How would you solve the Gibraltar issue between UK and Spain?

tell spain to go fuck a duck

Spain still has a city in Morocco too though

Two, and they existed before morocco was formed.

Do you really need them? I mean aren't they just a burden because they're hard to defend against illegals?

Annex the UK for Spain

Just keep them that way. Have Britons wait for 5 hours everytime they want to go to Spain while allowing Spanish people easy access

Would you freely give up something that has been part of your country for centuries?

Not an integral part of the nation of course, but if we had random dots on the map on another continent I doubt I would care much for them.

To me they seem like random leftovers of the Spanish Empire that have little to do with Spain itself. That's an outsiders perspective of course.

They should fight for it.

Why do they keep making it so difficult?
>Hurr durr you have to break up the UK because of Ireland lol
If we get a no deal, the EU is as much, if not more so to blame as Westminster.

Think for a while why the strait of Gibraltar cramped with semi-exclaves from different countries and US bases and Support facilities
in Andalusia.

>I doubt I would care much for them.
And don't use the excuse that you will never get into NATO and you're a landlocked country now. And other will have to defend and be a buffer state for you.

The EU should have never evolved beyond a free trade agreement and a monetary Union

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>Two, and they existed before morocco was formed.

not even remotly true, unless you're going full fucking retard and pretend morocco didn't exist before they got independance from france, an no one could be that delusional

Tell spain to fuck off unless they want to get nuked

rightful dutch clay

>How would you solve the Gibraltar issue between UK and Spain?
Invade Spain

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It’s been happening for decades now.

Why not give morocoo to algeria?

Kick the sp*nish dogs out.
We stand with Catalonia. Death to sp*nish oppressors!

if you wanted to play that game, gib has technically been british longer than spain has been a country

>1. Gib becomes a city-state.
>4. Gib citizens retain Brittish citizenship.
>5. Gib citizens acquire Spanish citizenship.
You can't according to Utrecht, sorry Anglo or Spaniard, no more Malta bullshit

this is true. end settlement:
- gibraltar stays british
- spain cedes overseas territories to morocco

this seems fair and reasonable

>give cities to another state
Why not give morocco to Algeria?

It was lossed by them the same war that they lose Minorca, they bitching to France to keep that, I don't really care I just want that closed just like Ceuta and Melilla, the same borders that they want in Calais and ban all the Andalusian busisnes there because is a tax haven ...

>Gibraltar es argentino
Problem solved user, next conflict to solved please

building a wall, and making the uk pay for it

you won't get gibraltar unless you give back ceuta and mellila ( eventually the canary and other islands ... ) :)

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>tfw reverse invasion

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who the fuck cares
it's a rock in the middle of Hell with a bunch of monkeys on it
why do my contrymen care so much

Or Spain allies with Algeria and you all get sent to conc camps

Los gringos nos quitaron Gibraltar, por lo tanto le pertenece a México.

you'll just make it poor

i fuck your sister in malaga costa del sol every summer
good so we humiliate algeria and spain combined like we've been doing for centuries.

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Modest care is needed, but not such extreme of pressing war, but economic and peaceful measures for returning territory is good.

Nice deal, I'm pretty fond of Mia Khalifa looking 9ahba's lole

That mount in the back is the Gurugu btw

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t. moroccan parasite

?????????????

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>like we've been doing for centuries.

>be Napoleon
>too scared for a proper invasion of Spain
>have the most profesional and best soldiers in europe at the time
>make them lose to spanish peasants

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What?

Y'know, there were brits and tugas around too

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Spain existed united since 1512, and the kingdom of castille captured it in 1309
Britain got it in 1713

genocide anglos

Melilla 1497 and Ceuta after the disband of the Iberian union are two dates worth mentioning too

>We brits are so superior cause we have Gibraltar n shieet

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>Spaniards aren’t getting angry or buthurt

The eu needs to be ran by meds desu
Much nicer Than krout autism

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Lol what the fuck am I reading?

the UK should stop being delusional and realize that they are no longer a major nor important country on the global stage
their obsession with their tiny islands and tiny areas they pathetically hold onto to maintain the illusion of an "empire" is LARPing of the most pathethic form
the UK has fallen and they are in no position to act as if they didn't
Gibraltar should either become independent or be integrated into Spain

if they refuse, the EU should just crash the UK economy untill they've reached an Africa-tier status and be done with it
we've been too nice to them for too long

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city-states can't join the EU

The thing is We dont fucking care about the rock and the brits either. It is the EU that is fueling this to harm the UK.

desu nobody gives a fuck about gibraltar

How about with a referendum?

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Spain leaves the EU aswell, then we form our own EU thats lets us have free movement so we can still holiday in spain and spainish can still come here for dish washing jobs. There sorted.

>An argelian and a Morocan sitting peacefully together
nice try

Yeah you cunts are too busy fighting one another
are you a country?

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Then again, the Spanish state hates it when the people get a say over their own fates, doesn't it?

>Reaction in Spain was mostly negative, with El País calling the referendum a "dishonest consultation",[11] while Spanish Minister of Foreign Affairs Ana Palacio described it as "illegal" and "against all the UN resolutions".[12]

I'd keep Gibraltar under British control, and then also put Catalonia under British control too

it's a non-issue. The Spaniards, Brits and people of Gibraltar are okay with how things are. The EU needs to fuck off with this petty shit stirring and accept that we are leaving the Union, maybe then we'd have a deal that benefits everyone involved and not this silly tug-of-war to punish Britain for voting for something that was inevitable. Did they really expect Britain to want to be part of a European superstate? It's good that we are leaving, we were nothing but a hindrance to further integration. They should be glad we are leaving.

>Gibraltar is British and always will be. Why would we ever want to change our flag?

The mayor of Gibraltar has already spoken I'm afraid.

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With our new ramp carriers Spain don't dare do anything.

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Absolute cuck lmfao

>australian royal navy have chosen the bae systems type 26 frigate over the spanish competitor

LMAO at spain

We got it before the alawis formed their kingdom now please fuck off moroccan scum

Spain vs. UK would be like the retard fight of ramp navies.

How come once such great empires were reduced to mere ramps and France is strong as fuck with their nuclear powered HAUT PLAT?

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Our Turkish brothers bought ours instead, surrender or suffer the wrath of the KARA BOGAS

France's carrier was years late and its costs overran terribly because they fucked up its nuclear reactor. It now spends months in dry-dock servicing said reactor and trying to extend its life. Their 1 (one) carrier is also TINY compared to the Royal Navy's 2 (two) new superrampcarriers.

Will you look at those curves

it is funny because ramp means disaster in Dutch

A FUCKING RAMP

>THICCC
Is this 2014? PLAT is the new hottness.

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You still need support ships to refuel your escorts like destroyers and frigates, so unless you're America which has the Pacific ocean to patrol a nuclear-powered carrier isn't a big deal, especially if you're not short of naval bases around the world too like the RN.

>superrampcarriers
bigger target

The Netherlands is such a flat country any ramp can cause a disaster.

A DIESEL POWERED RAMP

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>invade territory
>expel native population
>replace it with your own
>make a referendum
>hurr durr democracy!!!1

You did the same thing in Malvinas, the eternal anglo strikes again.

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But nobody lived on the Falkland Islands before us, it was literally uninhabited except for one or two Spanish soldiers in an outpost

>>replace it with your own

Nah, The rock is very ethnically diverse, in the sense that there are italians, maltese, andalusians, jews and even some mussies that have been living there for centuries

>expel native population
>The Falklands

>The Falklands remained uninhabited until the 1764 establishment of Port Louis on East Falkland by French captain Louis Antoine de Bougainville, and the 1766 foundation of Port Egmont on Saunders Island by British captain John MacBride.[D] Whether or not the settlements were aware of each other's existence is debated by historians.[26

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>>expel native population

The penguins are still there m8. Just be thankful they don't weigh enough to set off the landmines the Argentines left.

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There were argentinians living there in 1833 when the brits invaded.
Next time make the referendum before the invasion and I might take it seriously.

>There were argentinians living there in 1833 when the brits invaded.

>A briefly manned Garrison and a German fishing are now a settlement

>1823 Buenos Aires granted German-born merchant Luis Vernet permission to conduct fishing activities and exploit feral cattle in the archipelago.[F] Vernet settled at the ruins of Puerto Soledad in 1826, and accumulated resources on the islands until the venture was secure enough to bring settlers and form a permanent colony.[35] Buenos Aires named Vernet military and civil commander of the islands in 1829,[36] and he attempted to regulate sealing to stop the activities of foreign whalers and sealers.[30] Vernet's venture lasted until a dispute over fishing and hunting rights led to a raid by the American warship USS Lexington in 1831,[37][G] when United States Navy commander Silas Duncan declared the dissolution of the island's government.[38]

>Buenos Aires attempted to retain influence over the settlement by installing a garrison, but a mutiny in 1832 was followed the next year by the arrival of British forces who reasserted Britain's rule.[39]

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Fucking LOL.
This picture cracks me up.

:^)

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Yeah, it was your fault too.

the germans were removed too

of the 24 people that were left, most were gauchos and some were charrua indians, but there was no settlement left

Good job. Next time win the war and I might take you seriously.

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our fault for dealing with argentinian thieves?

Mussiea cant be living there for centuries because it was illegal.