One thing I will never understand about Americans is why they hate (or are scare of) public transportation so much: it seems that things like trains and buses are considered "Anti-American" by most.
When will they learn that pic related is the best way to move around a city?
>inb4 t commie
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more like t. poor or are you brown
Anything public is considered too commie for mutts
americans dont like public transport because you have 40% of the population living in poverty and an assault rate multiple times that of anywhere in the first world, its dangerous and unpleasant
the absolute state of american education
They are OK with public roads though
(you)
Even in Europe nobody uses trains when they can afford a car.
What? Everyone even the rich use public transport here.
It's really simple, but you probably don't want to hear it:
It's because of niggers. I'm not being purposefully racist, but it's the real reason.
This is mostly incorrect and utterly autistic.
this is why NYC is the only american city worth living in
At least they have trains in their airports.
Bingo.
I never got why foreigners idolize New York so much.
its your best citt by far
Big buildings and (unironically) some actual culture.
I didn't write that piece about the French railway system.
Same here OP.
They have no problems spending billions on highways but a bus line is “socialism”
Transit charges a toll and highways are just a continual money sink. It’s infinitely more responsible spending by the government.
Poltard Americans have a preconceived notion of mass transit. They think it’s for the poor so they don’t support it.
They don’t realize the massive cost this country spends subsidizing oil and building roads and road infrastructure. They incorrectly assume cars are more individualistic.
If you didn’t want niggers in your town you ought to run as much transit as possible to price the nigs out.
It works every time a city does it. Price minorities out to the ‘burbs.
I've wondered this often and the conclusion I came to is:
-they think it's for poor people
-bad city planning
-they think it's for poor people
What gets me is even when private companies try to build high-speed rail, Republicans band together and block it.
It’s not that they think cars are more capitalist, ya that they ONLY want people driving cars, and they have no problems breaking all their (((beliefs))) to shoot down anything besides cars.
In every one of these threads is the teenager saying “if transit was profitable in the US someone would have figured out a way to do it!”
Actually a lot of people have but the republicans in every state they try to build one fight it.
This cunt is too fucking big for that anyway.
>I never got why foreigners idolize New York so much.
If for example cities like Los Angeles get a functional mass transit system by year 100,000 AD then the statement could change
because they fell for the automobile meme
me? I walk everywhere
>I walk everywhere
this unless it's going to be more than 30-40min then I'll get a train
>this triggers the amerilard
I'm not a fucking loser. I have my own car.
Also, I don't live in an urban shithole.
>They incorrectly assume cars are more individualistic.
Hi there minimum wage faggot.
Some German poster explained it. A lot of Europeans on Jow Forums are leftist students who get free bus passes and think everyone should do that.
>leftist
like clockwork here comes the political bait
What the fuck where do you live?
>trains and buses are considered "Anti-American" by most.
How? What? When? Where?
> pic related is the best way to move around a city?
My husband takes the train to work every day with hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of people (Chicago). Back in Arizona he took the bus, hell I took the bus my whole life with hundreds of people (in Lansing and Detroit) We took a vote to cut some of the funding for the bus and it flopped because people voted to increase taxes on the bus. (Detroit has the people mover too ayyy lmao)
Where do you think all our current bus and train routes come from? Magic? No, they are built and ran and maintained and funded by Americans. Could there be more bus routes? Sure maybe, though I never lived in a city which lacked one. In areas where there is no bus, that means there is not enough riders to fund it. You need a decent passenger load for a bus route to pay for itself, and sometimes tax payers aren't into it.
Do you get around solely by taking paths through the woods or do you drive on socialist government roads like a fucking minimum wage poor person?
>increase taxes FOR the bus
rather
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Literal bus schedules in DETROIT, car capital of the entire world.
OP has to be trolling from bizarro world where "Americans hate buses" wtf
Pretty sure everyone uses government roads
>socialist government
Uh no. The US govt is FAR from socialist are you a retard (if you are OP yes you are a retard)
I can only GUESS that OP lives in the middle of a cornfield or at the bottom of a lake somewhere. In that case the reason why they don't build a train station at your corn field is because you'd be the only one riding said train. Its not worth it, the state only has so much money, your podunk municipality has so much money. You might get a bus stop if you rally for it, but you aren't going to get a train stop which requires much heavier investment and I'm sorry but your corn field is not worth a stop. Don't like it then move. Get on your fucking bike (if you are too poor for a car) and bike to the city.
Places like Chicago have a robust train system because its a metropolitan area and it serves literal millions.
US relies on trains for freight far more than Europe too:
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>It’s not just that they are self-sufficient and fuel-efficient, employ 175,000 workers and have poured $500 billion into their trains, tracks and terminals since 1980. They are also quite literally the engines of our economy. America’s passenger rail is a global joke, but our freight rail is the envy of the world, carrying over 40% of our intercity cargo. Trains carry much less of Europe’s freight, which is why trucks clog Europe’s highways. And America’s rail-shipping rates are the world’s lowest, reducing the cost of doing business in the U.S.; they’ve fallen 45% in real dollars since the industry was deregulated three decades ago.
Saying America is "anti-train" has to be the most stupid idiotic thing i ever heard. Let alone "anti-bus" the preferred mode of transport for poorfags literally everywhere (including me a longtime busfag)
Literally everywhere: even when talking with more "liberal" people, most agree that public transit is a waste of taxpayers money.
Seriously, I visited cities that didn't even have a fucking sidewalk.
>Literally everywhere: even when talking with more "liberal" people, most agree that public transit is a waste of taxpayers money.
No not literally everywhere. Living in Chicago, Detroit, and Lansing, everyone supports public transit. Many people use it, especially poorfags.
WHERE do you live where there is no public transit? Be specific. You lying trolltard.
82% of Americans support increased public transit, even 79% of cornfield-dwellers like yourself. WHERE do you live and who are these "liberals"? Is this Gen Zers tired of taking the school bus? Tell your schoolmates that owning their own car is a big responsibility. Tell your mom you've been trolling on Jow Forums and spouting absolute nonsense about how Americans are "anti bus" because you and your buddies get embarassed when the shortbus rolls up.
Atlanta, but I never said that there is no public transit here, read again my posts...
Keep frantically googling for a single city which lacks a bus route. Maybe you'll find one. Try stretching the definition of city to include lone oil rig outposts in Alaska??
lmao this thread is full of losers.
gonna go out and take my bmw for a spin. have fun debating about public transit losers lol
Wow you should seek mental health assistance ASAP fucking chill out
Why is public transportation in North America and Europe so crappy compared to what's available in East Asia?
For example, Japan has insane high-tech maglev trains.
If Atlanta has public transportation its because a majority of Atlantans support it. Your local bus route came to be because a majority of Atlantans wanted a bus route.
Shows that 3 out of 4 Atlantans say that improved public transportation is "VERY IMPORTANT" to Atlanta's future. 49% want more public transit on top of what Atlanta already has (and this is much lower than the nation at large, I can assume that finances might be particularly tight in Atlanta). Fulton county, the actual county where Atlanta proper sits? 53% aka a Majority. By FAR Atlantans support public transit over roads. Nearly 2x as much.
I can only assume you are hanging out with wealthy Gen Zers who hate the bus and can't wait for daddy to buy them their own cars. They aren't representative of working Americans as a whole though, not by a long shot.
Asians are insects and live in a hive-like society.
Most Asian governments are what you call developmental states, where the government largely exists to promote economic development, and civil servants are much more powerful.
One consequence of this is that things are mostly run by economists and they can build shit without spending forever in committees or getting dunked on by lobbyists.
This.
Avoid public transport unless you want to be surrounded by shitskins
I lived in NY for 10 years - its public transportation, social services, and basically everything are superior to other American cities. honestly, it's the only "real" city america has where it's not dominated by cars and doesn't have some downtown/inner-city area that empties out after 5pm/working hours
>things like trains and buses are considered "Anti-American" by most.
Bullshit on the trains. Light rail and subways are widely used in large metro areas. Without buses minorities would never be able to travel more than walking distance.
>and doesn't have some downtown/inner-city area that empties out after 5pm/working hours
FiDi is pretty dead after 7. Midtown isn't that much better either.
Not really, the truth of the matter is that American infrastructure in a lot of places (especially out west) was laid out for car travel. For instance, if I wanted to drive from the west side of Phoenix to the east side of Phoenix, it will take me 45 minutes to an hour in a car via freeway. If I wanted to use public transport to do the same thing, it would take me all day between stops and transfers.
Gas is cheap, cars are cheap, and everything is really far apart. Add those three factors as well as the inherent layout of most American cities favoring car travel and you end up with a really shitty public transportation system.
>One thing I will never understand about Americans is why they hate (or are scare of) public
I enjoy driving and most of the country is very rural. I grew up 15 minutes from the nearest town.
NY subway system is notoriously shit. Chicago's blows it out of the water. Fuck your grandma's donkey cart blows it out of the water. NY subway system is a mess.
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Hahahah have fun being LATE. Meanwhile I know my Chicago train is probably not going to be late except when they messed with the schedule or someone jumps in front of it.
it fucking sucks in every way possible
it's always late
full of homeless people
smells like urine
takes 3x longer getting anywhere
honestly anything "public" is destined to be utterly worthless
To add to this: I have to take a bus to reach my work because there's no parking for some god awful reason. I hate having to schedule my mornings around the bus.
Why else do you think leftists jerk off to it?
>full of homeless people
WTF where do you live??
Rent free
TIL: capitalism work and solve everything..
Buses are good when you have no other option. Nobody dreams of riding the bus. But it does its job.
Its like a public toilet (sometimes public transit doubles as a literal public toilet) Its not pleasant necessarily, but you need it. Americans know that much and they generally want it to be better, but the nature of public transit is that it tends to attract the poor (unless you get those twee shuttle busses for the upper class only in San Francisco)
>I will never understand about Americans is why they hate (or are scare of) public transportation so much
Public transportation is for poor people.
This
I have 2 cars and I’m not stupid enough to think that transit wouldn’t be a massive improvement for our country.
It’s sorely needed. Building development patterns and people’s lifestyles, and economies are affected by our transportation options.
Spending money on buses and trains would save our country billions in the near future while spurring economic growth.
Does that mean you want shitskins to be out driving on your roads and making traffic worse or causing accidents? Sounds stupid.
it is not that well develop, if it was, I would probably be using it. Would save me a lot of money on car insurance.
>he thinks all mass transit is public
Lol, all the anti-transiters are poorfags who’ve never left the country and seen real transportation.
we'd have to be just as bad though since our cities are even newer
They're basically giant suburbs with a small gentrified CBD with sky scrapers
I think Australia might be too sparse for high-speed rail.
In America it’s a brilliant idea because we have regions with a lot of cities nearby each other; I thought Australian cities are spread along the coast.
American real estate is all about building in the city center and accommodating pedestrians/transit these days. It has been for 10 years. Multi family outpaces single-family every year. Any wise investor would invest in mass transit or transit-oriented development in America.
Also no cars are not even half as fast as high-speed trains.
The cities are spread out but they're also very dense, that would be perfect for a railway. Every single state except for Queensland the capital is 60%+ of the entire population so there isn't really any reason why trains wouldn't be viable between the main cities, its about a 10 hour drive between each of Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne and then Adelaides a bit further.
Then again you can just fly for 100-150 bucks and trains which aren't nationalised would probably cost more than that anyway.
If people in the cities want to do that, that's cool with me, however I live in the middle of nowhere in Nebraska so I've got no skin in the game.
>tfw Vancouver's Skytrain is better than San Francisco's BART
>If Vancouver was an American city, its metro would have the fifth highest ridership
>Only 3 million people in Van
>The 99 B line bus route is the most used bus route in North America with 60,000 daily users
They don't. Post 9/11 California is king.
Until the train is delayed every fifteen minutes, fucking trains. Stop delaying you cunts I'm late all the time.
No. Try getting parked in the middle of Paris, or better yet getting there in less time than you would by train from the suburbs.
At best people can alternate between a scooter and metro, but even the poor have access to scooters.
>driving cuckboxes
I don't like wasting time.
>be america
>have the biggest light rail/tram network in the world
>greedy jew companies tear it all down and replace it with buses
>fast forward to 2018
wOW wHY iS aMERICAN pUBLIC tRANSPORT sO sHiT
The reason they fell out of favor was the unlimited wealth of the 50s-70s right before fuel crisiseseseseseseses hit.
They reason they have stayed out of favor is because niggers.
>Seriously, I visited cities that didn't even have a fucking sidewalk
Now thats retarded and largely relegated to tiny towns that are super spread out. Although I will say that sidewalks are only workable with buildings or trees for shade and being at least 10 feet wide.
It's human nature to be afraid of any change, good or bad.
If we're talking large cities with over a million people, than yeah you might as well take the bus. Otherwise, the freedom a car offers you is worth the price, especially if you have fun roads.
> american shitty metro infested with hobos and thugs
> those UGLY stations
haha
*ahem*