Why do countries even need borders?

Safety

INS did before 2003 what ICE does now.

Regardless, this is a waste of time. This is a fringe position that only Democrat politicians in the bluest of states/districts will take, no Republicans or red/purple state/district Democrats will jump on-board this, and neither will the American people anywhere. This is basically the Left's version of "abolish the IRS," except I bet abolishing the IRS would get more votes in Congress tonight than abolishing ICE.

They don't as long as those moving around are young, fertile women.

It's as fucked up as other government organizations. My point was that claiming that we didn't have an immigration enforcement agency before 2003 is demonstrably false

>democrats response to the 2016 election is to take one of the hardest swings left in american history
How do they plan on winning the next election if they polarize all the moderates?

>MUH MODERATES
Who else are they going to vote for? Republicans who are the party of Trump?
They'll sit this one out.

I.C.E. officials themselves have called for its dissolution, or at least a focus on national concerns that actually matter.

>moderate republican
no such thing

>I.C.E. officials themselves have called for its dissolution
16 out of thousands so far according to the news, cnn etc.
> at least a focus on national concerns that actually matter.
borders don't matter?

>this birch
It makes me reee, she literally is reinforcing the "those dang catholic latinos are socialists" and just make us look like cucks.

A lot of them sat out the last election too. I suspect even more will in 2020. Hell, even some of the hardcore people that they're currently trying to pander to will abstain because the next Democratic candidate won't have enough of a hardline agenda

Moderate democrats, not republicans

>I.C.E. officials themselves have called for its dissolution

Yeah, I bet. How many out of how many?

Bitch*

It's not just her though. Democrats are giddy at the idea that maybe the 100,000 or whatever Puerto Ricans that came to Florida following 2017's Hurricane Maria will benefit them in the Senate and gubernatorial races there this November.

Will she be the first Hispanic President of the United States?

It's almost funny how lefties are so worried about Russian trolls affecting our election, but actually importing voters is just fine, this is also why they love immigrants so much, they vote for free shit.

but you are a cuck

If she is, our countries might as well become one country.

Puerto Ricans are US citizens and you can blame them fleeing the island for the mainland on the Trump administration's shitty handling of hurricane relief for the island

They aren't actually worried about Russian intervention, they just use it to undermine the current president. Same way conservatives jumped on Obama's birth certificate
The thing to remember with politicians is that they don't have a problem with contradicting themselves. They will attack someone for doing something and then do the exact same thing themselves if they think they can get away with it

We should sell Puerto Rico.

>you can blame them fleeing the island for the mainland
You are right

>Will she be the first Hispanic President of the United States?

No.

She got 15,000-something votes, she literally won as an anomaly of abysmal turnout in that district. It was literally like 5% turnout. If New York had California's blanket primary system, Crowley would have another crack at her in the general election in November, and I bet he'd crush her then. Too bad for him.

>Same way conservatives jumped on Obama's birth certificate

The losers always have the most conspiracy theories

>Trump administration's shitty handling of hurricane relief for the island
has anyone ever handled a hurricane well?

>american politics

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If the dems ever win the open borders debate, we'll probably need to start taxing foreigners in other countries to pay for the influx of migrants.

>tariffs on immigrants imported from mexico
SOMEONE MAKE IT HAPPEN

To be fair, a post-Obama swing to the right ended up working for the Republicans, surprisingly.

>or at least a focus on national concerns that actually matter.

i.e., leave the illegals alone, you big bullies!

>tfw the Democratic party will finally go back to its left wing roots in my lifetime

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Collect taxes. Bouncer.

if america were communist it'd be like the best thing ever

have yall ever seen star trek? shits dope

not even memeing but borders in the nationalistic sense is a giant meme forced on us just like the nation-state.
Why can't we just have zones of influence based on which feudal lord has the power like before? also 100% free trade

Because feudalism is even worse than capitalism.

Obama, Clinton, bush Sr.

communists are internationalists that don't believe in national sovereignty or nations. that isn't a good recipe for peace with a military like ours. they'd basically use maxist doctrine as casus belli to annex every country in the world.

>annex
Dumbass, even Trotsky and Lenin spoke out against that

this to be honest
can't blame the dems for seeing if trying swinging to the left will work out for them as swinging to the right did for republicans

half the voting population doesn't even vote in this country anyway, and in some districts turnout is even more abysmal.
I wonder if what matters more nowadays is riling up voters or energizing voters than trying to appeal to as many people as possible

She's 100% right though.
Every single three letter agency should be disbanded. They're all unconstitutional.

>communists are internationalists that don't believe in national sovereignty or nations
Not at all. Communists strongly support the right of nations to self determinations. Hundreds of nationalist movements during the past two centuries have had communist support. Communism and nationalism intersect and there is a wide variety of opinions on the topic from the different marxist schools of thought.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Question

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>casus belli to annex every country in the world
You mean just like american imperialism and exporting ""democracy""?

i can't speak for clinton or bush sr, but obama had an easier time of it than either bush or trump
trump has had three massive hurricanes, all but one more damaging than sandy, and bush had fucking katrina
it seems more like bad luck than poor handling to me

>he is not an accelerationist
Let it all burn!

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Why should your house have a barrier to entry?

>left wing roots

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no. instead of going to war and leaving after, we'd annex countries cause fuck having borders and nations and sheeit.