/lang/ – Language Learning General

Ignore the edgy Jow Forumsshit thread edition

>What language are you learning?
>Share language learning experiences!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Find people to train your language with!

Learning resources:
First and foremost check the Jow Forums Wiki. (feel free to contribuite

4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/The_Official_Jow Forums_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

Check pastebin.com/ACEmVqua for plenty of language resources as well as some nice image guides.

/Lang/ is currently short on those image guides, so if you can pitch in to help create one for a given language, don't hesitate to do so!

Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30 plus languages:

Google Drive folder with books for all kinds of languages:
drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9QDHej9UGAdcDhWVEllMzJBSEk# (Links to the other folders, apparently it was taken down from the original drive)

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Translation challenge:

Easy
>No one responded.
>That's how I'd do that
>Tom has written many books
>I might do that, too.
>She has a black puppy.

Medium
>If I don’t like something, I’ll stay away from it.
>Lets all be unique together until we realise we are all the same.
>The shooter says goodbye to his love.
>She borrowed the book from him many years ago and hasn't yet returned it.
>We have never been to Asia, nor have we visited Africa

Hard
>You have to believe that the universe will provide.
>We can remember minutely and precisely only the things which never really happened to us.
>I believe that the first test of a truly great man is his humility. Really great men have a curious feeling that the greatness is not in them but through them. And they see something divine in every other man and are endlessly, incredibly merciful.

I've got a few hours to spare
If anyone here has any questions about the Russian language I'm akk ears.

all ears*

Well I'll do my own challenge as a bump

Niemand hatte geantwortet
So hätte ich es gemacht
Tom hat viele Bücher geschrieben
Vielleicht werde ich das auch tun
Sie hat ein schwarze Hündchen

Wenn ich etwas nicht mag, bleibe ich weg davon
Lass uns alle einzigartig sein, bis wir erkennen, dass wir alle gleich sind
?
Sie hat das Buch vor vielen Jahren von ihm ausgeliehen und hat es noch nicht zurückgegeben
Wir waren noch nie in Asien, wir haben Afrika auch nie besucht

Man muss glauben, dass das Universum dafür sorgen wird
Wir können uns nur [an?] die Dinge erinnern, die wir nie erlebt haben
Ich glaube, dass der erste Test eines wahren großen Mannes seine Demut* ist. Wirklich tolle Männer haben ein neugieriger* gefühl, dass die Größe nicht in ihnen ist, sondern durch sie. Und sie sehen etwas göttlich in jedem anderen Mann und sind endlos, unglaublich* gnädig (Admittedly had to google the asterisk words for this one)

Any advice for working on my German? I'm like B1/B2 in comprehension but my production sucks.

Honestly just keep writing things over and over until you get it right, I just ended up drilling concepts into my head this way

Oh, and after you get it right, write them again the next day

>easy
these aren't easy. what the fuck
>Tom has written many books
Tom hat viele Bücher geschreiben.
>She has a black puppy.
Sie hat ein schwarze Hündchen.
gracious bump

verb of Korean.

How are they not easy?

Was machen alle heute Abend? Ich habe gerade Abend gegessen und höre jetzt Musik.

>REMINDER
duolingo is not good or useful at all and you are just inhibiting your progress with it. Buy a textbook and a frequency dictionary for your language off amazon. Should only run you back about $40, maybe more. Work through the textbook cover to cover.
You can also pirate rosetta stone if you language has it. Most people finish rosetta stone in about 2-3 years if they actually use it. So keep in mind this is a long commitment.

duolingo is quite shit. it shows where their priorities are when you realise the phone app doesn't even offer grammar explanations. absolutely absurd for a language learning app.

100% Agree. Duolingo is absolute normie tier shit for lazy normies who know nothing about language learning.

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More info

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D*Olingo is more a like game or distraction to spend time while waiting, commuting or something. You cant learn a language by playing duolingo while sitting in a bus, it's just impossible

Easy
>No one responded.
誰も答えなかった。
>That's how I'd do that
俺がそういう風にしよう
>Tom has written many books
トムは著作が多い。
>I might do that, too.
俺もしようかも
>She has a black puppy.
彼女は黒い子犬を(一匹)飼ってる

I haven't got time to do the other ones, will probably do them later.

Pretty happy right now. Basically just told my university to fugg off with *gen-ed* class requirements since I’m transferring out in a year. So now I have more time for actual classroom hours for languages.
>Indonesian and Swahili *closer* to English than Finnish or Polish or Icelandic
Is this just because they are spoken by cretins? No Jow Forumsposting intended but..

No, it's because they have very simple non-inflectional grammar.

Cretins it is then

Still harder than English though

And Chinese would rank in about the same spot if it weren't for its writing

Easy
>No one responded.
Nemo respondit.
οὐδεὶς ἀπεkρίνε.
नकिः प्रत्यवदत् (nakih pratyavadat)

>That's how I'd do that
Ita id faciam.
οὕτω τοῦτο πράττω.
ततितक्रियामामि (tatitakriyāmāmi) (unsure whether the potential mood is used here, or optative)

>Tom has written many books
Tom multos libros scripsit.
Θομάς πολλοὺς βίβλους γέγραφεν.
तोमनल्पानिपुस्तकानिलिलिख (tomanalpānipustakānililikha)

>I might do that, too.
Ego etiam id faciam.
kαὶ ἐγὼ τοῦτο πράττω.
अहमेवतत्क्रियामामि (ahamevatatkriyāmāmi) (mood problem here too)

>She has a black puppy.
Catulum nigrum ei est.
kυνίδιον μέλαν ἐστ' αὐτῇ.
तस्या कृष्णः शुनकः (tasyā krishnah shunakah) ('krishna' means 'black')

Medium
>If I don’t like something, I’ll stay away from it.
Si aliquid non amabo, vitabo.
εἰ τ' οὐk φιλῶ, φεύγω.

>Lets all be unique together until we realise we are all the same.
Cuncti singulares simus quamdiu sentimus nos esse aequi.
ἅπαντες ἐξαίροι ὦμεν πρὶν νοεῖν ἵνα ὦμεν ἴσοι.

>The shooter says goodbye to his love.
Projector dicit amorem suum valere.
ὁ τοξότης λέγει ὅτι χαῖρει ἡ τόλμα αὐτοῦ.

>She borrowed the book from him many years ago and hasn't yet returned it.
Longe librum a eo mututatus est, neque adhoc reddit.
πάλαι τὸν βίβλον ἀπὸ αὐτοῦ ἐδανείσατο, οὐkέτι ἀποδέδωkεν.

>We have never been to Asia, nor have we visited Africa
(These two clauses are tautological? Are they not?)
In Asia numquam fuimus, neque visitavimus.
ἐν τῇ Ἀσἰᾳ οὔποτε ἐληλύθαμεν, οὔδε παρὰ ταύτην πεφοιτήkαμεν.

Hard
>You have to believe that the universe will provide.
Credere debes universitas praebiturus esse.
χρὴ πιστεύειν ὅτι ὁ kόσμος παρέξει.

>We can remember minutely and precisely only the things which never really happened to us.
Concise definiteque memorare possumus ea quae de vera numquam facta sunt.
ἀkριβῶς σαφῶς τε μνησθῆναι δυνάμεθα ἃ τῇ ἀληθείᾳ οὔποτε συμβαίνουσιν.

>I believe that the first test of a truly great man is his humility. Really great men have a curious feeling that the greatness is not in them but through them. And they see something divine in every other man and are endlessly, incredibly merciful.
Credo examen primum optimi esse humiditas. Optimi sentiunt magnitudinem inesse non in suis. Aliquid divinitatis in alio videt atque sunt clementissimus sine fine.
πιστεύω τῇ ἀνθρώπου μεγάλου πεῖρᾳ πρώτῃ εἶναι ἡ ταπεινότης. ἀνθρώποις μεγάλοις ἐστ' ἡ γνώμη kαλὴ, ἵνα τὸ μέγεθος ἐν ἑαυτῷ οὐk έστίν, διὰ δὲ ἑαύτου. kαὶ τι θεῖον ἐν ἄλλῳ ἑkάστῳ ὁράουσιν, kαὶ εἰσ' ἀεὶ πρᾶοι.

'Humilitas' for 'humiditas'.

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I believe this is outdated and German is now CAT3 and French is now CAT2

I understand that Spanish is probably the most useful second language for English speakers, but it is so fucking ugly, sounds like shit and is spoken by shithole/irreverent countries.

>I understand that Spanish is probably the most useful second language for English speakers
That's only if you're American or if you're another retarded brit that just wants to jump off balconies on Magaluf.
Actually nevermind you inbred fucks are unable of comprehending a single word so it's only useful for Americans.

soy ingles y puedo hablar espanol lol

nice google translate fag

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Is duo really that bad if I already more or less understand grammar (and Google anything I don't)? Mostly using it for vocabulary and translation exercises. I stopped using it a while ago for the other, more grammatically difficult language that I'm far more proficient in anyway

Grammatically difficult language that I'm learning and far more proficient in*

Not for Britons. European Spanish is pointless.

Although the answer to this depends on your definition of 'most useful'.

I heard using translated versions of Harry Potter is a good way to learn a language.
>It is a kids book with simple sentences and vocab.
>Still pretty interesting (More interesting than boring fucking exercise books).
>Has a huge range of professionally translated editions, so you can pretty much always get an edition in your lang and your target lang.
>You read abit, learn any vocab you don't know, learn any grammar that confuses you.
>Check your understanding of the target language version compared to your language.
>Repeat until you are at the end of the chapter.
>Try reading a whole chapter.
>Continue until you can read and understand the whole book.
>The books vocabulary and themes get more complex as the books go on, following your language progression.

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You two gonna kiss or what

아무도 응답하지 않았다.
저는 그것을 그렇게 할 거예요 (??)
톰은 책을 많이 썼다 (많은 책을 썼다?)
아마 그것도 할 게요 / 그것도 할 거 같아. ?
그녀는 검은 강아지가 있다

저는 뭔가 안 좋아하면 그것을 멀리해요

duo is not that bad, you just do not rely only on duo.

Nah I'd be a mess if I only used duo. I am finding a lack of things to translate without answers though