>What language are you learning? >Share language learning experiences! >Help people who want to learn a new language! >Find people to train your language with!
Learning resources: First and foremost check the Jow Forums Wiki. (feel free to contribuite
Easy >No one responded. >That's how I'd do that >Tom has written many books >I might do that, too. >She has a black puppy.
Medium >If I don’t like something, I’ll stay away from it. >Lets all be unique together until we realise we are all the same. >The shooter says goodbye to his love. >She borrowed the book from him many years ago and hasn't yet returned it. >We have never been to Asia, nor have we visited Africa
Hard >You have to believe that the universe will provide. >We can remember minutely and precisely only the things which never really happened to us. >I believe that the first test of a truly great man is his humility. Really great men have a curious feeling that the greatness is not in them but through them. And they see something divine in every other man and are endlessly, incredibly merciful.
Sebastian James
Reminder the Discord and Telegram killed this.
Sebastian Garcia
No, people wanting to fellate each other rather than discuss/learn languages did
Robert Rodriguez
Also from last thread
Niemand hatte geantwortet So hätte ich es gemacht Tom hat viele Bücher geschrieben Vielleicht werde ich das auch tun Sie hat ein schwarze Hündchen
Wenn ich etwas nicht mag, bleibe ich weg davon Lass uns alle einzigartig sein, bis wir erkennen, dass wir alle gleich sind ? Sie hat das Buch vor vielen Jahren von ihm ausgeliehen und hat es noch nicht zurückgegeben Wir waren noch nie in Asien, wir haben Afrika auch nie besucht
Man muss glauben, dass das Universum dafür sorgen wird Wir können uns nur [an?] die Dinge erinnern, die wir nie erlebt haben Ich glaube, dass der erste Test eines wahren großen Mannes seine Demut* ist. Wirklich tolle Männer haben ein neugieriger* gefühl, dass die Größe nicht in ihnen ist, sondern durch sie. Und sie sehen etwas göttlich in jedem anderen Mann und sind endlos, unglaublich* gnädig (Admittedly had to google the asterisk words for this one)
Isaiah Howard
[spoiler]help me[/spoiler]
Jace Foster
With
Liam Williams
Reminder that the wiki needs more work
Adrian Murphy
>>What language are you learning? Japanese.
>>Share language learning experiences! Reading about grammar does absolutely nothing. I saw zero results until I got away from grammar guides, vocab lists, etc. and actually started reading content intended for adult native speakers in Japanese.
>>Help people who want to learn a new language! See above.
>>Find people to train your language with! No thanks.
Jeremiah Garcia
It needs completely re-writing.
>[some copypasta from wikipedia] >use duolingo, pimsleur and rosetta stone! Even reddit probably has better language learning guides than this.
Zachary Reyes
Please elaborate, what kind of structure would you like instead?
Brayden Rivera
Gave the easy ones a shot:
>No one responded. 아무도나 답장하지 않습니다. >That's how I'd do that 그 것을 이렇게 할 거예요. (???) >Tom has written many books 토므 씨는 많이 책을 썼었습니다. >I might do that, too 저도 할 수도 있습니다. or 저도 하겠습니다. (not sure) >She has a black puppy. 그녀는 까만 강아지를 있습니다.
I don't have the vocab to do all the medium ones, although I might have the grammar down.
Cooper Howard
It should just link people to a decent (free, online) guide covering the very basics of the language then tell them to go read and listen to stuff for adult native speakers in the language after that, with some sort of note explaining that, yes, it's supposed to be difficult at first, and no, they won't be fluent in 3 months.
It could also provide links to useful tools which make reading and listening easier (e.g. the Yomichan browser add-on in the case of Japanese).
Fuck textbooks, Duolingo and all that other waste of time bullshit.
Medium >何か気に入らないのなら、避けるようにする。 >俺らは、同じだと気づくまで一緒にユニークだとしていこう。 >シューターは恋人にさようならを言う。 >彼女は数年前に彼から本を借りて、まだ返していない。 >俺たちはアジアもアフリカにも行ったことがない。
Hard >宇宙が備えてくれると信じなきゃ。 >俺らは、実際に起こられていないことしか細かくきちんと覚えられない。 >俺は、本当な偉人の最初の試練が謙遜だと思う。本当な偉人は偉さが中にあるというより、偉さが中を通るという不思議な気持ちを持つ。彼らは、他人の善良が分かって、それも果てなく見事に情けをかけるものだ。
>Nikt nie odpowiedział >W ten sposób zrobiłbym to >Tom napisał wiele książki >Mogę zrobić to też >Ona ma czarne szczenię
>Jeśli coś nie lubię, będę się trzymał z dala od tego >Bądźmy wszyscy wyjątkowych razem, aż do zdamy sobie sprawę, że jesteśmy wszyscy tacy sami >Strzelec się żegna z swoim kochaniem >Ona pożyczyła książkę od niego wiele lat temu, i jeszcze nie jej zwróciła >Nigdy nie byliśmy w Azji, a też nie odwiedziliśmy Afrykę
David Hughes
It basically adds a built in dictionary to the browser. Rather than having to copy-paste/type out words into a dictionary, you just hover over them instead.
You can convert ebooks to HTML format and read them in your browser. You can also hook text from things like games and visual novels into your browser.
Zachary Lopez
That’s not a replacement for a textbook
Isaiah Bell
You don't need textbooks, that's the point.
Parker Richardson
Yes you fucking do. Even people who have lived in Japan for 5 years still study out of their textbook to get better.
Nathaniel Phillips
>not having textbooks
so what happens when your electronic devices die? You have nothing. Besides even that, you should always have textbooks. I have one for Lithuanian, Polish, Russian and Hungarian and they are pretty invaluable and reference mats are always welcome.
Landon Collins
Luddites pls
Ryan Sanchez
>You need textbooks because people who use textbooks are still so shit at Japanese after 5 years of using textbooks that they still need textbooks.
Imagine living a life with no backup plan in case any of your worldly electronic devices break down.
Jaxon Kelly
>pull it up on another device Wow that was hard
Cameron Roberts
>that device breaks down
let us not continue this.
Jonathan Harris
Then stop with your /x/-tier hypothetical garbage
Michael Watson
And are you fluent in anything? Yeah thought not
Jeremiah Young
better with they hypothetical shit that decide 'it is definitely a good idea to go completely digital and not have any traditional resources for what I actually have an interest in; textbooks are trash'.
Mason Reed
Hey guys I’m thinking about spending 2200 hours of my life to learn a language do you think I should get a textbook for $20 or just install some weeaboo’s browser extension?
Brandon Jenkins
Are you?
All I know is I wasted a shitload of time reading textbooks and other grammar resources, thinking that was the way to learn languages, and I got nowhere. I still couldn't even read basic shit for kids. Then I threw the textbooks away, didn't even use them as a reference, and just decided to start reading native content for adults. It was brutally hard at first but now I can understand a lot and have been able to have conversations online with natives every once in a while, no thanks to any fucking textbook or grammar resource.
Hudson Martinez
We get it, you're a moron afraid of technology because you don't understand it
Anybody here learning Icelandic? Ég er að læra íslensku. Ég veit, íslenska er meme tungumál. Hún er enn þá mjög gott!
Zachary Gomez
Loud yelling of stupid opinions like the rest of Jow Forums
John Ward
Easy >Nadie respondió >Eso es como yo lo haría >Tom ha escrito muchos libros >También puedo hacerlo >Ella tiene un perrito negro
Medium >Si algo no me gusta, lo evitaré. >Seamos únicos juntos hasta nos dimos cuenta que somos todos mismos. >El tirador dijo adiós a su amor. >Ella pidió el libro prestado a él hace muchos años, y aún no lo ha devuelto. >Nunca hemos estado en Asia, ni hemos visitado África
Hard >Tienes que creer que el universo proveerá >Podemos recordar minuciosamente y precisamente solo las cosas que a nos no pasaron realmente. >Creo que la primera prueba de un hombre verdaderamente gran es de su humildad. Los hombres que son gran en verdad tienen la sensación curiosa de que la grandeza no está dentro de ellos, sino pasa por ellos. Y ellos ven algo divino en todos los otros hombres y ellos son interminablemente, increíblemente compasivos.
be harsh
Xavier King
>be harsh You're a fucking cunt and I hate your ass, you useless piece of shit.
Logan Ramirez
Reading in your target language with assistance is probably the single best thing you can do. However you can read for a long time and not really understand certain things. And that's when peaking in a textbook and, for example, looking up what reflexive verbs are becomes valuable.
Blake Turner
Just google that shit, senpai
Ayden Ortiz
a grammar resource is exactly that, a resource. it's there for you to REFER to, not rely on. of course you're not going to be able to read a grammar textbook and then understand the language just from that. you can't study a language that way. you have to use it, converse with and learn from other people and gradually decipher the patterns and try to predict the proper way to arrange everything through a shit ton of exposure.
for example, you could learn all the verb conjugations of a language inside and out, but you're never going to get a sense of how they actually work without actually using them, seeing them in use, and fucking up a ton. but a grammar textbook is still important because it explains logic behind those patterns, thereby informing your efforts in learning how to recognize them and use the language properly. obviously you're going to learn mostly from actually using the language, but a grammar textbook is there to explain the reasoning behind the patterns you uncover so you don't keep making the same basic mistakes forever. it's the foundation of your developing internal structure of the langauge.
basically you compare what you learn through exposure with the information laid out in the grammar reference to make sure you're on track
Dylan Richardson
>hate your ass Sounds hot desu
Andrew Jones
Hatefuck best fuck tbqh
Easton Moore
Ich möchte ein Eisbär sein Im kalten Polar (bump)
Jackson Fisher
>learning Spanish, so I try to read through /lat/ threads are other generals this bad?
Samuel Brown
/deutsch/ is full of nazi garbage half the time
Angel Wright
>Eso es como yo lo haría Así es como lo haría >También puedo hacerlo Podría hacerlo también >Seamos únicos juntos hasta nos dimos cuenta que somos todos mismos. Seamos todos únicos juntos hasta que nos demos cuenta que somos todos lo mismo. >Creo que la primera prueba de un hombre verdaderamente gran es de su humildad. Los hombres que son gran en verdad tienen la sensación curiosa de que la grandeza no está dentro de ellos, sino pasa por ellos. Y ellos ven algo divino en todos los otros hombres y ellos son interminablemente, increíblemente compasivos. Creo que la primera prueba de un hombre verdaderamente grande es su humildad. Los hombres realmente grandes tienen una curiosa sensación de que la grandeza no esta en ellos si no que a través de ellos. Y ven algo divino en cada otro hombre y son infinitamente, increíblemente compasivos.
Jeremiah Carter
thank you senpai my dictionary says that "sino" is the equivalent of but/rather in "not x, but (rather) y" is it always preferable to write it as two words like "si no"? is there a better phrasing?
Samuel Thompson
>insane >20 minutes a day FUCKING NORMIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Parker Fisher
Ich möchte. Findest du es schwer?
Hudson Thompson
Seems like it would be fun to learn but damn... only 300,000 native speakers who all speak perfect English lol.
Isaiah Myers
Yeah. Would be useful if you wanted you learn and move to their ethnostate until you realize Icelandic women are huge materialistic whores (see: Rich pianas gf). I’d rather move to Eastern Europe
John Wright
when you can't decide if 大魔王 should be translated as
ο Μέγας Άρχοντας του Καkού (I'm gravitating towards this one) or ο Μεγάλος Άρχοντας του Καkού (not fancy enough?) or ο Μέγας Άρχων του Καkού (too fancy/katharevousa?) or ο Μεγάλος Άρχων του Καkού (okay this one sounds kinda shit desu)
>greek weeaboo God I wish the Turks would just throw you rape babies out of europe already InshaAllah
Joshua Wright
live and let live mate :)
Joshua Watson
Shes asking if you have a big dick Which you dont Shes a size queen whore Unsurprising, because all women on dating apps are dog whores And you are a dog too Why dont you go behind the shed so somebody can shoot out your brains, you commit zina.
Nolan Long
Thanks. I ended up finding that out. It was weird because at first google translate was translating it as "do you have a big bite" which confused me, but it fixed when I reloaded the page.
Jack White
Also Swedish
Ingen svarade Så skulle jag göre det Tom skrev många böcker Kanske gör jag det också Hon har en svar valp
Om jag inte gillar något, håller jag mig borta från det
Hit me up with the discord and telegram And no, they didnt kill it, anything requiring people to work is gonna be unpopular, it's why Jow Forums is 90% shitposting
>Kanske gör jag det också Jag kanske gör det också. >Hon har en svar valp Hon har en svart valp. (Although I assume this is a typo.)
Jonathan Price
Does anyone need help with cyka blyad?
Ryder Lewis
/lat/ has its own category of crapness but yeah they are
Jack Davis
>Easy >>No one responded. Nessuno ha risposto >>That's how I'd do that Questo è come lo farei. >>Tom has written many books Tom ha scritto molti libri >>I might do that, too. Lo farei >>She has a black puppy. lei ha un cucciolo nero
Nicholas Ramirez
oh I see, Bad Malente is a place
Lincoln Clark
Hello
Nathan Miller
bump
Caleb Cook
Spanish Easy Nadie respondió Yo lo haría así Quizás yo lo haga también Ella tiene un cachorrito negro
Si no me gusta algo lo evito Seamos únicos juntos hasta que nos demos cuenta de que somos todos lo mismo Ella le pidió prestado el libro hace muchos años y aún no le ha devuelto Nunca hemos ido a Asia, ni hemos visitado África
Hard Tienes que creer que el universo proveerá Recordamos minuciosa y precisamente sólo las cosas que nunca nos ocurrieron.
Not trying the last one it seems kind of dumb desu.
French
Easy
Personne n'a repondu Je le ferais comme ça Tom a écrit beaucoup de livres. Peut-être je le ferais aussi. Elle a un chiot noir
Medium Si je n'aime pas quelque chose je l'evite Soyons uniques ensembles jusqu'à nous nous rendons compte que nous sommes le même. Le tireur dit adieu à son amour Elle lui a emprunté le livre il y a plusieres d'années et elle ne le lui a pas encore rendu
That's my stab at it. Also: you're not supposed to use a dictionary with these right? I don't quite see the point if you're allowed to use one.
Und wenn Sie nun versuchen in der Gesellschaft, Jungen, Ihre eigenen Weg zu finden, werden Sie einst feststellen: die Schulzeit ist die schönstest Zeit Ihres Lebens gewesen.
Julian Brown
is there a discord? I don't really fuck with Telegram
Liam Gray
>Tom skrev många böcker. Tom har skrivit många böcker.
>Nikt nie odpowiedział correct >W ten sposób zrobiłbym to correct, but 'zrobiłbym to w ten sposób' would be more natural >Tom napisał wiele książki tom napisał wiele książek >Mogę zrobić to też correct >Ona ma czarne szczenię correct, but i'd say ona ma czarnego szczeniaka, szczenię sounds very zoological or formal
>Jeśli coś nie lubię, będę się trzymał z dala od tego Jeśli czegoś nie lubię, będę się trzymał z dala od tego >Bądźmy wszyscy wyjątkowych razem, aż do zdamy sobie sprawę, że jesteśmy wszyscy tacy sami bądźmy wszyscy wyjątkowi razem, aż zdamy sobie sprawę, że jesteśmy wszyscy tacy sami >Strzelec się żegna z swoim kochaniem i guess it would be correct in some very strange context, but if the 'love' meant a girl then it would be 'ze swoją ukochaną' >Ona pożyczyła książkę od niego wiele lat temu, i jeszcze nie jej zwróciła ona pożyczyła książkę od niego wiele lat temu i jeszcze jej nie zwróciła >Nigdy nie byliśmy w Azji, a też nie odwiedziliśmy Afrykę nigdy nie byliśmy w Azji, ani też nie odwiedziliśmy Afryki
Ian James
>tom napisał wiele książek Is it the wiele that makes it so I have to use the dopełniacz? >bądźmy wszyscy wyjątkowi razem, aż zdamy sobie sprawę, że jesteśmy wszyscy tacy sami What's the difference between aż and aż do exactly? Trying to look it up didn't help much.
Thanks for the corrections user, I appreciate them.
Carson Lee
bump slow day today
Colton Morris
shitpost
Aiden Ramirez
/lit/ too
Levi King
>Is it the wiele that makes it so I have to use the dopełniacz? Pretty much, yes. Napisał wiele - wiele czego? - wiele książek. Same thing happens with other measure words like dużo, mało, trochę etc. >What's the difference between aż and aż do exactly? Trying to look it up didn't help much. "Aż do" is just a collocation of "aż". Write the "do" when you're using "aż" before a noun, drop it when it's followed by anything else.
Medium: > 만약 걸 싫어할 때문에 그에 말게 머무를 거예요. > 우리는 우리가 똑같인 것을 생각해 전까지 우리는 같이 독특하게있자. (잡시오?) > 테러리스트는 그의 사랑한 사람에게 '우리 다시 만날 때' 이라 말습니다. > 많이 년 전에 그녀는 그에게서 책을 빌리며 가져오지 않아요. > 우리는 한번도 아시아과 아프리카도 안 봤어요.
