Made in west germany

East had to build a wall because the west kept stealing their shit.
But you're right about West germany = India

My bad
Never said that but ok

They wanted East Berlin with it's soul. Now Berlin is best and underground city, thanks to soviets.

I went there, it stunk because of the 2 cycle Trabant engines.

I guess i can understand where youre coming from since there are a billion of you, but the nationstate should look out for its nation above making money

>Wasn't the east a complete shithole in front of west?

Actually the difference wasn't that big like people think. Sure, East Germans didn't have easy access to western goods, but by the same logic, west Germans couldn't buy eastern goods easily either. And many east German products were of higher quality than their western counterparts, like Carl Zeiss objectives, Praktica photo cameras etc.

I guess. Tho many people like to get all weepy and sentimental over partition, deep down most of us realize it was a boon in disguise
Even if that being the case, the west being capitalist could easily get access to what it was lacking from other nations unlike the socialist east. Plus the difference in infrastructure is visible to this day

>Even if that being the case, the west being capitalist could easily get access to what it was lacking from other nations unlike the socialist east.

Like what? The socialist east traded with all the non-NATO world as well. Countries like Finland had a bigger share of their export to the USSR than to any western country.

> Plus the difference in infrastructure is visible to this day

Yes, but it's not as big as some people imagine it to be. It was more like North and South Italy, while people think it was something like North and South Korea.

>I guess. Tho many people like to get all weepy and sentimental over partition, deep down most of us realize it was a boon in disguise

>implying that there is a difference between India and Pakistan in terms of economy or living standard

Well US, UK and most of west Europe had a far bigger market than the east ,which in turn benefitted both the consumer and the business. The large amount of potential consumers benefitted business and the flourishing competition benefitted the consumer. The socialist nations under the lagging "leadership" of the government, which already had absolute control , couldn't be bothered with the well being of the people and their quality of life. There was no incentive for them to create quality goods, doing just enough so that the citizens didn't die was their only concern.
>it's not as big as some people imagine it to be
I've a pen pal who grew up in east and now lives in west. The tales he told me depict a magnitude of difference

There is a visible difference between the economy, living standard, individual freedom, democracy etc. I mean Pakistan is literally an islamic dictatorship. But that wasn't what I was talking about. I meant that if the country hadn't divided, the muslims would have kept on rioting until every non-muslim was dead which in turn would cause the non muslims to react, leading to the streets filled with thousands of corpses of these "brothers"

>Well US, UK and most of west Europe had a far bigger market than the east ,which in turn benefitted both the consumer and the business. The large amount of potential consumers benefitted business and the flourishing competition benefitted the consumer. The socialist nations under the lagging "leadership" of the government, which already had absolute control , couldn't be bothered with the well being of the people and their quality of life. There was no incentive for them to create quality goods, doing just enough so that the citizens didn't die was their only concern.

But what I meant was that the "socialist market" was not limited to socialist countries only. Comecon countries traded with non-communist countries as well. Most of African, Asian, and a large number of Latin American countries were actually leaning towards socialism and therefore, happily traded with the USSR and its satellite states.

> There was no incentive for them to create quality goods

I wonder how come state-owned Renault or Volkswagen produced good cars then.

>There is a visible difference between the economy, living standard, individual freedom, democracy etc.

Indian propaganda. India and Pakistan are essentially the same - a majority of people live in shit, while few people are the upper castes and live well.

>I mean Pakistan is literally an islamic dictatorship

How does affect peoples' lives? Does it change anything if you get stoned to death for eating pork or beef?

>I meant that if the country hadn't divided, the muslims would have kept on rioting until every non-muslim was dead which in turn would cause the non muslims to react, leading to the streets filled with thousands of corpses of these "brothers"

But it wasn't the case in Germany, both west and east Germany were inhabited by the same people, with the same language, culture, religion etc., the only difference was the political and economic system.

>I wonder how come state-owned Renault or Volkswagen produced good cars then.
Because national socialism actually worked. It's aim was to empower the ethnic germans whereas the goal of socialism was to create an equality of wealth
>Indian propaganda
Not really. You have statistics and data to back me up.
>How does it affect people's lives
Are you for real? You don't have an ounce of freedom. You are compelled to obey any order forced upon you no matter how inconsiderate if the army demands it. Your voice is silent. Justice will never get delivered to you. You're forced to swallow up propaganda without any protest. Free thoughts are of no value. You're practically a slave in disguise. Better to die than live such a disgusting life. I could probably go on
>only difference
Same is for north and south Korea but they don't seem to have any plans to reuniteThely difference between Indians and Pakistanis was their religion-just a man-made cult! Difference in politics is enough to cause difference in the local culture and mindsets. On top of it, west germany didn't have anything to gain at all. Moreover they existed separately for over 40 years which is roughly 2 generations, enough to create a separate identity

Moreover they existed separately for over 40 years which is roughly 2 generations, enough to create a separate identity
Lol no

>Because national socialism actually worked.

But the economic system in most of commie countries was exactly national socialism. Countries like DDR, Poland or Romania were extremely nationalist, despite being economically communist. This is not a coincidence, that the biggest share of votes for the nat-soc party in Germany is cast in east German lands.

>Not really. You have statistics and data to back me up.

India has higher GDP per capita, but slightly, definitely not that much to claim the difference is that big.

> You don't have an ounce of freedom.

In India you can be raped by a horde of horny pajeets just because you're a lone woman travelling around, that's freedom you're talking about? Maybe Pakistan has strict laws, but at least they have laws and obey them.

>Same is for north and south Korea but they don't seem to have any plans to reunite

Because the difference between South and North Korea is magnitudes bigger than between West and East Germany. You can find videos from east Germany from the late 1980s or early 1990s on YT, sure it does look "poor" by western European standards, but still it's way, way more developed than India will ever be and not comparable to North Korea.

>Moreover they existed separately for over 40 years which is roughly 2 generations, enough to create a separate identity

First of all, East Germany never tried to create any separate identity. They claimed THEY are the true Germans, Germans without fascist inclinations (as they were deemed to be a result of capitalism), successors of glorious German culture, Luther's, Goethe's and Einstein's heritage. No one ever tried to create anything like the "East German" nation or identity, East Germany was considered a temporary state by the East German government itself, as they hoped Germany will be reunited, under the red banner of course.