be new political structures arising
Exactly. We are living in the time of global changes. And you are clinging to some old decrepit structures, thinking that they'll exist forever and without them the whole civilization will collapse...

why are russians so good at educating

>corruption
>NATO and the west is not corrupt and war mongering

>without them the whole civilization will collapse...

I didn't say collapse. I said monumental change that powerful people wont let happen.

>Something that can easily go, if it stops being useful.

Then why hasn't it ? It's only getting more useful, with bigger and bigger exercises, with more and more troops deployed here. Americans are NEVER leaving Romania in our lifetimes. There's no reason for them to allow Eurasia to happen.

>You are not.

Yea, we are. Stop being a hohol rapebaby, accept the west, and improve your country.

>while they're down
Did i miss something again?

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the only thin collapsing is your '''''''''''''''''''''''nation''''''''''''''''''''''

lmao is this gypsy serious in his delusions

Could you be more delusional?

These are factually backed realities. Eastern Europe is getting stronger by the day on the Poland-Romania axis. 80 billion in defense acquisitions in the next 8 years, on strategic capabilities like ATACMS.

We also host a shitload more Western troops every single fucking month. More, and more, and more with bigger exercises.

Saber Guardian was the largest NATO exercise in the past 30 years, on this territory.

Whachu gonna do about it, mankurts ?

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Yes just look at the absolute cohesion and cooperation of the e""""u""""

is the quality of life in russia really africa or south america level? is it even worse than china? or are Jow Forums's russian posters exaggerating? my aunt traveled to st. petersburg and gave me a few russian snacks the chocolate with the baby on the wrapping paper is memorable it tasted much better than i expected by the way

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A bulgar swiches sides when his master is not what she used to be

Like clockwork

Can you be even more of a subhuman mankurt while AT THE SAME TIME being an EU puppet ? It's quite an achievement.

Whachu gonna do about Camp Bondsteel, you little bitch ? Are you gonna storm it and claim it for glorious Greater Serbia ? I'd love to see your mankurt children pulled out of rubble again.

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You realise that what you're just saying is that you are a mere camp for western troops to station in, right?

>We also host a shitload more Western troops every single fucking month.
And how is this something to be proud of you dumb retard?

>Should the west really keep kicking them while they're down?
YES

I dont give a fuck about the EU. Only our alliance with the US. Which is stronger and more fruitful literally by the fucking day.

youtube.com/watch?v=OcbhzLdcaAs&t=100s

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You are an even bigger puppet then we are, what the fuck is wrong with you
Why are you so happy about selling your ass to the West, to the people who don't even like you and consider you a gypsy?

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>mere camp for western troops

Mutual interests in keeping Russia away from the whole region. The region is filled with retarded mankurts so they need to be kept in check.

>And how is this something to be proud of you dumb retard?

Safety, progress, security guarantees, participation in the western financial system, better military tech at good prices with technology transfer, and 50k veterans rotated in US or NATO interventions in the past 20 years bringing about a lot of experience.

What is one single drawback ? We'd get nuked and raped by mongols if shit goes down whether there are American troops here or not. I at least want to do some damage to their subhuman, inferior, regressive civilization before I go down.

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i thinks they should destroy this shit once again
just to make sure that our people be good west slaves

>the people

Who are these people ? Definitely not the Pentagon, EU comission, the IMF, world bank, etc. It's worked out pretty good.

What is one single drawback ? Subhuman slavs hate us even more. I just want to contribute to your isolation and hopefully, someday, utter destruction.

My grandfather put bullets in mongol Bolsheviks from Odessa to Sevastopol.

Village after village, house after house. My generation's turn will come.

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>consider you a gypsy

I'm literally a gypsy ethnically. Not even the people in this shithole like me, but I am loyal to my nation and to our allies because I've seen our standards of living quintuple with my own eyes.

Oh, a naziboo cockslurper
Well enjoy your rapefugees

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The quality of their products and services and life in general is shit because they dont accept neoliberalism. But they're not poor. They can still afford quite a lot of that cheap, poor quality shit.

An insanely wealthy upper class that puts America to shame though.

Why does everyone bully slavs?
Please no bully, please!!

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Retarded Russian meme to sow disunity, completely irrelevant for Eastern EU (except for Balkan transit countries + Hungary) , not for us.

We got 2k refugees. Not one single incident.

We filter them, we force them to learn Romanian and we beat the shit out of them if they misbehave. Most of them are in workforce or education now, making my delicious Syrian shawarma.

There's like 1% chance we'll get 10-15k if really WW3 breaks loose in the Mid East. No chance for any sociopolitical changes because of refugees for us, only for Western cucks.

Poles, Czechs, Slovaks and are in some ways superior even to Germanics.

Russhits and Bulgarians are inferior even to Romanians.

Western slavs are nigger tier which is why their countries are nigger tier.

They already sending 600 000 to Albania (20% of their population lol) in exchange for joining EU
How many EU gibs are they gonna send you in exchange for getting browned

But my brother, we're already brown

Source ? Not your mankurt tabloids. And we are not Albania.

They can't send shit here, and they dont want to. It's just political theatre.

>I'm literally a gypsy ethnically.
bro, i have one big question what do rome people think of india and indians? do they praise india and their indian roots?

China will do to us what we do to russia 200 years from now

No. They dont give a shit. My family got rich fast so I never really interacted with lower class tigani (aka 90% of tigani).

They just care about stealing and getting their goodies. It's literally a sociopathic culture, but it's not violent or ideological.

youtube.com/watch?v=Grk5RzL3Z2Q

We're more based than you might think.

Just mind your own business if you have time to butt in their business. Leave Europeans alone so they can deal with their matters.

>westernise
Didn't they already try to do that 20 years ago and the (((west))) still kicked them?

i don't see any chinese cars though

>My grandfather put bullets in mongol Bolsheviks from Odessa to Sevastopol.

Im so happy that bucovina, south dobrudja, budjak, and besarabia are slavic now. Btw bruh, just let moldova go.

>I'm literally a gypsy ethnically.
explains your lack of principles and a sense morality

fpbp

Based R-pop

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>south dobrudja, budjak

Fundamentally Bulgarian which were ours only because of our greed when we were strong. It was the right thing to lose them, as much as it hurts to say that.

>bucovina, besarabia are slavic now

And look how amazingly it's going for them. Truly bastions of progress compared to Burundi and Ethiopia.

>explains your lack of principles and a sense morality

Fictions for plebs.

But i still disagree. Adopting a superior sociopolitical model that brings about wealth, peace and progress is fundamentally ethical.

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Guy on left is gypsy, guy on right is Romanian. Know the difference.

I think they are just like that as a cry for help

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For the time being

>My family got rich fast so I never
Then you don't really care about Romania either. Only thing people like you care about is their money. If Russian offered a higher price you would be cheering for them.

No, I care about what Romania represents in this shithole region. The potential for progressive materialism and Western culture, for real advancement.

Also It feels good that just an itty bitty piece of my taxes goes towards the isolation of Russia.

That means you'll have to get as rich as them and become secular, with a good education system and an organised and efficient state with low corruption. Iirc correctly Dragnea stated the the EU should respect Romania more while euros accused him of going authoritarian. Doesn't look that good.

So you basically want Romania to be an eternally cucked globalist consumerist hellhole. You deserve a bullet in the head.

No. The west must Easternize.

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t. Nietzschean

>literal subhumam gypsy
Opinion discarded.

No, it's more like Poland or Hungary. It has real fucking shitholes in it though (Chechnya).

this

>because they dont accept neoliberalism
That's the fault of neoliberalism you globalist stooge

>No, it's more like Poland or Hungary.

GDP per capita =/= quality of life

Unless you really believe quality of life in Equatorial Guinea is higher than in New Zealand

>is the quality of life in russia really africa or south america level?

It depends on what you mean. For example, quality of life in Argentina is definitely better than in Russia. It's not only about average income, but also climate, safety, healthcare, housing conditions etc. Russia has an extremely high HIV prevalence rate, for instance, on part with many African countries like Congo. I think this is way more important as for "quality of life" than your income. Russia has also Africa-tier homicide rate.

>is it even worse than china?

Well, if China is a shithole in your opinion, then you seem to have lofty expectations. China is way better than Russia, especially Chinese cities. Russians even show Chinese urban planning as an EXAMPLE for Russians how to make good urban space, because Russian urban planning is so much worse. I don't know much about rural China, but I doubt it's worse than an average minor town in Russia:

google.pl/maps/@56.2065939,95.6719417,3a,75y,97.67h,91.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2EuEmGmxrNn0Gf7WtAT0Hg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

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>because they dont accept neoliberalism
Because of neoliberalism Western Europe is going down the fucking drain

Yeah, we see how prosperous illiberal countries like Russia or Serbia are...