>Americans in the early days of our republic identified by their state and not as "Americans" in the general sense
>you used to be a Tennessean, Georgian, Pennsylvanian, or Massachusite simply within a larger union known as the USA
do only Texans do this nowadays? Texas seems to be the only place when where they travel overseas they say they're from Texas or that they're Texan and not simply American
Americans in the early days of our republic identified by their state and not as "Americans" in the general sense
Matthew Hill
Xavier Cook
No, Texans are not the only ones who do that
Andrew Roberts
who else does
Samuel Perry
You belong to your state, your state is in a union with other states, that's it.
USA is simply Union of States.
Gabriel Morris
Most everyone
Grayson Kelly
everyone not in nyc is just a rural retard
Owen Wilson
literally when the fuck has anyone been overseas and said "i am Ohioan", unless pressed to know what state they are from?
Cooper Clark
It's not a union if the state cannot move out.
Liam Mitchell
yes, but the Civil War changed the general consciousness of the US, we became more federalized and monolithic not just in governance but in mentality outside select areas
Cameron Myers
I meant most everyone identifies as their state before being "American"
Overseas nobody gives a shit if you're not from Texas, California, or New York so it never comes out since you know from the get go they don't actually care
Blake Perez
almost every other American overseas seems to see themselves as American. I moved from Colorado to Texas (not of my own volition) and everyone in Colorado sees themselves as "American" first, while Texas in concordance with the meme basically acts like another country
I once chatted with a guy from some eastern country that thought that Texas was actually some other republic as a client state to the the US rather than actually a state by the way he chatted with Texans
Jackson Mitchell
Cool
Evan Hernandez
California referendum in 2020 would bring some news for Americans
Joshua Hall
>2015
Logan Fisher
There's more chance of Moscow seceding from Russia than there is California from the States.
Gavin Baker
The final outcome may be the same as of first american civil war, but to have a second one would be nice anyway.
Kevin Walker
>One-third of state residents support peacefully seceding from the United States, up from 20% since Californians were last asked the same question in 2014, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll.
>latimes.com
Kayden Thomas
That was an artifact of industrialization resulting in fewer regional differences.
Henry Hill
would it be fair to say that Civil War killed state consciousness but that the three major cultural regions (New England, Middle America, and Dixie) are still known as different?
Carson Murphy
California? Alaska? Utah? Chicago?
Jack Thompson
It looks like the current European Union
Cameron Cox
Agreed, would be a nice chance to send some undesirables back from whence they came.
Xavier Brown
Texas, California, New England, Dixie, Rustbelt, Alaska, and to a lesser extent, Pacific NW are all pretty state (or region) conscious.
Connor Howard
>undesirables back from whence they came
That would be problematic. Visit Chicago once in a while, ask some bunch of black teens on the streets what they think about your Ohio whites.
Camden Harris
Blacks are a stagnant and dying out minority, their population halved in 200 years and continues to do so. Not the problem
Mason Adams
>their population halved in 200 years and continues to do so
You don't have another 200 years. Not even 20. And that was just an example.
Robert Rodriguez
Indeed. Black birthrates are below replacement levels, they have the highest abortion rate of any ethnicity, the highest homicide and incarceration rates, highest rates of heart disease and diabetes, and also the lowest life expectancy of any ethnicity (69 for men and 76 for women).
Ryder Smith
>California?
>Alaska?
>Utah?
>Chicago?
all fall under the "Middle America" macrocultural region, though Utah is a little different because it has the unique Mormon society
Landon King
Spoken like a true brainlet
Jose Bennett
California is the same as middle america is the weirdest thing you could believe.
Gavin Cox
I'm not talking geography, I'm talking cultural regions
Ethan Stewart
By way of accents, churchs, and what Americans from back east settled there, they didn't take on the Southern/Dixie or New England cultures, they took on Middle American culture
Joshua Bailey
You're still talking?
Jayden Miller
Not for too long, I'm drunk right now