They're so convoluted and go all over the place or have parts that are almost disconnected from the rest of the state. Any Mexicans here know the history/reasoning behind them?
I'm specially curious about the states highlighted here, and the little ones (Aguascalientes, Tlaxcala, Morelos and Mexico City)
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state borders where designed to make regional identity dificult
and to obstruct any independentist initiative
most of them dont follow actual geographic characteristics
That green-blue one you highlighted in the Northeast is Nuevo Leon, and the literally didn't want to border the US (or at least Texas), and gave the pink state that weird stretch of land.
Why didn't they want to border us? And why did they kept that little piece?
this is a myth tho
the state of tamaulipas(the pink one) used to stretch all the way to nueces river
tamaulipas has always had that shape
its a myth
that little piece was granted to them after
to let them avoid state tariffs, they were a thing still back then
Interesting. I just looked at it on Google and there's a little town, there. Desu, I thought there would be like a city like Juarez or something.
Do you know anything about the other states?
yucatan peninsula was broken in three states/territories to deal with independentist tendencies
tlaxcala is an independant state because of the sperging of tlaxcaltecas
aguascalientes is an independant state because maximiliano wife asked him for that
mexico federal government succesfully antagonized saltillo city in coahuila against monterrey to permantently break regional unity
so far its still truth, as much as at the begining (saltillo people is way more native)
probably something to do with how shittly the mexican american war peace treaty was ended
>president/congress ordered the representative to annex everything above the (light) pink line in pic
>many southerners (future confederacy) senators wanted everything above the dark pink line
>mexico wanted everything under the blue line
>american diplomat felt bad and changed it to everything below the red line
>congress/president is furious with him, so later we "purchase" everything above the black line
the whole peace treaty was a clusterfuck, but since telephones wernt invented yet, by the time politicians in washington realized what happened, it was already too late to change the treaty
and the south got butthurt that they couldnt add as many new slave states from the new land as they wanted, which on top of a bunch of other grievances, caused the american civil war a decade later
if we had waited 15-20 years to start the mexican america war (and assuming we did as good that time as we did in our timeline) north america could have looked a whole lot different
what was the deal with the Rio Grande republic (pic related)
was it baby texas that didnt work out too well, a revolt older than the texas republic, or were they copycats of the texas republic, that got crushed by mexican authority? was it a land grab attempt to get more of the disputed "new mexico" territory away from texas?
you can read about it in wikipedia
its irrelevant
its unity has permanently been broken
So we were actually gonna get Baja, too? Bummer desu
I really wonder what would've happened if we had gotten everything north of the dark pink line.
Is there any specific reasoning for the Y shape border in Yucatan? Or for all those squiggly bits in Yucatan itself?
Why were the Tlaxcaltecas revolting? What state were they a part of before?
Who was Maximiliano and why was his wife interested in making Aguascalientes a state?
>so far its still truth, as much as at the begining (saltillo people is way more native)
Could you elaborate more on this?
they only wanted that far south because it had a telegraph line from the atlantic to the pacific, which would have saved time making one from St.Louis to california
it really wouldnt have help in the long run, either the CSA would have had more manpower to throw at the north, or the huge mexican population would have been able to start a revolt there, either helping to prolong our civil war, or giving mexico enough of an advantage to push for a mexican american war round 2
and demographically we would be speaking spanish a lot sooner
that was the plan, but the american envoy thought that it was unfair and greedy of us, especially since it had no useful natural resources, and hardly any people living there
it would look nice on maps, but it would have been a net drain on our economy, administering such a large unprofitable land (whose residents hated us)
plus our envoy was ordered to pay the mexican government extra if we annexed baja, and we didnt have the money to do that
and there were also worries that if we spent any more time negotiating the treaty that mexico was going to have a new government from an impending civil war (or a coup would change the mexican government)
we were a little less than 10 years away from our own civil war at the time, and its honestly a miracle that the whole thing didnt end up worse for the US or mexico, both countries were on the verge of collapse when the war ended
A good bunch of the borders are natural river borders.
But I don't think there were many Mexicans living there, though, in both Baja and the rest of Northern Mexico.
At least with some northern states it's about distance from the capital and accessibility.
Baja was split in two because the population was concentrated all the way north and all the way at the tip of the peninsula with nothing in between for example, so they made a capital in the south and split the peninsula in two states.
No but do consider that immigration was much more lax back then.
Now mix even more Mexicans already in land and boom, you have like 400% the amount of Mexicans in 2018.